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Title 16:9 480p 720p 1080i Online Play Content DL Custom Sndtrk Sound
007: Agent Under Fire No No No No DD 5.1
007: Nightfire Yes Yes No No No No DD 5.1
4x4 Evo 2 No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Aggressive Inline Yes Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
AirForce Delta Storm No Yes No No DD 5.1
Alias No Yes No No DD 5.1
Aliens vs. Predator: Extinction No Yes No No No No No DD 4.1
All Star Baseball 2003 No Yes No No DD 5.1
All Star Baseball 2004 No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Amped Yes Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Amped 2 Yes Yes Yes No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Apex No Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Armed and Dangerous Yes Yes No No No Yes No DD 5.1
Azurik : Rise of Perathia Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Batman No Yes No No DD 5.1
Batman: Dark Tomorrow No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Battlestar Galactica No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Beyond Good and Evil (non-anamorphic) Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Blade II No Yes No No No DD 5.1
Blinx: The Time Sweeper No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Blood Omen 2 No Yes No No DD 5.1
Bloodrayne No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Bloodwake No Yes No No DD 5.1
BMX XXX Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Breakdown Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Bruce Lee No Yes No No DD 5.1
Brute Force No Yes No No No Yes No DD 5.1
Buffy the Vampire Slayer No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Buffy: Chaos Bleeds Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Burnout Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Burnout 2: Point of Impact Yes Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
Cel Damage No Yes No No DD 5.1
Chase: Hollywood Stunt Driver No Yes No No No Yes DD 4.0
Circus Maximus No Yes No No DD 5.1
Colin McRae 04 Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Colin McRae Rally 3 Yes No No No No No No DD 5.1
Conflict Desert Storm Yes Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
CounterStrike No Yes No No Yes Yes Yes DD 5.1
Crash Bandicoot No Yes No No DD 5.1
Crazy Taxi 3 High Roller No Yes No No DD 5.1
Crimson Sea No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Crimson Skies No Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Dave Mirra BMX 2 No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Dead or Alive 3 Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball Yes Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Dead to Rights Yes Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Deathrow Yes Yes No No No DD 5.1
Defender No Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Dino Crisis 3 No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Dragon's Lair 3D Yes Yes Yes Yes No DD 5.1
Elder Scrolls III Morrowind No Yes No No DD 5.1
Enclave Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Enter the Matrix Yes Yes Yes Yes No No No DD 5.1
EPSN NFL Football 2k4 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes No DD 5.1
ESPN NBA Basketball 2k4 Yes Yes Yes No Yes Yes DD 5.1
ESPN NHL Hockey 2k4 No Yes No No
ESPN Snowboarding No Yes No No DD 5.1
F1 2001 Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Fatal Frame No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Fifa 2003 Yes Yes No No No No
Fifa World Cup 2002 No Yes No No DD 5.1
Finding Nemo No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Fire Blade No Yes No No No No No
Freedom Fighters Yes Yes Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Fuzion Frenzy No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Genma Onimusha No Yes No No DD 5.1
Ghost Recon No Yes No No Yes No DD 5.1
Ghost Recon:Island Thunder No Yes No No Yes Yes No
Grabbed By the Ghoulies Yes Yes No No
Grand Theft Auto III Yes Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Yes Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Gunmetal No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Gunvalkyrie No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Halo No Yes No No DD 5.1
High Heat 2004 Yes
Hitman 2 Yes No No No DD 5.1
House of the Dead 3 No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Hunter No Yes No No DD 5.1
Hunter the Reckoning: Redeemer No Yes No No No Yes No DD 5.1
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Inside Pitch 2003 No No No No Yes Yes Yes
James Bond: Everything or Nothing Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy Yes Yes No No Yes No No DD 5.1
Jet Set Radio Future No Yes No No DD 5.1
Kakuto Chojin No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Kill.Switch No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Knockout Kings 2002 No Yes No No DD 5.1
Kung Fu Chaos No No No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Links 2004 No Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Lord of the Rings: Two Towers No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
LotR: Return of the King No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Madden NFL 2002 Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Madden NFL 2003 Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Madden NFL 2004 Yes Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
Mafia No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2 No Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
Max Payne No Yes No No DD 5.1
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
MechAssault No Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Medal of Honor: Frontline No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Medal of Honor: Rising Sun No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Midnight Club 2 Yes Yes No No Yes No DD 5.1
Midtown Madness 3 No Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Minority Report: Everybody Runs Yes Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Moto GP Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
MotoGP 2 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
MVP Baseball 2004 Yes Yes Yes No No No DD 5.1
MX Superfly No Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
MX Unleashed Yes Yes Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Nascar Heat Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Nascar Thunder Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
NASCAR Thunder 2003 Yes Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
NASCAR Thunder 2004 Yes Yes No No No No Yes DD 5.1
NBA 2002 No Yes No No DD 5.1
NBA 2k2 No Yes No No DD 5.1
NBA 2k3 Yes Yes Yes No Yes DD 5.1
NBA Inside Drive No Yes No No DD 5.1
NBA Inside Drive 2003 Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
NBA Street Vol. 2 Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
NCAA Basketball 2k3 Yes Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
NCAA Football 2003 Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
NCAA Football 2004 Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Need For Speed Underground No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
NFL 2K2 No Yes No No DD 5.1
NFL 2K3 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
NFL Blitz 2002 No Yes No No
NFL Fever 2002 No Yes No No DD 5.1
NFL Fever 2003 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
NFL Fever 2004 Yes Yes No Yes Yes DD 5.1
NFL Street Yes Yes No No No DD 5.1
NHL 2002 No Yes No No DD 5.1
NHL 2k3 Yes Yes Yes DD 5.1
NHL Hitz 20-02 No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Nightcaster No Yes No No DD 5.1
Ninja Gaiden Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee No Yes No No DD 5.1
Outlaw Golf No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Outlaw Volleyball No Yes No No Yes Yes Yes DD 5.1
Outlaw Volleyball: Red Hot (Blockbuster excl.) No Yes No No
Panzer Dragoon Orta Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Phantom Crash No Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Pro Race Driver No No No No No No No
Project Gotham Racing No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Project Gotham Racing 2 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes Yes DD 5.1
Quantum Redshift Yes Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
Rainbow Six 3 No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Rallisport Challenge Yes Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Red Card 2003 No Yes No No DD 5.1
Red Faction II No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Return to Castle Wolfenstein No Yes No No Yes No DD 5.1
Robotech: Battlecry No Yes No No DD 5.1
Rocky Yes Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Rogue Ops No Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Secret Weapons Over Normandy No Yes No No No Yes No DD 5.1
Sega GT 2002 Yes Yes No No No Yes DD 5.1
Sega GT Online Yes Yes No No Yes Yes DD 5.1
Serious Sam No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Shenmue 2 No Yes No No No No DD 5.1
Shrek No Yes No No DD 5.1
Silent Hill 2 No Yes No No DD 4.0
Simpson's Road Rage No Yes No No DD 5.1
Simpsons: Hit 'n' Run Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Soldier of Fortune 2: Double Helix No Yes No No Yes Yes No
Sonic Heroes No Yes No No DD 5.1
Soul Calibur II (720p is 4:3 only) Yes Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Spider-Man No Yes No No DD 5.1
Splashdown No Yes No No Yes DD 5.1
Splinter Cell No Yes No No No Yes No DD 5.1
Splinter Cellandora's Box No Yes No No Yes No DD 5.1
Spyhunter No Yes No No DD 5.1
SSX Tricky Yes Yes No No DD 5.1
SSX3 Yes Yes No No No No No DD 5.1
Star Wars Starfighter N
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I added some fields, so please let me know if there are any inaccuracies. I'll start working on inserting people's updates next...

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I just got NBA 2k3, and I am having trouble getting the 720p display to work on my MITSUBISHI 46" Widescreen TV. I have my xbox plugged into the "DTV" input, my dashboard for xbox has all resolutions and widescreen turned on. I am using the monster component cable for xbox. The DTV input says 1080i, 480p, and 480i. does this mean my TV will not be able to do 720p? anyone else have a mitsubishi TV out there? PLEASE HELP!
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Patrick, I don't own a Mitsu but I'm pretty sure they don't pass a 720p signal. Most hdtv's won't display 720p natively. Most that do accept it will downconvert the signal to 480p.

Dave, thanks for keeping this going for everyone. Your hard work is appeciated.
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How can a GameCube game have 5.1 sound? Are you referring to PL2? In that case, there's a few more games you should add, like Super Mario Sunshine and Eternal Darkness.

Oddly enough, the Super Monkey Ball 2 disc actually has the DD5.1 logo on it. However, the GC doesn't pass a digital audio signal, as far as I know.
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The Thing for the Xbox is missing, here is the info on it

480p: No
16x9: Yes
DD5.1: Yes

A few more changes

Robotech for Xbox is in DD5.1
Transworld Surf is not 16x9 on Xbox or PS2

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I'd drop the 720p/1080i categories for Gamecube/PS-2 and 5.1 sound on Gamecube (and go with Pro-Logic 2).

Since neither the GC or PS-2 support those resolutions, no point in having in a Matrix

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And maybe add "personal soundtrack" option for Xbox; folks have occasionally posted that one and it would be nice to know.
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Super Monkey Ball 2 for the Gamecube

480p: Yes
16x9: Yes
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5.1 and 480p are sort of a given for Xbox titles. Yes, there are a couple games that have slipped through the cracks, but they are crap anyway.

I would nix one of those columns (maybe 5.1) and just put in the Xbox title (all games 5.1 DD sound). Then you'll have room room for:

Xbox Live! or Online: Yes/No

No, online play has nothing to do with a home theater related DD5.1/16:9 thread, but it will be good info to have on there when there are dozens of online Xbox titles next year around this time.

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Hey, thanks for picking up on this, Dave. Extremely useful information.
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Xbox

Blinx: The Time Sweeper
480p: Yes
16x9: No (I'd like other opinions though, as it's a toughy)
DD5.1: Yes

I like it so far, but haven't played it enough to give any solid impression just yet.
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How can a GameCube game have 5.1 sound? Are you referring to PL2? In that case, there's a few more games you should add, like Super Mario Sunshine and Eternal Darkness.
Yep. I'm throwing in 5.1 as a catch-all for DD5.1, DTS & DPLII. I left most of the Gamecube 5.1 section blank because frankly, I don't have a clue what GC games support 5.1 (No DPLII on my receiver ). If you have info for the other GC titles, I'd appreciate that as well.

I'm going to do a bit of organization on my end so that I can update faster, so tonight I'll have the new updates posted (+ more from the old thread). Hopefully I'll have the custom soundtracks and an online field added. Good suggestions!

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Scott,

I'll take a look at Blinx tonight when I get home and see if that suckers 16:9. Looking forward to finally playing it!
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Thanks from me too, Dave.

I'm sure everyone knows this already, but SOCOM for the PS2 is verified:

480p: Yes
16:9: Yes (seems to be based on console setup, not game option)
5.1: Sorta, see note...

My 2 cents on the DPL II issue: DPL and DPL II both take an analog stereo signal and separate it into surround channels. So, really any stereo signal is converted to surround if you have a DPL (1 or 2) receiver. Thus, I don't think DPL2 should count towards the 5.1 column -- instead, I think only true digital, discrete surround should count towards the 5.1 column. Maybe instead of yes/no, put DD, DDx.x, DTS, DTS/ES, DPL2, DPL, Stereo, or Mono in there. That said, SOCOM does have a DPL 2 logo on the label, but it's still just analog stereo.
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With an "online" field, how should we handle titles like Halo that aren't officially online titles, but can be tricked with something like Gamespy?

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There are games that "support" DPL2 in that when they are decoded, they would sound more like 5.1 than any regular non-supported game. I think the DPL2 games should at least have their own column, or just throw them under 5.1 to be uniform. it should not be thrown out, though, like you suggest.

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I also am having problems with Xbox NBA 2K3 in 720p mode on my Pioneer Elite 610. When I enable 720p in the user menu and insert the game disc, I then hold the A, B, X, Y buttons down through the startup. I don't get any options asking me what resolution to use. When the game start menu loads, the screen is all messed up and it repeats horizontally. You can kinda see what's going on. If a HDTV can't upconvert a 720p signal then is 720p worthless? And don't most HDTV's have this constraint?
I guess I won't look forward to any more 720p games
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Backing up Scott on this one:

Blinx The Time Sweeper

16:9: NO!
480p: Yes
5.1 sound: Yes
72op: No
1080I: No

After checking Blinx for awhile, you can notice stretching of the blinx character model and subtle stretching of the circles in the game GUI. Definitely not 16:9.
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Most mitsubishi hdtv's upconvert 720p to 1080i.
I own the ws55809 55in which does this...

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but they are crap anyway..

You haven't seen nor played The Thing I presume?

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Most mitsubishi hdtv's upconvert 720p to 1080i.
I own the ws55809 55in which does this...

Totally inaccurate. Mits only has one rear projection set that accepts/unconverts a 720p signal, the WD-65000. It's a $10,000 DLP set. All HD set top boxes can accept and upconvert a 720p signal to 1080i and output it to your TV, but most analog RPTVs cannot accept a 720p signal directly.

There are a few that can, including some Sony's, and some more on the horizon.

720p is usually availble on LCD, DLP and plasma sets and high end front projection units, but at a cost upwards of $8,000 and higher.

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So, the Xbox doesn't upconvert a 720p signal to 1080i? If so, then this is really lame. If all set top boxes can do this, then why wouldn't Microsoft enable the Xbox to do it?
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Since most RP HDTV's don't accept 720p signals, and the Xbox won't upconvert those signals to 1080i, we are better off just leaving the Xbox connected to an extra 480p input rather than deal with switching and taking up valuable 1080i inputs.

I have a switch all ready to go, but to this date, all of my Xbox playing has been at 480p, so I've left it connected to an extra 480p input that's not being used..rather than trying to share the input with my HD receiver.

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This is from the article at Anandtech

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The problem you run into next is that most HDTVs don't support 720p but instead support 1080i. This isn't as big of a problem since the conexant chip can scale the output to 1080i and most TVs even scale unsupported inputs to resolutions they do support.


Are they saying that the Xbox can upconvert 720p to 1080i?
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Any word on NHL 2003 for the X-Box? 16:9 or not? I'm waiting to buy until I find out.
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Are they saying that the Xbox can upconvert 720p to 1080i?
They're implying that, yes, but so far people in this situation are not reporting that the Xbox actually upconverts. So, while it might technically have the capability, it's currently not being used.
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They're implying that, yes, but so far people in this situation are not reporting that the Xbox actually upconverts. So, while it might technically have the capability, it's currently not being used.

If I'm not mistaken, the option to upconvert is software driven. Unless someone comes up with a hardware hack to have the Xbox upconvert all signals to 1080i, etc.

Where's that Gary King guy when you need him?

The Conexant chip is more than capable of upconverting any signal to 1080i, it just needs to be told to do so.

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Here's a new one for the list:

Burnout 2 for PS2. I borrowed it from somebody this week, and it not only has a 16:9 option, it also supports 480p. Looks pretty darn good and I had a blast with it.

As with Tekken 4, you hold down the "X" and triangle buttons as the game is loading to get the option for progressive scan.
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Xbox Custom Soundtrack games:

Amped
Dave Mirra 2
Fusion Frenzy
Moto GP
NHL Hitz 20-02
Project Gotham Racing
RalliSport Challenge
Splashdown
Test Drive
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3

I know there are more, but this is all I can remember.
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Adding to Johns list:

4x4 Evo 2
Aggressive Inline
Conflict Desert Storm
Gun Metal
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2
NASCAR Thunder 2003
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2
Quantum Redshift
Sega GT 2002
Street Hoops
Transworld Surf
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