Joe Tilley

Since Outer space is such a hot topic here.

I was just wondering since Outer space seams to be such a hot topic here I thought I'd ask. First off I find myself very curious on the topic of space & what is or could be out there. But why is it that for the billions we spend on space exploration for things that we will most likeley never benefit from in our lifetimes, do they not look closer at the things that could make a difference? What I mean is there are so many things about our world we know nothing about or things we do know about but do nothing. Like for example if we can build a space shuttle to go to Mars & take pictures, than why cant we build something that can find the deepest parts of our ocean's & take pictures. instead of looking for life somewhere else that is so hard to reach, discover the life here that we still have not found.
At the same time I can somewhat understand why so many feel it's important to explore space, & why we do it. And it is something very interesting to me, but sometimes I think its just a big waste to spend millions to build something to take a few pictures of somewhere we will most likely neve go. Granted we will also probley never go to the deepest depths here on earth, but wouldn't it be just as cool to know just whats down there? I think of it kinda like space as well. Everyone hopes to find the answer to time like a warm hole in space, or another planet where there is life like us. But really think what if somewhere down below us is what we have been looking for all along. What if we found the center of the earth is a big worm hole? What if we found a definite answer to (why we are here) just below our feet. I guess it can be argued either way as the answer could be out there as well. But why not look closer at home.
All the time divers are going deeper & deeper & still finding life, & very interesting life at that. But what have we found in space so far other than more rocks? Sure space is a MUCH larger place to look around & there may just be something just one more step out. But why keep pushing so hard to find nothing (in terms of life) when we could dive deeper & see more life here?
I hope no one gets carried away with this because I know quite a few people here are into space exploration, & like I said I think it's really cool to. But I just cant help but wonder why we don't look closer to home a little more?

Mike Wladyka

do you think that Galileo, Archimedes, Da Vinci, etc, shouldn't have investigated their respected fields, just because they wouldn't see the unlimited benefits that we see from there work...how about the guys before them? i think you can see where i am going...

it is, and always will be important to look the future. who knows what the stuff we are finding out now, will be used for in the future...

edit: there is a lot people looking in matters here on earth

Now they show you how detergents take out bloodstains, a pretty violent image there. I think if you\'ve got a T-shirt with a bloodstain all over it, maybe laundry isn\'t your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash.

Chris

Oh, quite contraire.

Without the space program of the 1960s, you'd lose far more then "tang".. in fact, a lot of developments that came out of that make major changes in our industries..

You know, little things like:

Microprocessors (computers anyone?)
Solid-fill capacitors (circuit boards)
Compressed metals cars..
GPS
Cellular phones
digital TV


The list is enormous of things that were invented for, or by, the existence of a space program.

Right now, other countries are SERIOUSLY outspending us in the space field, with China leading the way with a planned moon-base by 2019, for full factory useage.

Sound goofy? Not really.. as the needs of R&D for microprocessor companies grows, the existance of a contaminate free, low gravity environment would play significant benefits in the development of future chip technologies, which help drive multiple industries.

The exploration of space is part about science, the expansion of our presence in the universe, but it is also about moving us forward here with scientific developments that help our industries.

Seriously, whoever manages to start using the moon first for actual R&D development in a full-scale way will have a fairly significant technological advantage in many economic sectors..

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Francois Caron

Space exploration doesn't even have to be all that expensive if you have the proper equipment. Look at the X-Prize contestants and the accomplishments they've made before they've even launched anyone into space. All this is being funded by individuals and private companies.

Another milestone in this planet's history is aviation. In 100 years, we went from a perilous 12 second flight a few feet of the ground to the ability to travel to any part of the world in a few hours. In fact, that ability was accomplished in under 60 years! Many people were alive throughout the entire event, some people still alive even today.

All these advances exist because we as a species simply can't stay still for a minute without getting restless. We must move around! We must travel! Even individuals who don't travel all that much can still enjoy the offerings of other nations just by watching one of the many travel channels on the air. So it's only natural that we would want to travel to an environment as hostile as deep space. We know we can accomplish it at reasonable cost. We just have to figure out how to do it.

Arthur C. Clarke wrote a story many decades ago called "The Fountains of Paradise" where he had the idea of a "space elevator", essentially a vehicle track that runs from the planet surface to a satellite in geostationary orbit around the earth. When asked when such an elevator would be designed and built, Clarke said "about ten years after everyone stops laughing."

We stopped laughing a few years ago. Designs are already being proposed on how to build it.

DanielKellmii

In the past, I have worked on the the Shuttle Turbopumps and some rocket stuff that ended up not going anywhere. I learned a few things about the "need" for these programs.
They create good jobs, lots of them.
Billions of dollars are not thrown into space. It is throw into Congressional Districts.
They show the world technical capabilities.
China doesn't care about the moon. What they care about is showing that they can make highly complicated equipment and that you should buy it from them. What company is going to buy an airplane from China? None. But after a few decades of development and some examples of their capabilities there might be a new competitor in the marketplace.
It keeps engineering technology current new ideas are transferable to the millitary.

It is just a huge governmental program that redistributes the wealth and occasionally creates a viable commercial product. Workfare for the educated is just one of the nicer names that has been attached to it. This can also be applied to most high-cost millitary projects. Comanche anyone????

Andrew Testa

Daniel,

Yeah, but it's paying for my midget porn collection. Thank you taxpayers!

Joe,

more seriously, think of any scientific endeavor. You need several data points to learn about whatever it is you study. Earth is but one data point in our understanding of how planetary geology and ecosystems work and evolve. By learning about how these systems work on other planets, we increase our understanding of how the Earth works. The more we know about more planets, the better our understanding of Earth and it's future. And if the extrasolar planet studies ever find anoth planet with an ecosystem, we'd have an enormous opportunity to understand Earth better by understanding a smimilar world under different conditions. Everything that is learned is applicable to knowledge of our own planet.

Andy

DanielKellmii

Thanks for the smile, that was pretty funny.

ChuckSolo

I for one support the space program because I for one want to know, in my lifetime hopfully, if we are indeed the only ones living in the universe. The mathematical probability of there being life on other planets is to huge to think that we are alone. Sooner or later, and maybe NOT in my lifetime, we are bound to make first contact.

Patrick Sun

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