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6/25/09 at 6:34am
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Re: Blu-ray and Apple

we've already shot over 6,000 images (avg 30mbs per tif) this year and thats just whats been picked and shipped to the separator. When you count in all the multi poses from location shots that number gets even bigger. Anything stored on the network gets backed up along with the corporate nightlies and weeklies.

What i burn to dvd is just the picks thats been put into our database because those only reside as rgbs on our server in about a 3 month rotation. now all of our cmyk's are stored on another system and never rotate out. But i have had to go back to a original rgb that was shot over a year ago to reprocess and having those on dvds in the rack in the old film storage room is a massive time saver, and tons cheaper than just adding more and more space to the san. I just looked and i have 400 back up cds and 243 dvds and all those are replicated at the off site too. Thats just from the about the last 7 years.
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6/25/09 at 9:19am
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Re: Blu-ray and Apple

Craig,

Will these BD burners work with a Mac?

As for playback purposes do the graphic cards in the Mac Pro
and iMacs support BD playback?
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6/25/09 at 10:39am
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Craig,

Will these BD burners work with a Mac?

As for playback purposes do the graphic cards in the Mac Pro
and iMacs support BD playback?
Not Craig, but the answers are yes and no respectively. Toast will let you burn BDs using third party burners (don't know if Roxio lists which models it supports, might want to check their website before buying).

However there is no current way to playback *commercial* BDs in Mac OS X.
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6/25/09 at 11:00am
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Yes the new MacPro video cards support HDCP and you can put a 3rd Party Blu ray Burner in a mac pro for as cheap as $200. Toast Titanium supports burning your own BluRay deck playable disks as do several other manufacturers but there is no software on the mac platform that will allow you to play back a BluRay ROM at all. Even OSX Leopard itself has most of the pieces but they are not all together yet to do so.

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6/25/09 at 3:46pm
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Re: Blu-ray and Apple

Ron, Other World Computing (macsales.com) has a whole page of Blu-Ray drives, both internal and external. They all should work with a Mac.

But yeah, no commercial BD playback on the Mac as yet, because they haven't licensed the technology. This was what Jobs was referring to with his "bag of hurt" comment last year.
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6/25/09 at 7:26pm
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But yeah, no commercial BD playback on the Mac as yet, because they haven't licensed the technology. This was what Jobs was referring to with his "bag of hurt" comment last year.
I tend to interpret the bag of hurt as the required, deep in the OS "secure path" HDCP nonsense, not the cost of licensing. I always thought that at least some of Vista's performance issues stemmed from having built in BD HDCP, and Apple wants no part of that -- now or ever. Please correct me if I don't have my facts straight.
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6/26/09 at 5:57am
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The HDCP path through the OS is already implemented, as evidenced by the guys who had trouble with the new Macbooks to an external device that is not HDCP protected like the 24" LED display:
Faster Forward - Apple's DRM Breaks MacBook Movie-Download Viewing

Apple brings HDCP to a new aluminum MacBook near you - Ars Technica

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6/26/09 at 10:24am
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Re: Blu-ray and Apple

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The HDCP path through the OS is already implemented, as evidenced by the guys who had trouble with the new Macbooks to an external device that is not HDCP protected like the 24" LED display:
Faster Forward - Apple's DRM Breaks MacBook Movie-Download Viewing

Apple brings HDCP to a new aluminum MacBook near you - Ars Technica
Yes, all Display Port equipped Macs support HDCP (which means all new Macs), and the iTunes HD downloads are definitely HDCP encoded. But all you sure this is the same as the end to end "secure path" demanded by the Blu-ray crowd?
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6/26/09 at 12:13pm
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Yes, by definition.
High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You may be confusing it with TCP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing

To my knowledge BluRay is not a TCP platform but I have not researched it. TCP is worse than DRM, in it your computer conspires against your freedoms. And yes, unfortunately I do own several computers that adhere to it (Win 7)... I hope this dies before DRM does.

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