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Fakey "video" processing of film, or just bad cable signal?

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4/19/09 at 10:27pm
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I've been noticing for a while that many a movie trailer on TCM has that artificial "video" look. Like someone turned on that motion processing stuff many HDTV sets have now. (I made sure that feature was off on my Samsung.) The movies and other programs on TCM look fine though.

Right now, I'm watching an episode of The Munsters on WGN, and it's got that same fake video look going. Really hideous to see. Any idea what could be causing this? Mind you, I'm still watching analog signals.

EDIT: Dusted off the old standard def family Sony CRT to compare, and it looks normal, as does another older HDTV in the house. Must be the new tv choking on something it doesn't like!
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4/19/09 at 10:52pm
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Re: Fakey "video" processing of film, or just bad cable signal?

Can't say for sure, but:

1) You might want to post this in the display forum with your specific model #
2) Samsung has in the past had processing that couldn't be turned off, I have no idea about your set but it sounds suspiciously like that
3) Your test with old Sony CRT seems to confirm it's the Samsung
4) Have recently seen that effect on a family member's new LCD and it was even more annoying than I'd read about, so hope you find a way to get rid of it
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4/20/09 at 1:59pm
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Re: Fakey "video" processing of film, or just bad cable signal?

Thanks for the advice. I watched a different show on WGN on my older Samsung last night, and all the actor's faces were like frozen waxworks that didn't keep up with their movements.
Having viewed all sorts of things on that particular set with no anomalies, I'm more inclined to blame the cable at the moment.
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4/20/09 at 2:14pm
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Re: Fakey "video" processing of film, or just bad cable signal?

If you do determine it's the set, I don't believe there's anything that *can't* be turned off. Check at avsforum.com and I bet there's a section just for your TV. Read through or even ask a question and they'll probably tell you how to access the service menu and turn off the offending setting. BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL if you do this. Write down whatever you change, and read the warnings you will undoubtedly see over there. You don't want to mess up your settings.
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4/20/09 at 2:29pm
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Re: Fakey "video" processing of film, or just bad cable signal?

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Originally Posted by SilverWook
Thanks for the advice. I watched a different show on WGN on my older Samsung last night, and all the actor's faces were like frozen waxworks that didn't keep up with their movements.
Having viewed all sorts of things on that particular set with no anomalies, I'm more inclined to blame the cable at the moment.
That definitely sounds like an issue with the singal...or maybe the connection.

Do you have a splitter? It could possibly be a degradation of the signal. Also, what channel number is TCM? Is it a high number?

Are you also watching this TV with different equipment (as compared to the other TV's that play the channel fine)? For example, are you watching with a DVR? because Hard Drive issues could also show off that 'waxworks' phenom.
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4/20/09 at 9:51pm
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Re: Fakey "video" processing of film, or just bad cable signal?

There may be a splitter somewhere in the pipeline under the house. TCM is 39 on my system, but it's problems crop up only on the trailers since they began boxing them into that frame with shadowy stagehands moving equipment around. I sort of think that effect confuses the tv as to whether it's video or a film image that's being upscaled. Currently it's straight coax out of the wall into the tv. No DVR yet.

My cable system has only gotten more crappy over time. I look at recordings I made 15 years ago, and marvel at the lack of compression artifacts. I suspect they are just going to let the analog channels rot if they don't actually do something by June. So many dishes have popped up around here, it's amazing they are even still in business. The tuner in the new tv picks up a lot of HD channels and stuff I didn't get before, but poor signal strength often ruins the fun.

And thanks for the info Greg, I'll check out that forum. I tweaked my old Sony back in the 90's, so I'm not scared of messing with the service menus. I miss the days when you could just fiddle the knobs and adjust things with a screwdriver though!
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