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Nelson Au · 11-12-2007, 02:38 PM

I am trying to avoid all the spoilers and potential spoilers even if it's specualtion. Though it's hard to avoid.

I have two issues that have come into my head based on all the bits of input so far.

I think this film could go the way of Superman Returns. The creators all mean very well and are doing their best to keep it real and good and respect what has come. But the new actors, like Routh as Superman, could walk that line of trying to imitate Reeves as Superman and not quite pull it off. They'll try, but it might fall flat. If Routh tried to make it his own, would it have been better, don't know, they chose this route for the character, the Reeve's characteristics.

I know the new actors, Quito particualrly, say they will bring their own stamp to the characters, it will be interesting to see how and if they do it and pull it off.

I am not saying it won't work, I am very open to this new effort. I just have this creeping feeling, it could go either way. All this casting news is great, but it adds to this feeling of Superman Returns kind of vibe. They will be bringing all these characters back, like they did in Superman Returns. It can feel almost off-putting they are cramming all these minor characters we either saw briefly in TOS or just heard mention of in TOS. I know they could be just quick moments. But Kate Bosworth's Lois Lane in SR just destroyed the character for me, or I should say, destroyed what Margot Kidder created.

I am open to new actors, but I have a slight red alert in the back of my mind now.

The second thing on my mind is what the impact of this film can have on the franchise. Using the Superman example again, the point of the movie is to bring in a new generation of fans and hopefully please us older ones. Superman Returns did nothing for me. It was technically head and shoulders above the Reeve films. But SR lacked the heart of the Reeve/Donner film. I can enjoy the Reeve/Donner films over and over. The new SR is only fun to watch if you like the see the cool effects and seemless flying scenes, which are exceptional.

I feel Star Trek 2008 will definitely out-do the effects and look of all past Star Trek efforts and make great HDM show off material! And it will win new fans for sure. But there's that certain chemical make-up that TOS had, it had heart and conviction. So will the new film's gloss seduce you in and make you a fan? If the film is really good, then it should. I fear it could have some discard TOS and possibly some will forget that it started with that. Of course in life, this happens. BUt those in the know, will always respect and remember TOS, Roddenberry and all those that made it. At least I hope so.

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Nelson Au Member Location: Silicon Valley Join Date: Mar 1999 Local Time: 02:16 AM Local Date: 11-18-2008 Posts: 3,273	Re: Star Trek XI- Official now- 12.25.2008 (merged) I am trying to avoid all the spoilers and potential spoilers even if it's specualtion. Though it's hard to avoid. I have two issues that have come into my head based on all the bits of input so far. I think this film could go the way of Superman Returns. The creators all mean very well and are doing their best to keep it real and good and respect what has come. But the new actors, like Routh as Superman, could walk that line of trying to imitate Reeves as Superman and not quite pull it off. They'll try, but it might fall flat. If Routh tried to make it his own, would it have been better, don't know, they chose this route for the character, the Reeve's characteristics. I know the new actors, Quito particualrly, say they will bring their own stamp to the characters, it will be interesting to see how and if they do it and pull it off. I am not saying it won't work, I am very open to this new effort. I just have this creeping feeling, it could go either way. All this casting news is great, but it adds to this feeling of Superman Returns kind of vibe. They will be bringing all these characters back, like they did in Superman Returns. It can feel almost off-putting they are cramming all these minor characters we either saw briefly in TOS or just heard mention of in TOS. I know they could be just quick moments. But Kate Bosworth's Lois Lane in SR just destroyed the character for me, or I should say, destroyed what Margot Kidder created. I am open to new actors, but I have a slight red alert in the back of my mind now. The second thing on my mind is what the impact of this film can have on the franchise. Using the Superman example again, the point of the movie is to bring in a new generation of fans and hopefully please us older ones. Superman Returns did nothing for me. It was technically head and shoulders above the Reeve films. But SR lacked the heart of the Reeve/Donner film. I can enjoy the Reeve/Donner films over and over. The new SR is only fun to watch if you like the see the cool effects and seemless flying scenes, which are exceptional. I feel Star Trek 2008 will definitely out-do the effects and look of all past Star Trek efforts and make great HDM show off material! And it will win new fans for sure. But there's that certain chemical make-up that TOS had, it had heart and conviction. So will the new film's gloss seduce you in and make you a fan? If the film is really good, then it should. I fear it could have some discard TOS and possibly some will forget that it started with that. Of course in life, this happens. BUt those in the know, will always respect and remember TOS, Roddenberry and all those that made it. At least I hope so. Last edited by Nelson Au : 11-12-2007 at 02:44 PM.