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i don't get into early adoption cause i can't afford it to begin w/... but BD is the DREAM home video format that i've been waiting for since early 90s =).
i now have 4 BD players & 300+ titles =). my experience is that standalone
DaveF,
if you are buying new hardware today, it'll work. most of the HDCP handshake issues have been resolved afaik. the issues you read about are just a handful of peepz. my experiences have been pretty bug free even since the format's inception.
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DaveF 
Thanks, and I can appreciate the reality that specs and features are a moving target. That is relatively new for home audio.
But I'm also anxious about whether stuff simply works. I see a lot of comments about Blu Ray players that can't actually play Blu Ray discs, that have inexplicable pauses, that can't pick up in the middle of a disc after stopping the way a DVD does, and stable HDMI connections. Similar concerns exist for new receivers. I do think it's not unreasonable to expect to buy a device ready for "prime time".
That said, my impression is that stuff works pretty well now. Though if I really wanted bug free, I'd wait another year :)
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Unfortunately, Microsoft legitimized "selling a pig in a poke". Now, everyone's doing it. I STOPPED early adoption. If Sony and the rest can't finish a design before they start selling it, then count me out.
Companies have been releasing products too early for years. I never did early adoption. Not just because I was afraid things wouldn't work right but because I wanted to wait for the price to come down. That's why I hope there are many others who do want to buy things when they first come out. I'll let them be the ones to deal with what doesn't work at first, and pay the price. But BR, and hdmi, are still evolving and probably will for quite a while. And a lot of the problems have to do with the software not the hardware. But at this point I think BR is a safe bet. Maybe
everything won't work as advertised but enough of it will, and work very well, that it's worth the risk.
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Would you allow a car company to sell you a car that is an anchor after 2-3 years?
We did. Several times. Remember the Edsel and the Vega and the Yugo and the (stay tuned
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But I'm also anxious about whether stuff simply works. I see a lot of comments about Blu Ray players that can't actually play Blu Ray discs, that have inexplicable pauses, that can't pick up in the middle of a disc after stopping the way a DVD does, and stable HDMI connections. Similar concerns exist for new receivers. I do think it's not unreasonable to expect to buy a device ready for "prime time".
I've had 3 BR players so far. A Samsung 1400, a Pioneer 51 and the OPPO 83. The 1400 had problems playing a couple of discs like Iron Man but a firmware solved the problem. I sold it to get the Pioneer. The Pioneer and OPPO have been trouble free so far.
The main issue now seems to be streaming video, like Netflix. Apparently sometimes the player can't keep up and has to pause for a moment. And the video quality isn't always up to par, or so I've read.
"Everyday room": Mitsubishi 52631 RPTV, H/K 520, H/K dvd-5, H/K 8380, H/K CDR 20, OPPO BDP-83 BluRay player, Dish-HD, Infinity Beta 20's-C250-OWS1's, Dayton HSU10.
"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65HM167 RPTV, Pioneer Elite 59txi, Elite DV59avi, Elite CD-59, Pioneer PD-51FD BR, Dish-DVR, Swan Diva...
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I've been fixated on getting a Blu Ray with 5.1 analog output. But can I use a Blu Ray player with coax digital out into an older receiver that does Dolby Digital and DTS?
Yes you can. In fact, I have both my BR players connected with 7.1 analog and Toslink/Coax. I use the analogs for Hi-Res BR and the Toslink/Coax for everything else.
"Everyday room": Mitsubishi 52631 RPTV, H/K 520, H/K dvd-5, H/K 8380, H/K CDR 20, OPPO BDP-83 BluRay player, Dish-HD, Infinity Beta 20's-C250-OWS1's, Dayton HSU10.
"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65HM167 RPTV, Pioneer Elite 59txi, Elite DV59avi, Elite CD-59, Pioneer PD-51FD BR, Dish-DVR, Swan Diva...
