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12-18-2003, 06:23 PM
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Need help on LotR-based Term Paper
I'm writing a term paper about how the theme of "everything has it's purpose, whether for good or evil" is prevalent in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. I need some good quotes from all 3 books (not The Hobbit/Silmarillion/etc., only the trilogy) that illustrate this point. I have some already (such as the part where Frodo wishes death upon Gollum and Gandalf says he still has a part to play in everything and Elrond's comments about the Hobbits near the end of the council). Does anybody know of a site that would be helpful or know any quotes themselves? I just need the Book # (if you've read the books, you know what I mean) and chapter.
Thanks in advance.
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12-18-2003, 07:13 PM
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Um... I hate to call you on this, but if you're going to cite something, it's generally a good idea to read it yourself. Very often quote snippits are taken out of context and you will get called to the carpet for misquoting a passage, especially of a well-known document like LotR.
Sorry to threadcrap.
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12-19-2003, 11:09 PM
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I have read the books (within the last couple of years, actually) but I don't have the spare time to read through them again. I've been able to actually find a few good quotes online and then search for them in the books, and when I find them they DO refer to what I'm trying to research.
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12-20-2003, 04:18 AM
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Morgan, a good start would be to punctuate 'its' correctly.
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12-20-2003, 10:47 AM
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As preparation for college, have the St. Martin's Handbook ready. It helps a shit load.
Reread "parts" of the book. If you're teacher's any good, he/she will have a lot of skepticism from website stuff.
Otherwise, just drive down to a chain book store and hang around the philosophy/myth section of the book store. That should assist in some of the finer points.
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12-20-2003, 01:31 PM
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All I need to do is find quotes from the trilogy. I own the books, but between all the other work I have to do right now, I don't have the time to reread them. I've found some quotes online, but I always verify them and have to be able to correctly cite them (by page number, which is specific to my copies of the books). So its not like I'm just getting random quotes and writing them down, I AM checking to see if they're in the books, if they relate enough to my topic, and if they are useable for my paper.
And the quotes I'm looking for have to come from the Lord of the Rings books, not outside books. We're writing a term paper about how a theme of our choice is prevalent through 3 different books (those books can be in a trilogy, by the same author, by different authors, whatever). We then have to find literary criticisms of the books and use those as sources to back up the topic of our papers (I already have some criticisms).
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12-21-2003, 12:50 AM
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Ok, I'm going to threadcrap and say that this is incredibly lazy - as lazy as plagiarizing, but not as unethical. You're essentially asking other people to do your research for you. It's one thing not to have time to reread a text, but if you're not familiar enough with the text to quickly finds quotes in it, you shouldn't be writing about it.
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12-21-2003, 01:34 AM
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Morgan,
I just want to say that you're going to have to find the time to re-read the books. Plain and simple. Yes, you can take the easy way out and get others to do the hard work for you, but that defeats the whole purpose of doing an assignment.
Suck it up, re-read the books, complete the assignment, and you'll feel a lot better about your work and about yourself.
Sorry to get all preachy on you. 
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Just thought I'd add something else here. If you really don't have the time to read the books, I'd suggest picking something that is shorter and easier to get through.
Andrew
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12-21-2003, 12:21 PM
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I gotta speak up for a sec..this kid is FAR from lazy!!!!
Ok..said my piece.
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12-21-2003, 04:39 PM
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I know some places in the book that I have to look through in order to find specific quotes (like where Gandalf and Frodo have the Gollum discussion) but I don't know where there are some other important quotes that could relate to my topic. I'm not asking anyone to do the work for me, I'm just asking if anyone knows of any good quotes or sites that have some good quotes from the books. I am still going to verify that they are real and I have to find what page they are on, so it's not like I'm making someone else do my work. I just don't have the time to read the whole trilogy over again.
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