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Paramount -- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THE FABULOUS STAINS

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Well, you've covered the bulk of what I'd like to see. I have a sneaky suspicion a trailer was never made for the movie though, in which case if I get to work on the project (hint ) I would love to make one from scratch; something that could be used in the future as a cross-plug on other Paramount DVD's and on the internet.

To your generally thorough list of supplements I would add:

Missing scenes from it's prerelease incarnations as ALL WASHED UP and THE PROFESSIONALS. It would be asking way too much to have the scenes via seamless branching, but if any of the footage exists, especially the original "unhappy ending" from the Seattle test screeing, it would greatly enrich the viewer as to how different the film was at one time. Maybe the title treatments or prelim ad artwork when those titles were under serious consideration.

As documented by Jacobsen and verified by me, Dowd and Adler would prefer not to be in each other's company. But if both of them are allowed separately to speak their peace in full, and those comments could be edited into a "face off," either in audio commentary or video supplement, that would be a tremendous idea. It would lend a sort of "Rashomon"/"Behind the Music" feel, the drama behind the drama.

An isolated music score, since there has never been a commercial release of the excellent soundtrack.

While I like the idea of a textless version of the Stains music video, I would really like to see any performance footage of the real Professionals. Paul Cook and Steve Jones, along with former Bow Wow Wow members, did record an album and some singles for Virgin as The Professionals, including a fierce version of "Join the Professionals." If any clips of this exist, perhaps from Top of the Pops, that should be on there as well.

Audio commentary should not be limited to just the principals. I'm sure any number of great female rockers and writers would love to chime in on the impact of this film. This was one of the things I liked about the OP Criterion SID & NANCY commentary, having journalists and scenesters who actually lived during the time chiming in on the film's depiction of said events.

Finally, I would just love to have some cool cross-plug trailers for similar Paramount music/youth films -- BREAKING GLASS, AMERICAN HOT WAX, LITTLE DARLINGS, THE WARRIORS, etc.

Eh, a man can dream, can't he?

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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What do "stars" like Diane Lane and Laura Dern now think of this film? I believe this was documented by Sarah Jacobson wasn't it?

M.J.

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Martin, You should write E! and try to get them to do a True Hollywood Story about the picture. Maybe that would generate studio interest.


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I would suspect it would be a better subject for VH-1's BEHIND THE MUSIC, especially since that channel has actually run the movie a couple times. Not to mention VH-1 is, like Paramount, owned by Viacom. People love corporate synergy!

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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O.K. guys. How do we go about doing this and raising awareness of this great movie? We know that we have a core "cult" fanbase but how do we practically go about making it "mainstream"?

Who would have addresses for E!, VH1 "Behind The Music"? Maybe the movie and entertainment magazines like Entertainment Weekly, Movieline, Premiere, Empire, etc etc would be interested in doing something on the film?

Let's seriously consider how we can do this!

Especially considering how much it's popularity has grown. We should NOT let this film go unreleased forever.

Trev.

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I'm with you guys. Let's do this. I know soooo many people who would love this film in a quality official DVD or even VHS release.

What do we do now?

M.J.

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Well, if you live in the greater Illinois area, you can bring all your friends to a rare theatrical screening of THE FABULOUS STAINS, which will be at Landmark's Century Centre theatre at midnight on August 31st. If there is a significant audience at this performance, that will be a good sign to all involved that there is an audience for this movie.
Remember, the studio must believe that it is cost-effective to spend the money to release a rare title. So this is a perfect opportunity to vote with your wallet.

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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Best of luck with the screening tomorrow!

And don't forget to attend if you can - the more people who are aware of this title - the more people will see how great it is - the more people who will be interested in picking up the DVD - the better the chance of Paramount releasing it.

Let's get this film out there.

Mark, any luck with getting your fab artwork up?
Is this the artwork being used to promote the screening?

Trev.

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This is my dream for 2003:

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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That's really cool! I'd buy it in a shot if it ever happens.

M.J.

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Yep, every so often I resurrect this and see if anyone new notices.

I suspect that this is not likely for 2003. Could anyone say if we can at least hope to see this in preparation for 2004? Especially if some long shot Diane Lane wins Best Actress at this year's Academy Awards?

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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I think we will get this in 2003. The exposure and publicity that Diane Lane is getting at the moment (win or not) means that this is probably gonna be the best possible time to release this popular cult classic on DVD.

M.J.

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I'm sure there are plenty of die hard Diane Lane fans out there, like me, that would love to see this very rare and hard to find film on DVD.
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Any update on the status of this title?

M.J.

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Boxofficemojo.com indicates that "Ladies And Gentlemen The Fabulous Stains" WAS theatrically released! ??? Can anyone confirm?

Here is the link:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...lousstains.htm

M.J.

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If you live in the Los Angeles area, you have two opportunities to see STAINS in a theatrical setting. Attending these shows is VERY important, because that helps demonstrate that there is a market for the title on video. And it also helps prod the studio into striking another print.

Sunday, August 17th, 4PM -- ArcLight Cinemas, Hollywood

This is a festival screening, part of a larger 3-day event of rock-themed movies. Now, technically, Paramount does not see a box gross for this film; they are paid a flat fee for the screening, since it's a festival. But, if attendance figures are high, it will help send a message. Other good, not-on-video rock films that will be screening in this DON'T KNOCK THE ROCK fest include STARDUST, PRIVILEGE, and the original DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION. So you could help other films get DVD release by spending as much time there as possible. A full line-up is at the DON'T KNOCK THE ROCK website.

Friday, October 10th, Midnight -- Nuart Theatre, West L.A.

This screening is very crucial. Paramount does see a gross on this show, so if the paid turnout is big, their cut is big, and they will be very happy. MGM struck a new print on THE APPLE based off of one successful midnight show at the same theatre (it drew 346 people and grossed over $3000), so even if you don't live in L.A., tell your friends that do to come to the show.

The theme for this month, fellow Stainerators, is "DON'T PUT OUT...AGAIN!"

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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Hi Mark,

Great! Thanks for the info.

Is there anyway that we can get this info to other forums and movie info sites to boost the profile of the showings. I have already posted your info on several other forums (I hope you didn't mind) but what about other ways of boosting the profile of the screenings? We could start by nearer the time posting it in the MOVIES forum here I guess?

What do you think? Let me know and I'll help.

Thanks,

Martin.

M.J.

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If the Skunks know about it... they will come.

http://www.dianelanefan.dnswh.com/what's_new.htm

Please attend guys... and SPREAD THE WORD!

M.J.

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Following Diane Lane's Academy Award nominated success in "Unfaithful" and her current hit "Under The Tuscan Sun" wouldn't be great to get her 1981 cult classic "Ladies and Gentlemen The Fabulous Stains" out on DVD!? Please see what you can do. Thanks!

DON'T FORGET - THIS COMING FRIDAY NIGHT!

Friday, October 10th, Midnight -- Nuart Theatre, West L.A.

This screening is very crucial. Paramount does see a gross on this show, so if the paid turnout is big, their cut is big, and they will be very happy. MGM struck a new print on THE APPLE based off of one successful midnight show at the same theatre (it drew 346 people and grossed over $3000), so even if you don't live in L.A., tell your friends that do to come to the show.

The theme for this month, fellow Stainerators, is "DON'T PUT OUT...AGAIN!"

M.J.

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Remember tonight!

Friday, October 10th, Midnight -- Nuart Theatre, West L.A.

This screening is very crucial. Paramount does see a gross on this show, so if the paid turnout is big, their cut is big, and they will be very happy. MGM struck a new print on THE APPLE based off of one successful midnight show at the same theatre (it drew 346 people and grossed over $3000), so even if you don't live in L.A., tell your friends that do to come to the show.

The theme for this month, fellow Stainerators, is "DON'T PUT OUT...AGAIN!"

M.J.

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How did it go guys? I had to go with my girlfriend to see another Diane Lane movie "Under The Tuscan Sun". It was very good actually!

I hope the attendence was good at "Stains". Let me know.
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If and when a STAINS DVD arrives, it will be sadly bereft of a major participant.

Filmmaker Sarah Jacobson, who wrote the Grand Royal article and produced the IFC segment on the film, died from cancer this past weekend in New York.

There is no one out there who put herself out so much for this movie as she did. I can only hope one of these days, we'll reap the rewards of her work.

Remembering indie queen Sarah Jacobson

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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If and when a STAINS DVD arrives, it will be sadly bereft of a major participant.

Filmmaker Sarah Jacobson, who wrote the Grand Royal article and produced the IFC segment on the film, died from cancer this past weekend in New York.

There is no one out there who put herself out so much for this movie as she did. I can only hope one of these days, we'll reap the rewards of her work.


That is tragic news. I remember having email correspondence with her last year about THE STAINS. I had no idea she was even ill. Like you, I hope one day we'll reap the rewards of this talented person. She'll be missed.

M.J.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains - Finally on DVD

I rented the documentary THE RAINBOW WIG MAN (about the guy who showed up at sporting events with the Rainbow wig and the John 3:16 sign), released by Other Cinema DVD and it had a bunch of short films as extras. All were unrelated to the film which was odd.

Anyway, one was a ten minute documentary on the early 80's Diane Lane film LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FABULOUS STAINS. It featured new interviews with Diane Lane, Christine Lahti and the writer and director and many others involved.

In the short, they say that Paramount is finally releasing it to video.

Has anyone heard any news of this?

The film barely got a theatrical release and very rarely played cable. It never was released on VHS or laserdisc. Yet, it built a huge cult following.

This SHOULD have been big news, yet it is very odd to hear the news that the film is finally being released on video as an extra on another companies DVD, as an extra on an unrelated film.

The documentary was quite good so I would hope it would be included on the DVD of the film.
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The documentary was made years ago, and at that time, there were initial talks about getting a release done. However, these talks have been stalled on music clearances.

Sorry to say it, as one of the film's largest partisans, but there are absolutely no plans for STAINS on DVD anytime soon.

\"As I looked back over my life, I realized that I enjoyed nothing--not art, not sex--more than going to the movies.\" -- Gore Vidal

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I just watched this DVD, too (it's actually called "The Rainbow Man/John 3:16"), and came here to do a search on The Fabulous Stains -- I was pretty sure that the release that is mentioned in the short doc (from 1999) never happened, and I wanted to see if anyone here knew why (thanks, Mark! Music rights -- I shoulda guessed).

The IMDB also lists a new (2004) "Making of" documentary about the Fabulous Stains, for what that's worth (not much, probably).

(BTW -- The shorts on the Rainbow Man DVD are related in that they're all directed by Sam Green, who also co-directed the new Weather Underground documentary.)

--K
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(BTW -- The shorts on the Rainbow Man DVD are related in that they're all directed by Sam Green, who also co-directed the new Weather Underground documentary.)


Thanks. The STAINS doc didn't have any credits or even copyright date on it so I didn't know why it was on the DVD. Watching it again last night, I figured it would have had to be made in 1998 as it said ("Now, 18 years after the film was made....")

And THE RAINBOW MAN / JOHN 3:16 was a fascinating if very sad documentary.
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Any new news on a "Stains" DVD?

Also, I miss Sarah tremendously. She was a wonderful bright girl.

-Jake
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Any new news on a "Stains" DVD?


No. Not a thing.

M.J.

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Okay, enough is enough already.

I found my tape of Sarah's "IFC Split Screen" segment on "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stains" tonight in a closet. I popped it in and realized, "This film STILL isn't out on DVD."

In a rush of anger, I just bought a Fabulous Stains domain name and in the next couple of weeks I'm going to put up a proper website in tribute to the film. I'm picking up the crusade to see this film released. Music rights don't scare me. This has gone on far too long already.

I love this movie. A lot of people I love, love this movie. I believe a lot more people would love this movie if they only got the chance to see it. I'm just one dude, but I'm making it a personal mission to see "Ladies And Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stains" get the proper respect and DVD release it's been owed forever.

It's time to get on the ball. For Sarah.
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