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8/19/09 at 12:51pm
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Off hand, I'm not sure of any other places it does anything with the context menu. Is there any besides the reply box one?

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8/19/09 at 3:12pm
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Actually, I almost never use that dropdown.  Usually, I prefer to not go to a section of the forum if there's nothing new there, which I can't tell from the dropdown -- maybe if it was enhanced to indicate the existence of new posts, I'd use it.  Also, I'd like to be able to mark a section read when I'm done, which I cannot currently do (just for a specific section) unless I first navigate higher up in the forums hierarchy -- IMHO, there really should be a "mark current (sub)forum read" function as I (and a few others) mentioned before.

That plus I guess I just don't create new threads often enough to regularly wanna jump into a section w/out any new posts there.

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But I don't see how your proposal allows you to see if there were any new posts in a given section, either. 

How DO you normally navigate the forum, Man?    Enquiring minds want to know....  
 

Basically, I just go back to the top forums page whenever I'm done w/ a (sub)forum section, and then, mark all remaining unread posts as read from there.  From there, I then look for some other (sub)forum of interest w/ new posts.

Since navigating higher up (like to the top forums page) is necessary in order to mark a specific (sub)forum as read *AND* also to see which other (sub)forum has new posts, the dropdown (as it exists now) is pretty useless to me most of the time.

*IF* there was a "mark current (sub)forum read" function, then that would give me one less reason to need to jump higher up (to the top forums page).  And if the dropdown also indicated whether new posts exist for each section on top of me being able to mark current (sub)forum read, *THEN* the dropdown would become much more useful to me -- I would rarely need to go higher up in that case.

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8/19/09 at 4:37pm
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If thread-specific search is added, the search results need to be given more detail especially including which forum they came from.

I'm looking for the PS3 thread in the HD Hardware forum and it's futile. I search for PS3 and I get 3000+ threads from all over the forum. The search results give no details and I can't tell what forum they're from, so I don't know which is the needle in that haystack. 
Shhhh....don't tell anyone but thread specific search has been ticketed and is in the feature roadmap queue.

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Hmmm...  No more jump-scrollling after reply/edit submit??  Oops!  Spoke too soon.  Guess that fix didn't make it into the recent site software update.  

But it made it into todays

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The huddler software doesn't disable context menus anywhere, does it? I thought it simply replaced the context menu with their own in a few cases. For example, if I right-click on text in the reply box (or on the same line as the insertion point) I get a custom context menu with just Cut, Copy, and Paste. But if I click anywhere else (even in the reply box), I get the standard IE context menu.

Off hand, I'm not sure of any other places it does anything with the context menu. Is there any besides the reply box one?

 You are correct Bill.  As I understand it, it just replaces the context menu for easier editing.  It does it every place the full text editor is used: forum posts, private messaged, reviews and wikis.



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 You are correct Bill.  As I understand it, it just replaces the context menu for easier editing.  It does it every place the full text editor is used: forum posts, private messaged, reviews and wikis.
But why? Context menus already have those functions? Replacing expected behavior with nonstandard behavior is confusing. And it breaks expected (useful) features, like spell checking.

Or worse, you get two menus at once, as I now do in FF 3.5 in OS X.
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That is what I was thinking. Regular forum members (and some irregular ones) might know to change their browser settings, but how will visitors and new members know to do that? I have been active during the whole change and I just found out yesterday what to do.
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The huddler software doesn't disable context menus anywhere, does it? I thought it simply replaced the context menu with their own in a few cases. For example, if I right-click on text in the reply box (or on the same line as the insertion point) I get a custom context menu with just Cut, Copy, and Paste. But if I click anywhere else (even in the reply box), I get the standard IE context menu.

That's the thing.  It replaces em with cut copy and paste, but paste at least isn't actually allowed.  Tis baffling to me =)  Maybe they are trying to prevent people from right clicking and copying images?  Even that is easily defeated tho.  And it removes the real functionality present in right mouse menus and kills advanced browser tools (and OS tools totally on the Mac) to do it.

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I'll see if Cristina can address some of these questions as I don't have/use FireFox.  I do know that not not all options are on the toolbar.  Like Mike's example above.  You can add a table from the toolbar, but if you want to edit it you need to right click.

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That's the thing.  It replaces em with cut copy and paste, but paste at least isn't actually allowed.  Tis baffling to me =)  Maybe they are trying to prevent people from right clicking and copying images?  Even that is easily defeated tho.  And it removes the real functionality present in right mouse menus and kills advanced browser tools (and OS tools totally on the Mac) to do it.
 

Again I don't ahve your setup (Vista w/ IE 8), but I can copy and paste with the Huddler menu inside on the text fields and with the "regular" IE8 menu outside of the text areas.  For instance I can click on your Avatar or any of the banner ads or even Mike's embedded pic above and get an option to Save Picture As.  There has never been any discussion about limiting image use, we actually have a lot more ways to interact with images here than we did on Vb. 

There has never been any discussion about limiting image use, we actually have a lot more ways to interact with images here than we did on Vb. ----Yes this last line is a duplicate.  I used the context menu to copy and paste it.  I'm not sure why you are getting not allowed Sam.




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There has never been any discussion about limiting image use, we actually have a lot more ways to interact with images here than we did on Vb. ----Yes this last line is a duplicate.  I used the context menu to copy and paste it.  I'm not sure why you are getting not allowed Sam.
Rewriting / disabling the context menu was a common (and ineffective) attempt to block users from copying images from websites. So I think Sam was just guesing  that Huddler was intending some goofy image-protection scheme.
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FYI
 Last night and this morning I am getting this error message when I use the new posts button. The whole page is fine except where the post belong

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Rewriting / disabling the context menu was a common (and ineffective) attempt to block users from copying images from websites. So I think Sam was just guesing  that Huddler was intending some goofy image-protection scheme.

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Rewriting / disabling the context menu was a common (and ineffective) attempt to block users from copying images from websites
 

That's a silly thing to do. Ineffective is an understatement. A simple screen capture could get around that in a second.

Incidentally I tested the paste command for the above quote to see how it worked. IE8 prompts me if I want to allow this application to use the clipboard. Makes sense based on standard security reasons. If I don't accept, then I get another dialog where I can paste text which is then submitted to the page. I also get the same dialog if press Ctrl-V instead of the context menu. I don't know offhand if that's standard for the browser or because the page as Ctrl-V shortcut overriden. Anyone know?

Honestly other than perhaps for the table editing, I don't see a need to for the context menu. The browser's built-in cut, copy, paste should work just fine, wouldn't it? A possible exception maybe is that the overriden paste is able to preserve the embedded HTML encoding for more complex things than simple text. Don't know.
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Well, a quick test suggests that the shortcut keys are not overriden. Pressing Ctrl-c for copy or ctrl-x for cut performs the expected commands immediately. But, if use the shortcut menu for copy or cut, then I get the security warning about clipboard access. However, pressing Ctrl-V I do get the security warning. Perhaps paste is overriden, but not cut and copy. Interesting...
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Hehheh...

Hmmm...  No more jump-scrollling after reply/edit submit??  Oops!  Spoke too soon.  Guess that fix didn't make it into the recent site software update.

 

But it made it into todays


Hmmm...  Did it now?

Looks like it did.  Thanks!

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FYI
 Last night and this morning I am getting this error message when I use the new posts button. The whole page is fine except where the post belong 

Dave- This should have been fixed this morning.  It works for me and I want to verify that it is working for you.

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8/21/09 at 3:52am
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Yes, all is working here too.
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We are shutting this thread down and moving all the enhancement request to a new forum area.  Please make any new enhancment requests in the new forum: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/list/53676 

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