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Old 05-19-2008, 12:42 PM   #7 of 16
Stephen Tu
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Re: PC systems more popular now?


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Originally Posted by robert bartsch
...but in the case of the DVR, I've already paid the artists via my cable bill, dido for each rented movie...

You paid for the right to view an authorized copy & return it, not for the right to make an unauthorized copy to keep forever. Just because you paid the artist *something* doesn't give you the right to circumvent the price they are asking for a purchase vs. a rental. E.g. they want $20 for the legal, authorized DVD/BD for you to own, not just some fraction of the $4 rental fee. As a consumer, if you feel the price is too high for that, then your legal, proper response is to simply not buy it, not rent it & make a copy. If the market agrees with you, that the price is too high for purchase, then the disc won't sell & the price will come down, perhaps to a more palatable level for you. If not, well, just live without the disc, or simply rent it again if you wish another viewing.

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So people who have made VCR copies of movies they rented for the last 30 years are violating copyright laws?
Yes.

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Then why haven't the artists prevented electronics manufactorers from selling dulicating equipment?
The core of the court ruling was that if equipment had substantial non-copyright-infringing uses, you can't bar their sale just because some people use them to infringe.

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I thought the artists tried this in the 1970-80's and the Supreme court ruled aginst them.
If you read the ruling (google for "Betamax decision"), you'll see that they only legalized time-shifting, certainly not duplication of rentals.

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The more recent issue with people file sharing music was clearly a different situation since the artists were not being paid by those who downloaded the music; right?

No. Both giving the studio $0 (illegal download) instead of $1 (legal download) and giving the studio part of $4 (rental) instead of $20(purchase) are harming the owner of the copyright. It's akin to going into a store and altering a price tag, just because you give them *some* money doesn't mean you aren't stealing from them.

If you can't afford to buy movies, just rent! A netflix sub at $17/month is like owning nearly every major (non-porn, domestic) DVD ever made, just the retrieval system is more inefficient than having the disc at home . But it's a ton cheaper than legally buying thousands of titles ...

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