Major update to Carbon Copy Cloner

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9/23/09 at 3:50am

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Fantastic new features!
http://www.bombich.com/ccc_features.html

Now allows easy 'bit level' copies of hard disks, should make for easy imaging of drives with Boot Camp partitions.

Will test it personally this weekend

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9/23/09 at 5:14am

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Can I use CCC to back up my BootCamp (Windows) partition?

Backing up non-HFS+-formatted volumes is not currently supported. I am investigating how to provide this support in a future release.

Er damn =(

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9/23/09 at 9:43am

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That's what Winclone is for.

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9/23/09 at 8:10pm

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Of course, and it's my tool of choice for that job. But being able to do both at once would be something even better!

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9/24/09 at 8:16am

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I am shortly going to need either CCC or SuperDuper, as I am going to swap the boot disk on my MacPro for a higher capacity disk. Which of the two should I get?

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9/24/09 at 10:04am

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I love both but use CCC more

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9/24/09 at 10:53am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Posten

I love both but use CCC more

Any particular reason?

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9/24/09 at 6:52pm

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It was easy to set up my automated nightly backups.

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9/26/09 at 5:36am

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I paid for SuperDuper! (two copies for home) and like it. I think when I was looking it had better info about its features and possibly was upgraded to 10.5 before CCC. I've been impressed by the support as well. I've emailed SuperDuper! several times about small and large questions and received personal responses within minutes in most cases and always within a day.

So I like SuperDuper! And it has a very useful free / unregistered mode.

But I have only heard good things about CCC and it is completely free.

You can't go wrong with either one.

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9/26/09 at 6:00am

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Good to hear! My 2TB WD Caviar Black disk to replace the 640GB stock boot drive on the MacPro is on its way. My disk space need grows faster than Tribbles.

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9/26/09 at 12:16pm

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I never used Carbon Copy but am a huge fan of SuperDuper.
Has saved my butt many times. Very easy to use and a
guarantee that once you do an initial backup you can easily
restore.

Only problem I find is that with the new versions of the
SuperDuper software they require a firewire drive to restore.
That wasn't always the case, and I hope I am wrong that
its the only option now.

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9/26/09 at 2:25pm

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SuperDuper works fine with USB drives.

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9/26/09 at 2:59pm

Ronald Epstein
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Dave,

Not 100% certain about that.

When I upgraded my desktop to Snow Leopard I decided
to go back to Leopard.

Using the new Snow Leopard compatible version of Super
Duper I attempted a bootup from my USB external. It would
not recognize the USB and asked for a firewire connection
instead.

I actually had to copy everything from my external USB
to an external FIREWIRE drive in order to do the restore.

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9/26/09 at 3:20pm

Ronald Epstein
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You know what? I was interested to see if I was right
or wrong --- and guess what --- I was wrong.

Here is the response I just received from the software
author:

From: Shirt Pocket Support [

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:17 PM

To: Epstein, Ronald JSubject: Re: (Case 103607) Support Request

No, Ron: SuperDuper! works fine with FireWire and USB drives. Given what you've said, you didn't boot from the drive.

Instead, you held down "T", which turns your Mac into a FireWire drive, which is why it showed the FireWire symbol.

To start up from an external drive, you need to hold down Option/Alt when powering on.

--

Dave Nanian

Shirt Pocket

mailto:support@shirt-pocket.com]

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9/26/09 at 3:39pm

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And that's what I was saying about SD! tech support

Glad you got it sorted. The Mac boot key options are not obvious.

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9/26/09 at 4:05pm

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Ron, I was going to say, I have booted from a usb backup created with SD, but it wasn't in SL. Glad you got it sorted out

FWIW, you can also select the usb drive in "Startup Disk" in System Preferences, select the desired drive and click "Restart".

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9/26/09 at 4:15pm

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I have talked to Dave at Shirt Pocket software on many
occasions. When I first got SuperDuper I was still a Mac
newbie and he really took the time to answer my inquiries.

I have used backup software on Windows (Acronis) and
it's so much simpler to use on the Mac side. It's just a
matter of copying all the folders to one drive and back to
another without having to worry about registry entries and
such.

Good Lord I love my Mac.

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9/26/09 at 4:54pm

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I've only used SD! for bootable clones -- a regular snapshot of my system in case of disaster or doing a major reinstall.

Have you used it for targeted backups or other ways? I'm going to have a spare 500GB drive shortly and need to find a use for it :)

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9/26/09 at 5:40pm

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Ron, or whoever, I am curious about the earlier comment regarding backing up the Windows portion of a drive. I use Parallels and SD backs it up just like any Mac volume, but it is really just a big file on a regular Mac volume. I have used it to restore a volume with Parallels on it. I'm just not clear how Boot Camp differs from Parallels and if SD can be used to backup and restore a Boot Camp partition.

FWIW, I use SD to back up several volumes, not just bootable ones. I have the habit of keeping one volume or partition with nothing but the OS and apps, and other volumes with only files. I designate certain volumes to be backed up and others (with large temporary files) to not be backed up. Generally I have four volumes mounted on my desktop. The OS & Apps, the other volume with critical files that is backed up and the one which isn't, plus one networked volume that contains all my music files, which also gets backed up periodically after I add stuff. The volumes I back up to are always turned off when not being backed up, as an additional level of security against any kind of catastrophic lightning strike. We do have rather violent weather in Colorado, and it is a genuine risk.

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9/26/09 at 6:50pm

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Are you saying SuperDuper now copies bootable bootcamp windows volumes or is what you are saying specific to an emulated OS? So far as I knew only Winclone allowed that, and it works flawlessly.

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9/26/09 at 7:06pm

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I think he's saying SuperDuper! backs up a normal Parallels virtual disk, which is "merely" a great big file ( and not a BootCamp partition used in conjuction with Parallels, that you'd like to do).

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9/26/09 at 7:21pm

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I was asking if SD works with a Boot Camp partition, and commenting that is does work with a parallels virtual disk.

I'm guessing no on 1. Big plus to stay with Parallels for me.

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9/27/09 at 5:40am

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According to a 2006 comment, SuperDuper will only copy HFS+ partitions, and so can't copy BootCamp partitions. If this is an important question, a quick email to Shirt Pocket support will get a definitive answer.

Since I use Parallels with BootCamp, I've used WinClone to make a recovery image of the installation. To keep my data safe, I save my little bit of Windows-app data on the OS X drive so SuperDuper and TimeMachine back it up.

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9/30/09 at 12:56pm

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Used CCC this morning, booted off the clone, no issues. SImple straightforward, free, recommended.

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9/30/09 at 6:21pm

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Word =)

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