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Help figuring connection -- TV, Blue Ray, TiVo

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8/23/09 at 5:43pm
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 I'm replacing some components of an AV system that's 10 years old. I checked in here and got advice to keep my Yamaha RX-V300 to power my speakers, and to buy a high-end Blue Ray to do the video decoding and to feed a new LCD TV (bright room).

We would also like to replace our VDR with a TiVo unit and put decoders from our cable company in them. I'm a little confused about how this will work. Where does the cable input go, and how do the Blue Ray and TiVo work together?

I know that I will send an analog feed of the audio to the Yamaha, but how will I connect the HDMI cables? How many will I need?
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8/23/09 at 9:31pm
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From your older post you had the RX-V3000, dropped a zero there ...

The Blu-ray and TivoHD are separate, they don't interact with each other at all.  The cable line goes into the back of the Tivo.  One multistream cablecard (or 2 single stream, if multistream unavailable) from the cable company slides into a slot in the front of the Tivo.  You can optionally split the cable line & run it also into the back of your TV, to cover very rare instances where you want to watch a third channel live while the Tivo records two other programs, or just skip this if you don't think that scenario likely.

You would connect HDMI cables directly from the Blu-ray & the Tivo to the display.  For the audio, from the Blu-ray you'd connect the analog multi-ch outs.  For the Tivo you'd use optical to an optical input.
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8/24/09 at 3:32am
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You are very thorough. Yes, it's the Yamaha RX-V3000.

I'm going to show my lack of knowledge here. There was a discussion about the Blu-ray handling the video decoding function that is now handled by the Yamaha, in order to avoid having to get a stand-alone video processor. How would that work with the connections you describe?
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8/24/09 at 1:04pm
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There was a discussion about the Blu-ray handling the video decoding function that is now handled by the Yamaha, in order to avoid having to get a stand-alone video processor. How would that work with the connections you describe?

Huh?  I think your previous thread was about the Blu-ray handling audio decoding, to avoid having to get a new receiver.  It decodes the audio and outputs via multi-ch analog (6-8 RCA outs) and plugs into the corresponding jacks on your existing receiver.  The "analog multi-ch" I mentioned earlier.

Video is decoded in the player & sent by HDMI to the TV.  No standalone video processor is ever necessary.  Expensive standalone video processors are typically used by people with huge front projection setups (120" +) trying to wring every last ounce of quality out of standard DVD & TV broadcasts, but is unneeded with 1080p Blu-rays, and overkill for standard DVD on a typical LCD set.  The video processor could well cost more than the set!

Also AV receivers don't "decode" video, that's always in the player.  New ones these days often have built-in video processing chips, that "deinterlace and scale" (aka "upscaling").  But this is redundant to video processing in the players and in the TV, so when you have an old receiver like yours, you just bypass the receiver.  Even with a new receiver, the processing is often sub-par, so you turn it off and just send the video straight through anyway, just using it to simplify switching.

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8/25/09 at 4:58am
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 Wow! I learned a ton from that reply, including how much I don't know. It certainly clears up my misconceptions, and then some. Thanks.
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