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Our top 10's of 2000 - Time to throw down

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01. Ghost Dog
02. Traffic
03. Almost Famous
04. The Virgin Suicides
05. Wonder Boys
06. American Psycho
07. The Contender
08. Erin Brockovich
09. Time Code
10. State and Main

There are a couple biggies that I've yet to see, but I think this is pretty solid. I don't think it was such a bad year for US cinema, but perhaps that's because I can't weigh them against the foreign films that are being praised. '99 seemingly had more to offer, but '00 was still pretty good.

Though it doesn't qualify, Blood Simple was the best film I saw this year. I caught the re-release with my wife and was rather knocked out. Only the Coens could make me laugh at a newspaper hitting a screen door and a bugzapper going off.
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1. Dancer in the Dark
2. Yi-Yi
3. In the Mood for Love
4. You Can Count on Me
5. Wonder Boys
6. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
7. Chicken Run
8. High Fidelity
9. Almost Famous
10. Traffic

(Edited 7/31/01... and hopefully for the last time!)
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1. Traffic
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
3. The Contender
4. Virgin Suicides
5. Almost Famous
6. Erin Brockovich
7. Best in Show
8. Wonder Boys
9. State and Main
10. Chocolat

Still haven't seen: Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon, House of Mirth (I love Edith Wharton!), Requiem for a Dream, or Finding Forrester. But except for the last 2, this list is pretty firm.

I also must gove props to Blood Simple, the re-release of the year!!!

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Aaron, sounds like you are an Enzian Theater goer like I am. Unfortunately for me it's a 120 mile round trip.

1. You Can Count on Me
2, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
3. Requiem for a Dream
4. Traffic
5. Croupier
6. Gladiator
7. O Brother Where Art Thou?
8. Almost Famous
9. Dancer in the Dark
10. Judy Berlin

Not seen: Wonder Boys and The House of Mirth that could impact, and a few others that I don't believe would impact my list.
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BTW, I'm almost ready to post my Best of 1999. Where'd that thread go?

Don't worry Darren, I plan to keep this around for most of this year at least. I think we will find it just as interesting to look at come the end of 2001 and we want to go back and look at what we thought. And that will allow people like you to get to see some of these flicks.


As for criticizing lists, that's basically forbidden here and not needed. The whole point is for people to put up what THEY enjoyed the most. The purpose of that is to A put other "Movies" discussions in perspective, ala an equipment list when discussing disc quality and B to simply learn to appreciate how film lovers tastes can very. Maybe something you panned might warrant a second look with some other mindset about it.

The "throw down" title simply means that rather than trash other people's (famous) lists, like Ebert, we would be putting our own lists up. That way when you go into someone else's thread and trash their tastes someone can fairly refer back to your list here, and if one doesn't exist here then maybe that says you are unwilling to put your money where your mouth is.

Despite the fact that in another thread I (very jokingly) said I had half a mind to kill someone who put Mission to Mars at #2 for the year, everyone is welcome to do that very thing here.

The only exceptions might be VERY friendly jabbings or sincere questions about the makeup of the lists. This is not a witch hunt. I want people to feel comfortable in putting up their lists here.

That is also why I fully promote coming back and modifying your list (with a blurb to alert us to a change we might like to take note of). I was completely promoting the EXACT thing that Darren did which is to list the top 10 films you have seen even if some of that list wouldn't normally be on there.


Honestly, I have been surprised by some choices, but I figure there must be something to those choices for someone to put them up there. Not to mention that other members might trust US more than other reviewers and look at the sum total of our lists for some ideas of good films they may have missed (like a Yi Yi). If YOU liked it put it on there, we can trash the film in some other thread, this place is just about the variety of tastes here at HTF.


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Anyway, enough of that unpleasant sidebar on my part.

Just came back from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and I was damn impressed. Love, action, adventure, laughs, tears, oohs and ahhs. It might not be Raiders or Star Wars, but you know I think it is in the ballpark. A great adventure/love story that follows many of the traditions of great western adventure.

I'm not sure how many of those ideals are common in eastern films, but to me only the language and martial arts defined it as being anything other than part of the great line of western adventure movies.

I'll stop, there's a thread for that talk. Here it goes to #1 for me. Snatch tomorrow.

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BTW, I'm almost ready to post my Best of 1999. Where'd that thread go?
well, unfortunately that thread joined the choir Invisible along with most of the other posts from early 2000. I actually saved the results of that thread, but my stupid hard drive crashed. Grumble, grumble.


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I've got to say I'm a bit surprised by your list, Al. I just got nothing out of Tao of Steve.

It does make me wish even harder that Yi Yi would come to town but it wouldn't surprise me if it never does. The last month our art houses have been showing the same things as the multiplexes, CTHD, Traffic, Chocolat, etc.

Did you ever see Requiem? I never saw your thoughts on it on the forum.

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Updated 01/20/01, with more movies I have seen and updated the Top 10 (provisionally).
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Just saw Snatch. Pretty good but not quite as tight a film/script as Lock, Stock... It's tough to fairly judge this film since it's characters, actors, story, style are so familiar from seeing L,S,&2SB 2 or 3 times this last year.

I think if this was Ritchie's first film, it would have had a much bigger impact on me. Never-the-less, it's his second and a little less smoothly interwoven. Although as I've thought about it, it seems to me that this story was much more linear in character lines than circular (many characters are not with us through the whole film, they come and definately go. Lock/Stock sort of brought everyone together at once almost.

Anyway, it's makes my top 10 for sure and I recommend seeing it. Cast Away & Shadow of Vamp are the last 2 films I have to see in the theater, unless I catch a rerelease of Wonder Boys. Like Brook, it might be awhile for me to see Yi Yi, but you guys have my curiousity peaked.

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Finally rounded out a Top 10 list. Does Snatch count as a 2000 release? Even though I enjoyed Snatch (the movie), I can't see putting it on my Top 10 list due to a lack of good character development (though I scored it better then Finding Forrester mainly on entertainment value, which wound up in 10th place on the list, go figure).


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Pat, yep I think Snatch counts as it had an original 2000 release. I for one really enjoyed it, watched it with the regular group of folks who all loved it (this rarely happens!). Breaks into my Top 10, though I still have a few I want to see before I seal the list.
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Okay, Seth, you asked for it and now you got it. Well, still, in my own way. Just look for Charlie Chaplin on the first page of this thread. But as you can see, there are still a lot of movies that I need to see. For now, you get a snapshot.

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My top 10:

1 - Gladiator
2 - The Cell
3 - Titan AE
4 - X-Men
5 - U-571
6 - MI2
7 - Patriot
8 - Frequency
9 - Shanghai Noon
10 - Pitch Black




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Edwin, finally sacked up.

As you can tell from my list, I think you still have some real treats ahead of you. Tastes vary though, so no money-back guarantees.

A word of advice, if you rent Requiem make sure to have something like You Can Count on Me or Oh Brother on deck behind it. Great film but a depressing subject.


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Edwin, finally sacked up.

Well, as you can see, there are still a lot more I need to see - the reason for my initial reluctance in putting up a list. Anyway, like you said, I'm looking forward to the rest of them.


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Don't worry, Seth. I am all set for it. I made it through Leaving Las Vegas without a problem.

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I've got to say I'm a bit surprised by your list, Al. I just got nothing out of Tao of Steve.

I liked it quite a bit, but I wouldn't go to the mat for it (it only made #9 on my list!). After seeing some movies I've missed up till now (O Brother, State and Main, Shadow of the Vampire, etc.), it might well get knocked off the list entirely.

BTW (and this might have surprised you even more), if the last 15-20 minutes of Cast Away (and that goddawful music that kept swelling up once he returned) had been completely excised from the movie, it would've ended up quite high on the list.

But I haven't seen anything this year that touched Dancer in the Dark. For me, there's one truly great film of 2000... and then there's everything else.

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I made it through Leaving Las Vegas without a problem.

Worse. Really. Like Seven without the happy ending.

Hopefully this will get you so ready for depression that the ending won't bum you out so much.

In fact my only rag on this film is that the last act seems unnecessarily cruel on some characters. I wanted to say "OK, I get it, please no more." But it makes an impression. Not a spoiler because if you know it's a bummer and know what the characters are dealing with, then you know it's headed bad.

Beautiful, powerful film though, Burstyn is amazing.


And everybody, not just Edwin. I know that we won't see many of these till much later this year on DVD, so it's ok if your top 10 is Xmen, Grinch, Charlies Angels, and Scary Movie because that's all you saw.

Now if it's because those are really your top 4 after seeing everything...it's welcome too. But try not to stand near me at the next meet.

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I don't even know if Snatch is eligible, but here goes:

1. Snatch
2. Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samarai
3. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
5. Traffic
6. Beautiful People

I didn't see much else in the last year that was worthwhile to me, but I didn't see many films to begin with.
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Alright...I finally get a chance to pump out the ol' top 10...here we go

1. Traffic
2. Wonder Boys
3. Requiem for a Dream
4. Oh Brother, Where Art Though?
5. Almost Famous
6. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
7. You Can Count on Me
8. American Psycho
9. High Fidelity
10. Ghost Dog

Honorable Mentions:
Chuck and Buck
Shadow of the Vampire
Finding Forrester
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Oooppps! Sorry Seth, please see my continuing most updated Top 10 list somewhere in page of this thread.


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I'm a little late to this party, but I still have so many more contenders to see (we've been hurtin' for babysitters, so we HAVE seen every PG-13 and PG film released since before Christmas, just not many "contenders" ).

1. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
2. Sunshine
3. Wonder Boys
4. High Fidelity
5. Chicken Run
6. Almost Famous
7. Best in Show
8. Gladiator
9. Space Cowboys
10.U-571

Yet to see: Traffic, House of Mirth, State & Main, Cast Away, Quills, You Can Count on Me, Before Night Falls, Requiem for a Dream, O Brother Where Art Thou, George Washington.
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Mine's been updated to say that I saw The Gift, The Pledge, and Snatch (though I think The Pledge and Snatch are both 2001 films rather than 2000). In any event, none would crack my top 10 though I did find The Pledge to be quite powerful.

Al, Castaway would shock me, I found it to be mostly a case of restrained Hollywood filmmaking. This story could have been pushed in very interesting directions, but Zemeckis/Hanks chose not to do so.

Next up should be Shadow of the Vampire for me, though I also still need to see State and Main.

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My most memorable cinematic experiences of "big movies" in 2000 (not necessarily the best movies and not necessarily in order):

1. Dancer in the Dark - the trick here - or maybe the evasion - is not to take it at face value. As a straight melodrama it's (some would argue) maddeningly manipulative and pretentious. But for me the tone of the film, the strange beauty it conveyed, seemed to be ripping apart its own standard conventions.

2. High Fidelity - I know both women and men who enjoyed this flick, so I'm not sure it's a gender thing. I'm thinking it's more a lifestyle thing... I love the way it took essentially strange or unlikeable characters and beefed them up, wrapped them in a real story that refused the conventions of a standard freddie prinze jr. romance

3. Almost Famous - some people rip on this for not being "cynical" enough; I say that an autobiographical film, set through the eyes of a naive (if talented) fifteen year-old boy has no place being cynical. Not yet. this is not a film about some "music scene" in the seventies. The background is really secondary to the coming-of-age, which is somewhat formulaic but astonishingly real.

4. Cast Away - alternately reviled and admired, this one did suck me in. Okay, so I didn't like some of the scenes toward the end. But there is a existential sadness and longing dripping from this film that has no right being in a hollywood picture. later missteps seemed unable to shake off this film's gutsy middle act.

5. Requiem for a Dream - not the best film of the year, but a perfect match of style and content. ellen burstyn's performance is not overrated here - she is really amazing.

6. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - here's an analogy: this film is to "Titanic" (by no means a great movie) what the classics of martial-arts cinema are to "a night to remember". This has been criticized by more hardcore purists as cheesy, unrealistic, poorly scripted, poorly acted, etc. but open your heart and stall your disbelief and it's truly breathtaking. to critics of the wire-work: I suggest than Ang Lee was not trying to emulate the gravity-bound wiretechnics of classic martial arts films, but rather to create a dream world. (i.e.: it's not supposed to look real, people.)

7. Fantasia 2000 - I'll be the first to jump on the Disney-bashing Bandwagon. but being a classical music snob and an animation buff, I was completely in bliss for the duration of this film. Okay, so Elgar's marches were disturbingly out-of-place (they apparently went in per Michael Eisner's suggestion)... fantasia was a great idea in the middle of the last century and it's still a great idea. If only it made more money... I want more, dammit!

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Al, Castaway would shock me, I found it to be mostly a case of restrained Hollywood filmmaking. This story could have been pushed in very interesting directions, but Zemeckis/Hanks chose not to do so.

They copped-out at the end. All the wonderful subtleties of the movie were erased by an ending comprised of a ham-handed, sophomorically symbolic series of epiphanies accompanied by that achingly saccarine score - I wasn't the only one in the theater muttering "gimme a break" when Noland sums up his whole experience with that Hallmark card bullshit or when the perfect woman with the quaint truck and fluffy dog meets him at the crossroads...

And what the hell was that about delivering her package being the thing that saved his life? I thought the point of the film was that he realized it was his love for Hunt and all those parts of his life apart from his duties as a Fed-Ex employee that pulled him through? Isn't that the difference between the Noland at the beginning of the film and the Noland after his experience on the island? Why would his delivery of a Fed-Ex package, even one with a neat little drawing on it, be the reason he stuck it out, didn't off himself, and risked a miserable death on the seas in one last-ditch hope of being rescued? Are you saying it wasn't his love for Hunt and the realization of what was truly important in life that saved him and inspired him to go on - rather, it was fulfilling his duties as a Fed-Ex employee? WTF????

But there were so many wonderful, little things up to that point. I loved the way Zemeckis chose to portray the coming-home scene, with the inevitable big celebration seen after the fact and only on a tiny TV screen in the background. I think any other Hollywood filmmaker would've felt obliged to strike up the band and do a big rousing version of that homecoming celebration, but Zemeckis understood that this couldn't be the focus of the film at that point - it had to stay with Noland, it had to stay internal - it was his reaction, the look in his eyes, his somber demeanor in striking contrast to all the hoopla, that was the important shot.

Likewise, I loved the reunion between he and Hunt. I thought their body language was perfect and the dialog was very nicely observed (Hunt constantly trying to minimize the harm of her picture-perfect life being thrust in Hanks' face: 'It's quite a house'. 'It's quite a mortgage, too'. 'Your children are beautiful'. 'They're a handful'.) And when Hunt came running out to the car doing that little wave thing with her hand, like a cross between a revealing 'Wait, wait, it's really me now, ready to open up to you!' and a practical 'roll down that window - don't leave me so abruptly (like at the airport)!'

If they'd ended the film at the point where he returns to his friend's house before he delivers that 'never know what the tide will bring in' line in important, this-is-the-moral-of-the-story sounding tones, it would have been well up the list of my favorites. At that point, we understand his loss. We understand that, after all he's been through and all he's come to understand, that he will go on. They could've mirrored those shots over the dinner table at the beginning of the film when Zemeckis trains his camera deep into the eyes of Hanks and Hunt - we understand what they're thinking without them telling us. By trying to force it all into a Hallmark card sentiment (and then extending that with some truly simple-minded symbolism), the scope and majesty of his experience seems reduced and trivialized.

I left the theater demoralized, wondering why Zemeckis seemed to not trust the audience to understand and be fulfilled by an ending that's more graceful, quiet and subtle - an ending befitting the rest of the film.

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Al,

I agree that the end of Cast Away came as a severe thud after what came before.

I think the artist's FedEx package "saved his life" because he took the idea of wings from the box and made his impromptu sail from the half a port-a-john that got him off the island. Zemeckis, completely unable to make a subtle point in this movie, even had Hanks paint the wings on his "sail." Just my take....

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Here is mine, in general, but not specific order. I would put Traffic at the top right now, but that's because I saw it last. Any of the first four could be number 1. Or maybe any movie on the list can. It all depends on the day, the mood. I'm sure I'm forgetting something from the spring anyway.

Almost Famous
Croupier
High Fidelity
Traffic
Nowhere to Hide
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
You Can Count on Me
The Taste of Others (Le Goût des autres)
Faithless
State and Main

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House of Mirth
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Hmmmm. That's a very interesting observation, Rob.

I know he was drawn to the drawing, but I thought it was just because there was a 'human touch' to it that the other packages didn't possess which was sorta inspirational in a general, life-affirming sense (angel-like, and all). I didn't make the connection that the 'wings' inspired using the port-o-let for a sail. If that's what he meant when he (wrote?) that it saved his life, then I don't find that sentiment so distressing. I mean, it has to be that, doesn't it? Otherwise, wouldn't it seem to undermine everything that came before?

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A helpful hint if you want some help making a list or making sure not to forget anything.

Go to IMDb and look up 2000, then view it by both Most Votes and Best Rating. That, at least, might assure you that you have included every good 2000 film that you saw. I can certainly see how a smaller film from Spring might get lost in the Oscar rush period.


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Hey Seth

Any way you can compile a total as to the films with the most top 10 votes?

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