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Old 11-18-2003, 08:38 AM   #1 of 49
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FCC Allows the F* word, rumor or truth?


Is this rumor or true?

Just talked to someone and he says that the FCC has allowed the use of F*** for anytime on TV or radio, as long as its not used when relating to sex.

Hard to believe as I can't find any other information other than this e-mail he showed me.

personally I'd rather see complete nudity allowed, than this. In fact I figured that would have been the next thing allowed.
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Old 11-18-2003, 09:03 AM   #2 of 49
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Where do these things get started?

While I don’t know for sure, I am reasonably certain that if this were the case there would be a considerable mention of the policy change in the press—and a predictable outcry.

Why would your friend think that the FCC changed their criteria?




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Old 11-18-2003, 09:11 AM   #3 of 49
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Just talked to someone and he says that the FCC has allowed the use of F*** for anytime on TV or radio, as long as its not used when relating to sex.


Not exactly. What the FCC did was decline to fine a network or cable channel (I forget which) that ran an awards show without the usual 7-second tape delay. One of the recipients said something like, "This is f***ing awsome." I forget who the guy was, and what awards show it was (something to do with music, I believe), but the incident was reported at the time, although it didn't get a huge amount of press.

When it received complaints and investigated the incident the Commission decided not to impose a fine in this particular case, noting the way the word was used and the spontaneous nature of the outburst. At worst the ruling means that the Commission may decide certain things on a case-by-case basis for live events. It does not represent a blanket change of FCC policy, and does not apply to scripted shows and other debilberate use of the word and its variants. So the cops on NYPD Blue are not going to start referring to "f***ing skel" next season.

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Old 11-18-2003, 09:16 AM   #4 of 49
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By the way, you probably could get away with using the word in a paid political ad for radio or TV, provided the candidate's voice is also heard in the commercial. Years ago when sh*t and its variants were still banned there was a radio ad for Barry Commoner (IIRC) that started with the word "Bullsh*t!" Turns out that FCC broadcast standards rules do not apply to purely political speech in the form of campaign ads that meet the criteria. You can say anything you want in those, and the FCC won't intervene. So presumably you could have an ad today that says, "F*** [insert name of politician you most hate here]" and nobody could lay a glove on you. Of course, it is an open question whether you'd turn off as many voters with your vulgarity as you attracted with your directness.

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Old 11-18-2003, 09:22 AM   #5 of 49
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Bono said "fucking brilliant" on the Golden Globe Awards when he accepted his award for the band U2. You can read the FCC's report about it here:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-03-3045A1.pdf

Just because it's okay to do it doesn't mean that the networks will dare to do it on a taped show.





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Old 11-18-2003, 11:24 AM   #6 of 49
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Old 11-18-2003, 11:44 AM   #7 of 49
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Please don't. The poltical reference was an unfortunate lapse, given the HTF rules. Let's not go there.

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:36 PM   #8 of 49
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Reading that report, it does sound as if a non-sexual use of fuck is allowed. It's on page three, and I won't retype what it says, but as long as it isn't about sex or "excretory" functions, it isn't within "the scope of the Commision."

So, you could say "fuck" I think. I mentioned this to a friend, and he told me that he was listening to the (OTA) radio, and he heard them broadcast a couple of songs completely unedited with F-bombs in them. I asked him if the F word was used in a sexual context, and he said no. So, I'm going to assume that that's the law now.

That said, I don't care. It's time that TV caught up with what movies have been doing since 1968.
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Old 11-18-2003, 01:40 PM   #9 of 49
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If I understand this correctly, use of the "f" word will not be punished if used as an adjective or adverb ("F**king brilliant"), but using it as a verb ("I f**ked Heather - twice, but with no love, and never again") is strictly forbidden.
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Old 11-18-2003, 03:29 PM   #10 of 49
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SteveA, that's correct.





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