movie poster frames?

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6/15/02 at 12:04am

Glenise
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Chuck C,

Do you think "Frame USA" could have sent replacements?
I would have taken pictures of the frames and tried to find out who is head of the customer service dept.
I would have emailed the head of their customer service dept.

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6/15/02 at 12:49am

Glenise
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Chet,

How much does shipping run from www.frameusa.com?

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11/24/02 at 3:15am

Glenise
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I still plan on getting the 27x40 "black" heavy metal frames from www.frameusa.com
These frames look very similar to the ones found at www.showoffdisplays.com

Here is the 27x40 aluminum frame from www.showoffdisplays.com $45

Here is Chet Wilson's 27x40 aluminum frame purchased from www.frameusa.com $24.50

Thanks for Chet I was initially going with the standard 27x40 plastic poster frames from www.frameusa.com
The aluminum frames look much nicer!

I can't tell the difference between the 27x40 aluminum frame from www.frameusa.com and www.showoffdisplays.com
At least not from the pictures.

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11/24/02 at 3:35pm

Tom Moran
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WIth all due respect all of the framing methods you guys seem to be using are going to destroy your posters over time.

If you care about the posters you have...and given the value of some classic posters these days I would think you should...have them professionally framed or learn proper framing techniques yourself.

If the poster face is touching the glass or plexi you are damaging the poster. Artwork should be matted all around so that it will never come into contact with the glass. Second, using cheap board or cardboard as a backing or mounting material is about the biggest no-no there is. These materials contain chemicals that will cause your posters to yellow, fade and generally deteriorate much faster than they should. Always use UV protective glass...and no, there is no chemical in glass that will by itself damage posters...the glass is the most inert thing about the frame...unless of course it is touching the print.

You may be thinking "I've never had any problems" and that is probably because you have not had the posters framed long enough to see the effects or worse, they have already started to fade and yellow but because it is gradual you are not noticing it.

Considering what some of you are spending on frames (and I would imagine the posters are not free either) I would recommend you frame them with some thought for preserving them.

Tom

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11/24/02 at 4:27pm

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Tom,

So are you saying buying poster frames from www.frameusa.com and www.showoffdisplays.com is a no no?
I guess this also means that poster frames from http://www.electroshops.com/consumers/posterframes.htm, http://www.bassind.com/theatre_displ...er_frames.html and http://www.hometheatreinteriors.com/...=POSTER_FRAMES
is a no no too!

Some of these places state that the frames come with a styrene poster protector.
What place do you recommend getting frames from?
Can you provide a weblink?
What brand did you purchase?

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11/24/02 at 6:36pm

Tom Moran
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To elaborate, what I'm saying is that the frames themselves are not so much of an issue as the framing techniques.

Most frames are fine if they are used with UV protective glass, acid free archival mounting board and mats around the edges of the poster so it's face does not come into contact with the glass. As a bonus, the posters look much nicer also.

The professionals also seal up the back of the print with paper to keep out environmental contaminants.

This stuff might be a bit extreme for some but it is pretty easy and inexpensive to do and who knows which posters are going to be collectors items 20-30 years from now.

I frame all of my own stuff using the above mentioned supplies from a local framing shop. It does not require any special tools if you buy the frames as modular pieces as others here have suggested. Many of the bigger full service hardware stores stock or can order UV glass and will cut it to size.

Just about any art supply store or professional framing shop sells these materials. To shop on the net try http://www.dickblick.com/

Tom

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11/25/02 at 12:58am

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I have a question.
If matting is used doesn't that crop the poster so that the entire poster isn't shown.
Ex. Wouldn't some of the sides, top and bottom not be seen?

How does this sound for a poster frame?

Available in two sizes: 27x40 and 27x41 (custom sizes, also)

Satin black only

Custom quality material (no plastic frames here)

Genuine UV filtered plexiglass

Foamcore backing

Wired, and ready to hang.

Thanks!

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11/25/02 at 1:12pm

Jeff Richardson
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I'm sure that the remarks of Tom Moran are valid, but as someone who is not looking to save posters for 20+ years but instead someone who wants a decent looking frame for a reasonable price, I find myself trying to choose between two of the places mentioned above in this post -- FrameUSA and Show Off Displays (SOD). SOD allows a choice between wood and metal frames. Can anyone comment on how either looks in real life? Assuming that I get metal, Frame USA also has metal frames. Can anyone compare the quality of the two -- further up in this post there are two pictures that look about the same, but it is very tough to tell from the picture quality -- or at least give more detail on why they chose one over the other? It looks like the Frame USA frames are about $25 whereas the SOD frames are closer to $50. Since I plan to get several frames, that is a substantial difference. I'm happy to pay more if I think I am really getting more, but it looks to me as if the two frames are very very similar.

All comments appreciated. Thanks!

-Jeff

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11/25/02 at 5:23pm

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Jeff,

I agree with you. If you have a poster that is old or one with autographs then what Tom says is valid. I have read the very same things he mentioned elsewhere. For whats its worth:

As Glenise said I bought mine at Frameusa.com. I bought the "heavy metal" frames and am very happy with them. I have changed out posters several times and they seem sturdy enough. I intend to buy 2-3 more frames soon. Seems like they were $25 or $27 a piece. They have styrene glass, aluminum frame, cardboard back, and spring loaded clips that hold the poster in place. The corners were all square. You can take a look here:

HT room with frameusa poster frames

Hope I was of some help. The $27 dollar frames look fine to me. But ultimately it boils down to how money you want to spend.

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11/25/02 at 10:59pm

Tom Moran
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Glenise,

Yes you are correct the matting will cover the poster so you need to purchase the mat and the frame large enough to accommodate the poster you want to frame.

With a 27 X 40 piece of artwork a 3" mat would look good so you would need a frame that was 6 inches larger than the poster (33 X 46). The inner edge of the mat should cover only the outer 1/8" to 1/4" of the poster.

While not archival Foamcore is sturdy and is widely used in commercial applications. For longer life use an archival mounting board instead and either way make sure the poster is mounted to the backing material using a archival adhesive material.

Nothing looks tackier to me than a poster that was crammed into a frame without being mounted and has buckled and bowed so parts of it reflect light and the whole thing just looks sloppy.

But then again I've spent many hours hanging shows in galleries so I guess it is pet peeve for me to see artwork treated in a throw away manner considering the whole point is for people to enjoy looking at it.

Tom

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11/26/02 at 2:12am

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Tom,

Can you tell me the exact parts that you purchased from www.dickblick.com?
I'm using $15 27x40 posters by the way.
I might take a trip to www.hobbylobby.com and www.michaels.com sometime this week.
I'll probably go Wed. just to shop around and compare prices.
I also heard that www.joann.com does custom framing.

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11/26/02 at 3:10am

Glenise
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Well, since I have made up my mind, (I think) I may go this route:

http://store.yahoo.com/hollywoodgall...mounting1.html

I think the "Braveheart", "Shawshank Redemption" and "Tombstone" posters look awesome!
I plan on keeping the existing posters that I have purchased.
I realize that plak mounting them decreases their value.
Even if my posters don't have any value 20 years from now, they will have value to me because they are from my favorite movies.

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11/26/02 at 10:58am

Mike G
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Glenise, those are sweet! I never really considered plak mounting but I love that look.

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11/26/02 at 11:46am

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Mike,

I love the way the posters look too!
Too bad that company isn't located in Atlanta.
I guess I'll to find one that can frame just like that company in NY.
The plak mounting makes the posters look almost good to eat.
I wouldn't even select those particular posters, but !@#$ plak mounting does look sweet.
Definetely looks more professional in my opinion.
I'm frugal but I would pay $35 - $40 per poster with no problem if they look like that!

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11/26/02 at 7:17pm

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The easiest stuff to use for mounting is
Crescent Perfect Mount Self-Adhesive Mounting Board

When it comes to mat board you could check and see if there is a Dick Blick store in your area and have them cut it for you or if you are handy and want to do more than one poster by a good mat cutter and the board and cut it yourself.

With these two products you are looking at about $20 in materials per poster, more in labor if you have the mat cut, but still a great value IMO.

If there is not a Dick Blick in your area go to a frame shop and see what they will charge to cut you a mat to fit your poster.

Tom

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11/26/02 at 9:09pm

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I just emailed Dick Blick and asked them if they could do plak mounting for me.
There are two Dick Blick's near Atlanta.
Thanks!

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11/27/02 at 10:12am

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Update (plak mounting)

I just called several places in Atlanta.
Two places quoted $87 and another one $101.
#$%^
I called Dick Blick and they don't do plak mounting.

I have called framing places, art places, trophy places and kinkos in Atlanta.
Seems like no one in Atlanta does plak mounting or the prices are too high.
I called www.plakit.com in Florida and asked if they had a location in Atlanta.
They said no.
They said that "plak mounting" is popular up north.

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11/28/02 at 5:22am

Scott Andrews
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WAIT! Don't buy anything until you check www.graphikdimensions.com I got all of my metal frames (if that is all you want)for very reasonable prices. I will be happy to send you some photos of my frames from my theater. I collect movie posters and I prefer the frames from graphik dimensions.
Hope this helps.
Scott

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11/28/02 at 7:05am

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I been to this website under the name http://www.pictureframes.com but was unable to locate ready made 27x40 aluminum poster frames.
Please poster pictures of your frames.
Thanks!

Update!
I went back to the website and put in a size of 27x40.
Their prices seem better than www.frameusa.com.
I think after seeing plak mounting that I'm going to have to go with that method.
I just wish Atlanta was more hip and that they offered plak mounting for $35 - $40 or that there was a www.plak-it.com located here.

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11/28/02 at 9:11pm

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I am having trouble locating the 27 x 40 frames at www.pictureframes.com what model #('s) are the movie poster size frames?

- Russ

If the woman don\'t find you handsome, they may as well find you handy. - Red Green

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11/29/02 at 2:12am

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Russ,

I had the same problem locating 27x40 frames from www.pictureframes.com
You have to manually enter the width of 27" and length of 40" on a webpage then pick style 888 or 777.
Kinda confusing I think.
It give you a price of about $20 something.

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12/31/02 at 5:33am

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Tom,

It will be a while before posters are displayed in my basement.
I was looking at Dick Blick's website a few mins ago.

Here is a partial quote from their website about crescent perfect mount self-adhesive mounting board:

"An acid-free mounting board that carries a pH neutral, pressure-activated adhesive. It permits easy positioning and repositioning until firm pressure is applied with a burnisher or press, forming a permanent bond.

A perfect choice for adhesive-resistant items such as photographs, varnished posters, prints on gloss paper and laminated items. Easy to use; no sprays or wet pastes to deal with."

Would Dick Blick be able to mount my posters with the crescent perfect mount self-adhesive mounting board and by using a burnisher or press?
Also, would they be able to put some kind of non-glare laminate on the poster?
Last question, how would I hang the poster after it's been mounted with the crescent perfect mount and some kind of non-glare laminate has been used?

Thanks!

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12/31/02 at 2:05pm

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I have a quick poster question. I have a Fellowship of the Ring poster (the Argonath one) which I assumed was 27x40, since that's what all the movie posters I've ever seen are. So I got a 27x40 frame for Christmas, but the poster is too SMALL! (it's a bit under 27" wide, and only 38.5" long)... My sister, who bought the poster for me, ordered it from some place in Canada for some reason, so I'm wondering if the reason it's a bit to small is because it's metric?

I've thought up a few options to fix this...
1. Get the frame cut at a local frame shop
2. Frame the poster as is and fill in with some black paper (this might look tacky)
3. Buy a new Fellowship poster from a place in the US and sell this one on ebay
4. Buy a Two Towers Poster, frame that, then order a slightly smaller frame for the Fellowship poster when I have a bit more $$

Any other creative ideas?

edit: I decided to go with option 4... I called the frame shop and they wont cut it unless it's a brand they sell... and I'm guessing even if it was a brand they sell, they'd charge a bit for it. Selling it on ebay wouldn't gain me much. I wanted that Saruman TTT poster anyway, so now I already have a frame for it

I'll just order a slightly smaller frame at some point for the Fellowship poster.

Brian

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1/1/03 at 11:48am

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The problem with ready made frames is twofold:

1) Most movie posters aren't a perfect 27x40" and

2) Posters are spray mounted to matboard before they are framed (unless you want unwanted rifts and waves).

Solution?

a) Spend $80-100 for custom framing like I did or

b) spray (dry) mount them yourself which I also do. I prefer using foamcore to mount posters.

Supplies: spray adhesive (e.g. 3M Super Spray 77, 16.5 oz.), a brayer or roller, straight edge, x-acto knife, foamcore.

DIRECTIONS:

1) unroll poster onto newspaper so that back side is facing up

2) Spray conservative amounts of adhesive onto poster.

3) Transfer poster to foamcore and **carefully** place bottom of poster on bottom of foamcore (you may wanna ask someone to help)

4) Take brayer a slowly roll the poster onto the foamcore using short up and down motions

5) Finish rolling the poster corner to corner, let dry for a few minutes

6) Place straight edge on the inside of the poster and use a sharp blade to cut. Cut in one direction (toward you). Make sure you don't dig real deep on the first cut. Instead, make 5-10 careful cuts until the excess piece comes of naturally.

7) admire your work of art!

NOTE:

You may have to cut off some of your poster if it's too long. e.g. you may have bought 30x40" foamcore and your poster is 40.25" long. Cut off excess poster AFTER mounting it. I've seen 40x60" foamcore thus making this a non-issue.

COST of supplies:

$40 for brayer, glue, and knife...straight-edge extra
$5 per sheet of foamcore (unless bought in bulk)

Cost to mount 1 poster: $45
Cost to mount 2 posters: $25
Cost to mount 5 posters: $13
Cost to mount 10 posters: $9

I think just a simple spray mount looks better than the standard 1" metal frame...no glare, smooth looks, lotsa compliments. 3/16" foamcore is typical, but dickblick also sells ½" foamcore. The only down side is that long-term protection from the elements is non-existent.

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1/1/03 at 6:53pm

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Hi Glenise,

With regards to your questions:

"Would Dick Blick be able to mount my posters with the crescent perfect mount self-adhesive mounting board and by using a burnisher or press? "

Some Bilck shops have mounting services and some don't. You should call your local one to see if they do mounting and if not consider doing it yourself or finding another local frame shop that does mounting with this or a similar material.

"Also, would they be able to put some kind of non-glare laminate on the poster? "

If you are going to laminate don't bother using archival methods for other aspects of your framing/mounting. In other words, lamination is not an archival process so you would be wasting your time/money doing other parts of the job with a view towards archival preservation.

Last question, how would I hang the poster after it's been mounted with the crescent perfect mount and some kind of non-glare laminate has been used?

If you are going to laminate I would use the method Brian describes here to mount the poster to foam core or have it mounted to foam core by a local framing/graphics arts shop. Note: If there is a professional/commercial photo lab in your area that does display prints they may well be able to mount your poster to foam core much cheaper than a frame shop will so shop around if this is the route you decide to go.

Hanging Foam core is simple process because the material is so light. Just put a pre made hook into the foam core backing and a nail in the wall.

Keep in mind however that this does approach does not live up to the ideals of archival preservation of the poster that I described in my earlier post. There is really no alternative to the "archival mount, archival mat around the sides and frame behind UV glass", approach that is the standard in the fine art world.

Tom

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1/2/03 at 2:32am

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Thanks Tom!

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1/3/03 at 7:46am

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I've got some authentic, still-in-the-theater poster boxes from a theater that is going to be demo'ed here in winston-Salem, NC. Images at www.wfubmc.edu/compumed/theater.html. I also have theater chairs and other stuff available. I'm going to try to sell to "local" people first (local being those willing to come pick them up!)

If you want to see them, we could do it tomorrow (Saturday, Jan 4). I'm going to be at the theater from about 10 to 2 working and could show you the chairs. You can buy them at that time if you want.

The theater is the one that closed two years ago at Hanes Mall (west side of Winston-Salem near the merging of Business 40 and Interstate 40). It's on the north side of the mall parking lot (towards Stratford Road across from Belks). Please let me know if you will be there tomorrow, but you can just show up during those times. Other stuff will be available at that time including poster boxes, exit signs, etc. - all in original, authentic theater condition!

Some other goods like the screens, acoustic panels, wall sconces, etc. may take a bit longer to de-install. Bring friends that want to buy stuff, too. Bring a truck or van if you want to take your chairs home then!

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1/4/03 at 6:42pm

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Just remember that any kind of dry-mounting, "plak" mounting and spray adhesives will devalue the poster to practically nothing. Linen-backing is the only accepted way to preserve the value of a mounted poster. Obviously, if these posters are only for your own display and you have no reason to ever think you'd want to sell them, then this should be no concern to you.

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1/25/04 at 4:49pm

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I for one am not particularly worried about "devaluing" the poster. The posters are for my own enjoyment only, and cna not imagine any reason why I would want to sell them....

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