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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Interesting article here on Apple's declining relationship with AT&T.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Bolus
The contract on my original iPhone will be up in August and I'll be upgrading to a 3GS then.
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Originally Posted by Ted Todorov
If you have a first gen iPhone, you can upgrade anytime you want without incurring a penalty -- the original iPhone was not subsidized by AT&T, so it has always been "upgrade eligible".
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Originally Posted by nolesrule
Go anywhere that has some sort of coverage and you can fill in the blanks with any 2 random cellphone carriers.
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Originally Posted by nolesrule
Go anywhere that has some sort of coverage and you can fill in the blanks with any 2 random cellphone carriers.
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Originally Posted by LarryH
Man, I keep wanting to get an iPhone, but there's always a reason "just around the corner" to wait a bit. Of course, not being an AT&T customer, this has become a greater and greater concern as a problem. Maybe around the next corner Verizon will be an option....
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Originally Posted by Carlo Medina
No doubt true. But since I'm primarily concerned about myself, that's really irrelevant to me.
Seriously I would change carriers except: 1. Family is on AT&T 2. Girlfriend is on AT&T 3. Closest friends I talk to most are on AT&T 4. iPhone is AT&T 5. 15% off of AT&T service due to job Monetarily it would not make sense to switch because I get free minutes with those I talk to the most and it would be a considerable amount to switch plans, not to mention the loss of the job discount. PS - Thanks for your sympathy Dave |
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Originally Posted by DaveF
Not I. I've never had bad coverage with Verizon. NY through to Indiana, to Tennessee. Los Angeles. Cabo San Lucas. Toronto and Ottawa. Always got "bars". There's someone to hate everything. But customer surveys consistently rank Verizon above AT&T, just as they rank Apple above all the PC makers. I won't tout V as unfallable -- I've had my gripes -- but it's incorrect to just wave away AT&T grumblings as equivalent to the grumbling about the other carriers.
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Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
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Originally Posted by LDfan
To be fair to AT&T these problems would have happened to any other carrier had Apple signed with. I don't think AT&T (or Apple) ever imagined the strain on the wireless network that the iphone can use.
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Regards,
Brian W. Ralston
| But the senators found it difficult to see why a phone maker wouldn’t prefer to sell to all customers of all the carriers. |
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Originally Posted by Ted Todorov
Just keep in mind that that next corner is most likely 24 months from now. 12 at the earliest, but IMO very unlikely.
Both Verizon and Apple have publicly stated that there will be no CDMA iPhone. That means that when the Verizon iPhone is released Verizon's LTE network will have to be *completely* rolled out and I don't see that happening before 2011 at the earliest. The most likely scenario, is that Apple lets the AT&T exclusivity deal expire in June 2010, adds T-Mobile as a carrier in the fall of 2010, and Verizon in summer 2011 or 2012 when the iPhone 4G (LTE) is released. Sprint never, unless they do a 180 and drop WiMax for LTE -- an extremely doubtful proposition. |
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Originally Posted by Ted Todorov
I think that the badness of AT&T does get exaggerated, and also is very dependent on local conditions.
The most salient question is how good and how soon will AT&T's network improvements be. And if sales of the new iPhones take off, will we have a replay of AT&T's network being brought to its knees after the 3G release last summer. I agree with both LDFan and DaveF: I am convinced that Verizon's vaunted network would have been brought to its knees too by 10 million iPhones. On the other hand AT&T has handled the situation less than optimally. You just need to spend time in Europe and see what good cell phone services really is like to see how much room for improvement AT&T has. |
Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
How many customers does Verizon already have? And how does that really compare to the number of current iPhone users?
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Originally Posted by Shane D
i think there are alot of people like me who are caught in contracts/family plans on verizon or alltel soon to be verizon, that are holding off on any kind of data phone until we can have the iphone. i have a touch and just a normal phone that i've had for the last 2 years and instead of upgrading now, im just gonna make this one last until verizon gets it.
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Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
