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8/19/09 at 8:47am
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Hey guys - I am building a house with a medium sized bonus room and need a new TV to showcase the room. I have previously owned a DLP (loved it - no rainbows), a 60hz 720p LCD, and most recently bought my wife a 52" Sammy 1080p LCD with 120hz. The picture on the 52" is incredible with HD & BluRay sources with the exception of some artifacting with fast moving images. It's like there is digital noise all around the fast moving object over the fixed background. It is rather annoying and takes away from the experience.

So - I have done a bit of looking around and think a plasma might be a good choice for me. I know there were issues with plasmas for burn-in but I won't have any static images so that should not be a factor. Also, I live within a couple hundred feet of sea level so altitude also is not an issue. I have never owned a plasma so really want to find out from you guys what your experiences are. I play alot of video games (PS3 & Xbox 360), watch Blu-Ray, and watch tons of HD sports. I've heard plasmas have excellent black level reproduction and do not suffer from motion blur effects that LCDs do. Is this all true? Any insight you guys can proovide would be appreciated!

Just to let you know - I have looked around and found a few plasmas that seem to be good fits for me. I want a 60" or larger screen and have found 2 that seem to offer a bunch. Let me know what you think -

63" Samsung (PN63B590T5), 600hz, 1080p
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9315564&type=product&id=1218085600597

65" Panasonic (TC-P65V10), 600hz, 1080p
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9396496&type=product&id=1218112405076


Thanks in advance!

GJ
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8/19/09 at 9:20am
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http://hdguru.com/the-new-king-of-hdtv-displays-panasonics-tc-p54v10-reviewed/458/
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8/19/09 at 12:13pm
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Thanks for the link. It appears the Panasonic would be a really good choice if I were to go the route of a plasma.

But can anyone speak to their experiences/preferences between plasma sets and LCD in terms of picture quality and usage based on what I detailed in my OP? Thanks!

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8/20/09 at 4:29am
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Your assumptions match the general concensus.  Other generalities are that plamsa use more power and generate more heat and that LCDs are brighter and thus better for overly bright rooms. 

Worry over burn-in is overblown.  The one case where I'd stil lbe concerned is with games.  And in that regard I'm curious why you say you won't have static images but you play a lot of video games.  Seems contradictory. 
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8/20/09 at 7:21am
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The picture on the 52" is incredible with HD & BluRay sources with the exception of some artifacting with fast moving images. It's like there is digital noise all around the fast moving object over the fixed background. It is rather annoying and takes away from the experience.

Are you sure that DNR and all the other picture "enhancements" are set to "off"? What you're describing sounds to me like it could be the effects of noise reduction.

And for what it's worth, as someone who's owned both plasma and LCD sets, I think the differences between them are grossly exaggerated. Yes, they have different strengths and weaknesses, but if you have a good LCD already, I don't think you're going to be blown away by a plasma.

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8/20/09 at 9:03am
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Your assumptions match the general concensus.  Other generalities are that plamsa use more power and generate more heat and that LCDs are brighter and thus better for overly bright rooms. 

Worry over burn-in is overblown.  The one case where I'd stil lbe concerned is with games.  And in that regard I'm curious why you say you won't have static images but you play a lot of video games.  Seems contradictory. 
 


Well, the games that I play do not maintain static images on the screen for very long. I'm not a FPS gamer who plays Halo for 6 hours straight, but rather play sports games that are over in 45 minutes so burn-in is not an issue with my gaming habits.

That aside, you mentioned that you would still be concerned with games on a plasma - why is that? Thx!
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8/21/09 at 4:00am
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That aside, you mentioned that you would still be concerned with games on a plasma - why is that?
 


Nothing that's particularly insightful, just the basic fear - plasma is phosphour based and phospors age.  So a prolonged image *could* set.  I'm not a fanatic about this, it's just games that get me nervous.  45 minutes is not that long, so I can see why you wouldn't be nervous.  I'd still consider how often you go back and forth between games (particularly a single specific game) and basic video.  If you do switch back and forth, I'd worry even less.

Personally, I get LCDs for my game systems.  I don't need a huge screen nor do I need great sound, so I have a lessor receiver on one game system and none on the other.  Plus it separates the videa and games systems so both can be used at the same time.  (My son and I vie for the equipment.)
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10/22/09 at 7:35pm
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Hi John,

 

I'm in the process of choosing between these exact two TVs as well. It looks like the Samsung is now 1k cheaper than the Panasonic. Can you tell us which TV you decided to go with and why?

 

If the Samsung is a good buy, I don't see why I'd need to go with the Panasonic... even though the brand  gets a ton of respect when it comes to Plasmas.

Thanks John,

John

 

 

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