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JohnRice
- John Rice
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Re: Home Theater ?
Small speakers never pack power. Actually, only powered speakers pack power at all, but that's another issue. That SVS set is a real deal. They aren't tiny, but tiny speakers sound like they look, tiny. They are small enough.
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- Joined: August 2003
- Location: SF Bay Area
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Re: Home Theater ?
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| So does the Onkyo 607 have a two zone? |
Yes, it has a Zone two. Here's the link to the
Onkyo 607 from their web site. You can download the manual from it.
"Everyday room": Mitsubishi 52631 RPTV, H/K 520, H/K dvd-5, H/K 8380, H/K CDR 20, OPPO BDP-83 BluRay player, Dish-HD, Infinity Beta 20's-C250-OWS1's, Dayton HSU10.
"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65HM167 RPTV, Pioneer Elite 59txi, Elite DV59avi, Elite CD-59, Pioneer PD-51FD BR, Dish-DVR, Swan Diva...
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I won't bore you with extra technical specs because i don't think your HT addiction has come along far enough yet to obsess but with the power that your receiver is going to put out you will have a good sounding system until you are ready to upgrade.
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- Joined: May 2006
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the aversion to HTiB's is mostly about odds, then taste and finally practical reality.
the odds are against the HTiB's in two ways:
1 - a company who focuses on one type of product is much more likely to produce a better product and/ or a better value for that type of product. so an svs, aperion, psb or martin logan is just more likely to produce a superior speaker to a an onkyo, sony or panasonic. that said, if you look at speakers from those big electronics companies over the last 20-30 years there are some great speakers and great values. but there's a whole lot more that would be handily beat by a comparably priced speaker from a speaker company or is just junk.
2 - odds are that the people who post on here could think of 3 systems they'd rather listen to than an HTiB of the same price.
as for taste, you could be one of those people who does not hear the difference or does but actually likes or prefers the sound of the HTiB. is spite of all our opinions, there are plenty of people who love their HTiB's and bose systems. this is why it is imperative that you listen to as many things as you can before you buy. let your ears be your guide. you will know what sounds good to you when you hear it.
as for practical reality:
1 - again follow your ears.
2 - speakers have more to do with the sound you hear than any other part of the system so they are where you ought to allocate the majority of your budget assuming getting the best quality sound you can afford is a priority (and you have established that you can hear the difference.)
enjoy
HT: Marantz SR8000, PSB Alpha B fronts, Alpha C center, CSW Newton S200 surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo Sub, Marantz DVD, Sony CRT TV
Stereos include vintage Sony receivers/amps into vintage AR and KEF speakers.
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define "sufficient".
either would be a big upgrade over the speakers that come in a tv. the svs and 607 combo will blow away the HTiB in terms of both volume with clarity and low end extension and power.
that room has a lot of volume for either sub to fill for strong bass. if i were you, i'd go for the svs package with 5.1 and the PB12 over the 7.1 with the PB10. they're basically the same price and if you are interested in loud especially at the low end, the extra sub will add a lot more to your system than the rear surrounds. the rear surrounds are only really relevant for titles that have come out in the last couple of years and even then, many titles don't actually have any specific rear surround content (it is generated by the receiver). you can always add the rear surrounds later and there are many speakers that would do the job adequately for $100/pr or less. of course if you really want the 7.1, you're getting the extra pair of sbs1's for $150 when they're normally over $200/pr.
keep in mind some simple justifying math. you figure this system will give you pleasure for at least five years, it will last much longer but you may have justified upgrading by then. so, five years = 1825 days. so if you go over budget divide the amount over budget by 1825. for example, you decide to spend $300 over your budget. 300/1825=0.16438356 or 16 cents a day! that's nothing! this is how i justified my $600 sub when i was budgeting $300. let me tell you, i'm glad i spent it and i truly believe it was worth every penny. the hardest part is not buying another as it is now available for under $500...
it is a sickness...
HT: Marantz SR8000, PSB Alpha B fronts, Alpha C center, CSW Newton S200 surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo Sub, Marantz DVD, Sony CRT TV
Stereos include vintage Sony receivers/amps into vintage AR and KEF speakers.
