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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

One "extra" that would seem absolutely necessary for Season 5 would be the hour-long "Lucy in London" special.

First of all, a half-hour episode leads up to it, involving Lucy actually starting the trip.

Secondly, it must have counted over at Desilu as two episodes, because Season 5 otherwise has only 22 episodes, compared to Season 6's 24. I always felt they meant to break it into two episodes for syndication, but changed their mind when the time actually came to do it.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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One "extra" that would seem absolutely necessary for Season 5 would be the hour-long "Lucy in London" special.

First of all, a half-hour episode leads up to it, involving Lucy actually starting the trip.

Secondly, it must have counted over at Desilu as two episodes, because Season 5 otherwise has only 22 episodes, compared to Season 6's 24. I always felt they meant to break it into two episodes for syndication, but changed their mind when the time actually came to do it.

Yeah, it would be great if that special was included in TLS fifth season set.

It is interesting to note that fifth season of The Lucy Show was the shortest Lucy season ever. The longest Lucy season was I Love Lucy's first season which had 35 episodes. Another thing ... each season of Here's Lucy consisted of 24 episodes each. This trend, of course, was started by The Lucy Show's sixth and final season.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

But if we count "Lucy in London" as two half-hours -- and after all, why not? She was playing Lucy Carmichael, and it was shown in her regular time slot -- then there would also be 24 episodes in Season 5.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

As I'm sure you know, the first season of "I Love Lucy" was filmed with the standard (for the time) 39 episodes -- counting the pilot as one -- and three episodes were saved for the next season.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Oh oh. There's something ominous in that story on TVShowsonDVD.

It gives the running time as 733 minutes.

Dividing that by 30 episodes comes to slightly under 24 and 1/2 minutes per episode.

In 1962-63, half-hour sitcoms minus commercials should clock in at 26 minutes per episode.

Could it be ... is it even possible ... don't tell me ... but are they using syndicated prints for this?

If so, I'm going on record now: Obviously, it will go from "Must Buy" to "No Sale" for me ... and it will be the last straw. It will once and for all keep me from ever being excited about a TVonDVD release again.

I checked "The Lucy Show" episode with Robert Stack that was included on S1V2 of "The Untouchables" DVD. It times out to 25:23 and is definitely full length. The additional time would be 3 minutes of network commercials plus opening and closing sponsor billboards, the network ID and the local station break.

I also looked at the "Here's Lucy" episodes on the Shout Factory collection and every one I checked timed out at 25:30 and again are definitely full length. So at least we know that these episodes all exist in their original uncut form. I think it's a safe bet that the earlier ones do too.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

I have no concern about edited shows after the extras were announced today.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Thanks, Gary16. I do think 25:30 should be the correct length for "The Lucy Show," especially going way back to 1962-63.

Therefore, 30 episodes should be 765 minutes, which is why the running time of 733 concerned me. However, it's likely that 733 isn't correct. (I hope it isn't, of course.)
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Has anyone noticed that BB will not be carrying The Lucy Show in their stores. I just checked the web page to confirm this. It is a policy of theirs to not carry certain shows. You may order from their web page and get it as a store pick up. For some that may be ok but I would perfer to buy it on it's street date not later.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Has anyone noticed that BB will not be carrying The Lucy Show in their stores. I just checked the web page to confirm this. It is a policy of theirs to not carry certain shows. You may order from their web page and get it as a store pick up. For some that may be ok but I would perfer to buy it on it's street date not later.

Most of my purchases of DVDs are from online retailers, either Deep Discount or Amazon. My experience with Deep Discount is that when I have pre-ordered a set, they usually ship it the week before it's official release date, so I end up getting it a day or two before it's officially for sale in the stores.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

thelucyshowdvd.com is now confirming that the episodes are in fact unedited!!!

It also discusses in a little more depth about the special features that will be included.

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
Thanks, Gary16. I do think 25:30 should be the correct length for "The Lucy Show," especially going way back to 1962-63.

Therefore, 30 episodes should be 765 minutes, which is why the running time of 733 concerned me. However, it's likely that 733 isn't correct. (I hope it isn't, of course.)
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Thank you, DoreSchary, that's great news.

Here's the key quote from the website:

"Additionally, the episodes included on this DVD release are completely unedited with run-times of just slightly under 26 minutes per episode."

Now, all of those who said I was wrong when I said the episodes should be approximately 26 minutes owe me a big apology. (I love being right; it happens so seldom.)

Here's another quote from the website, and it's something I wish were true of all vintage TV shows:

"There is even a feature to play the episodes as originally broadcast with vintage network openings, closings and cast commericals!"

All in all, it sounds like everything we could hope for in a TV on DVD set.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Sounds just like the same level of care that went into the ILL sets. Cannot wait!
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Thank you, DoreSchary, that's great news.

Here's the key quote from the website:

"Additionally, the episodes included on this DVD release are completely unedited with run-times of just slightly under 26 minutes per episode."

Now, all of those who said I was wrong when I said the episodes should be approximately 26 minutes owe me a big apology. (I love being right; it happens so seldom.)

Here's another quote from the website, and it's something I wish were true of all vintage TV shows:

"There is even a feature to play the episodes as originally broadcast with vintage network openings, closings and cast commericals!"

All in all, it sounds like everything we could hope for in a TV on DVD set.

Sounds great. I just hope after all this, they don't change the music (or if they have to, very little of it).
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Sounds great. I just hope after all this, they don't change the music (or if they have to, very little of it).

I don't forsee any danger of that. It seems anything Lucy or Star Trek related Paramount/CBS gives high regards to and goes out of its way to please the fans. It is us Fugitive fans and others that they kick to the side and gives us what they want.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Sounds just like the same level of care that went into the ILL sets. Cannot wait!

It does seem that way, doesn't it? Let's just hope that this level of quality continues with the remaining 'Lucy' seasons, whether it be Here's Lucy or The Lucy Show.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

This season has two episodes that I still remember vividly from childhood: "Lucy Puts Up a TV Antenna" and "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower."

Which episode was it that had Lucy having a nightmare after she and Viv went to a horror movie with Mr. Mooney as Dracula?
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MORTON DILL: No... no, ma'am, I... I'm from Alabama.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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Which episode was it that had Lucy having a nightmare after she and Viv went to a horror movie with Mr. Mooney as Dracula?

"Lucy and the Monsters". Episode #75. Aired January 25th, 1965. It's a third season episode.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

So it would have been a color episode? I only remember seeing it in monochrome.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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So it would have been a color episode? I only remember seeing it in monochrome.
Yes, this episode is in color. If you are remembering it from its very first airing, however, then you are remembering correctly. CBS broadcast The Lucy Show in black & white through the third season, even though Desilu filmed the show in color beginning with season 2.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

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So it would have been a color episode? I only remember seeing it in monochrome.

Seasons Two and Three were shot in color with an eye toward future syndication but were originally broadcast in black and white as CBS didn't go color to a large degree until 1965.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

The odd thing is that I first saw The Lucy Show in syndication in the '70s, and the Lucy/Viv episodes were always in black & white.
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Re: The Lucy Show Season 1 Spring 2009

Here's Lucy: Season One is coming out on 8/25: Classicflix.com : - Articles - - ARTWORK ADDED: Here's Lucy - Season 1
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Just found this first review of The Lucy Show: The Official First Season...

http://hkfilmnews.blogspot.com/2009/07/lucy-show-official-first-season-dvd.html
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How did he manage to get it two weeks in advance?
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 How did he manage to get it two weeks in advance?

cause they send the DVDs out early for review purposes. And it seems like the folks wanted to send out stuff earlier than usual to avoid any logjams over the 4th of July weekend

although you're only supposed to post reviews 10 days before the release date

come see the reviews at
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and the Seinfeld Tour Bus
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And don't forget...Vivian Bagley must SURELY have been sitcom land's first DIVORCED WOMAN!!!

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I'm pretty sure she was, as surprising a fact as that the first toilet shown on television was on "Leave It to Beaver."

There's this book called "The Guide to United States Popular Culture" by Pat Browne.  He says CBS wouldn't let Mary Tyler Moore play a divorced character on her 1970 sitcom because they were afraid people would think she had divorced Dick Van Dyke.  He then goes on with this howler:

" More significant was the network's concern over the American viewer's readiness to accept a divorced character.  CBS waited until 1975, when Bonnie Franklin became television's first divorced character in the sitcom One Day at a Time."

It just shows you can't trust what you read in books -- or on Internet forums, either, of course -- but as we Lucy fans know, Vivian Bagley was a "divorced character" 13 years before 1975.

P.S.  After submitting this, I remembered that the title character in Maude, although currently married, had been divorced several times, hadn't she?  And that was three years before One Day at a Time.  But that's still ten years after Viv.

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P.S.  After submitting this, I remembered that the title character in Maude, although currently married, had been divorced several times, hadn't she?  And that was three years before One Day at a Time.  But that's still ten years after Viv.
 

Two of Maude's husbands died, and she divorced the other. Walter Findlay was #4.

I heard that rumor of people thinking Mary Richards would have divorced Dick Van Dyke...in fact I read it on the box of the early 1990s MTM Home Video release of the first two episodes of that show. So before the internet even the production company started to believe rumors about its own productions. I seriously doubt anyone would believe that. It's appalling how many truly lazy books on popular culture get published, and the inaccurate info continues to persist in the internet age. Of course, they don't really have any form of peer review.

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" More significant was the network's concern over the American viewer's readiness to accept a divorced character.  CBS waited until 1975, when Bonnie Franklin became television's first divorced character in the sitcom One Day at a Time."


So instead CBS glorified divorce and lampooned and belittled marriage with One Day at a Time to make sure America got the message. 

Oh how I hated those preachy, liberal sitcoms from the 70's where every virtue became a vice and every vice became a virtue.  Not all sitcoms from that era fell into this trap, but many did.  One Day at a Time is a perfect example (as was Maude).

Gary "at least with The Lucy Show the fact that Viv was divorced wasn't glorified as some wonderful example all women should strive for" O.

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I heard that rumor of people thinking Mary Richards would have divorced Dick Van Dyke...in fact I read it on the box of the early 1990s MTM Home Video release of the first two episodes of that show. So before the internet even the production company started to believe rumors about its own productions. I seriously doubt anyone would believe that.

 
 
I don't know.  I always assumed that Vivian Bagley had divorced Fred and that the late, lamented Mr. Carmichael had spoken with a Cuban accent.

Seriously, I remember when MTM premiered and there had been discussions of making her a divorcee.  I think the rationale was a bit more subtle than has been reported.  CBS just felt that after audiences had seen her happily married to Dick Van Dyke for five years, it would just make audiences uncomfortable to now see her as a divorcee and that subconciously audiences would be imaginging her ex-husband as looking like Dick Van Dyke, thus giving this new show a bad first impression with potential viewers.  I doubt CBS executives thought audiences would *literally* think she had divorced Dick Van Dyke.


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