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Hard to believe that was 33 years ago...
There are some inaccuracies in the piece...but it's always a treat to hear Vin Scully.
www.youtube.com/watch
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Does this sort of thing happen in US baseball? 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article6642133.ece
A cricket umpire got beaned and died from it.
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Dennis Nicholls 
Does this sort of thing happen in US baseball?
If it does, it is incredibly rare. Certainly a few players have died over the years (hence batting helmets, etc.), and I seem to recall a freak accident or two involving foul balls or line drives (mostly in high school, college or minor league games, though, not the majors.) But those, two, involved either players or spectators, not officials. When I did a Google search on "baseball umpire killed" I got a single story related to U.S. baseball -
a New York Times article from
1899. And that was a case where a player attacked and killed the ump for what he thought was a bad call.
(Boy, the game really
has changed.)
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When I did a Google search on "baseball umpire killed" I got a single story related to U.S. baseball -
a New York Times article from
1899. And that was a case where a player attacked and killed the ump for what he thought was a bad call.
(Boy, the game really
has changed.)
Today, that guy would be found innocent by a jury...but get a 400-year suspension from Bob Watson.
The only two US major leaguers to die from injuries received on the field:
Doc Powers and
Ray Chapman
Full disclosure: I had never heard of Doc Powers until I went to retrieve Ray Chapman's wiki page. I always thought Ray Chapman was the only on-field fatality.
I've seen plenty of umpires take some pretty bad foul tips behind-the-plate...to the point of having to leave the game...but nothing like what was described in that article. Which is pretty strange considering the age and health and danger associated with the activity.
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Prediction: The AL will, once again, kick the NL's a$$ in this year's All-Star Game.
AL 11-0-1 vs. the NL since 1997.
And don't get me started on that tie. 
Makes up for all those years when I was a kid... From 1963 to 1982, the junior circuit only came out on top ONCE (1971)! There has been a decided pendulum swing in superiority.
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does anyone know what the AL vs NL interleague record was in NL stadiums?
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And I hear Nomar got a standing O in his first game at Fenway as a visitor.
Despite the best efforts of the schmucks in the Beantown media. Good for him!
They just mentioned that Pedroia's wife is in the hospital because she went into labor yesterday, 7 weeks early. The doctors are working to delay the birth and she told him to go play tonight.
Speaking of on-field deaths, either last year or the year before, a minor-league coach was killed by a foul ball. His name escapes me. There have also been some instances of kids getting killed or seriously injured by line drives hit off metal bats.
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I heard the radio call (of the Nomar ovation) on WRKO as a highlight after the game and I thought it sounded nice and hearty.
But then I got to see a replay (still likely abridged) of the event on SportsCenter today and, my goodness, Nomar stood in the batter's box for what must've seemed like an eternity as the cheers wafted down. Very nice.
How about that story about Jeter and the umpire after the botched call at third base in the first inning of yesterday's Yankee game? "You don't have to be tagged out to be called out."
Looks like it might have actually stirred up a little conflict, though, between Jeter and Girardi.
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Looks like AL: 137 / NL: 114
that's the overall win/loss; i was looking for the record in NL stadiums where there's a level playing field (NL teams have a disadvantage in AL parks since NL DH's are not full time players that are hired as such... (actually the NL obviously has the advantage in NL parks since it's the home park and also NL pitchers are probably slightly better at the plate.
also Blue Jays GM JP Richardi says Halladay is available! will the Sox/Yankees have a bid war or do the Santana thing?
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I think many of the dangers of young people getting hurt on the field come from hits and pitches to the chest area. Ugh. I hate even thinking about it.
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the Red Sox may actually over-bid for Doc just to spite the Yanks for Tex :)
but seriously, Doc joining the Sox rotation? talk about too good to be true (for Sox fans). i'd hold my breath because the universe usually course-corrects and something's bound to happen. :) look at Dice-K :)
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The disadvantages definitely work both ways, so it all evens out.
i'm all for AL superiority, but i'd have to disagree... i think the advantage AL teams have in AL parks far outweighs the advantage that NL teams have in NL parks.
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I'd also opt for the Red Sox to go to a four-man rotation. It can work. I think the tiredness of arms is inflated and exaggerated in today's baseball climate.
Doc is awesome. occasionally the Jays have put him in one or two month stretches where he was in a 4 day rotation. i don't remember if the others also pitched on 3 days rest or if they skipped for Doc :P it was years ago.
but with those 4 guys, why bother with a 4 man rotation? even with a slightly below average 5th starter you'd win the division by a landslide. why put them on short days rest just to pad the lead? :)
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Oh, how I'd love to see a pitcher of Halladay's calibre join the Red Sox. I'd then be satisfied with 70-80% of the rotation, and maybe even higher than that.
Wow, Scott!
With a rotation of Beckett, Halladay, Lester, Wakefield & Matsuzaka/Penny/Smoltz/Buchholz you'd be "satisfied with 70-80% of the rotation?!?"
Have you looked around at what's in the starting rotations for the rest of the teams in baseball? Look at the number of rookies that have pitched against the Red Sox in the past couple of weeks. Most other teams don't have nearly the depth of pitching that the Red Sox do. How greedy would you want to be?
I'm telling you, we should consider our team blessed to have the arms, this year, that it has.
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Well, I'm only optimistic because the new ownership has positioned the team to do well and has made good move after good move.
But I look at those names I listed and think I've got to be 100% pleased with that rotation (in particular, the depth) because I can look at no other rotation in baseball right now that is as stacked with quality arms that are as likely to give quality starts.
This particularly hit me just yesterday when I was reviewing the numbers of the yesterday's starter for the Athletics, Dana Eveland. I was thinking about how happy I was that the Red Sox don't need to rely on someone so unseasoned to start a game right now.
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I tend to think a three-man rotation would be pushing it. That would mean that with four starters, each pitcher would get no more than two+ days rest, excluding the occasional off day. Hmmm. I don't know. Do you think that could work? I like the four-man rotation the best.
? i never mentioned a 3 man rotation.... i think i meant 4 man rotation with 3 day rests.
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in terms of the Halladay sweepstakes, the big teams (Yanks/Sox) are probably hoping the Jays' asking price will be too high, since if they lose Halladay to free agency the Jays get draft picks anyways. then once Doc goes on the open market to the highest bidder, it's a smaller field of suitors. the Yanks will get him since Burnett will probably have some kind of injury by then anyways :P
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