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Re: FATHER KNOWS BEST, Season 3 - Coming in June
Matt, I'm going by faint memories of watching this one when it originally aired, but for me, the series seemed to peak in S2-3. That said, I'm probably in for the entire run if it gets released.
Bottom line for me, you can't go wrong with any season set here.
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Matt, I agree with Jeff that RAWHIDE hit it's stride with Season 2, but Season 1 isn't bad at all. In fact it's more than good, IMHO. So if you're a stickler for starting out in order, then go for Season 1. I only mentioned S3 because of the storyline which I thought might appeal a bit more to your fiance.
Brad is also correct about the benefits of BIG VALLEY as a starting point depending on what she'd really prefer. If b/w is a turnoff, then definitely go with BIG VALLEY. And if it's important that there be female leads then you'd have to go that route too. There are entire episodes in RAWHIDE where a female is never seen. Not a lot of them, but they're are several. If that's not appealing to your fiance, then don't go with RAWHIDE.
It was really hard for me to decide which of those two to recommend because in my mind RAWHIDE is much more of a classic western, whereas BIG VALLEY is certainly more of a western/family show. But both are fantastic series that I'd highly, highly recommend to you.
Hope our info helps you.
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As a Big Valley fanatic, that one's an easy recommendation. If the color thing is important to you all, then as Gary said, BV is a can't-miss Western. It's been described in some circles as a "soap opera" Western but that's not a negative description at all. The show has great storylines and acting throughout the series as it follows the lives of the Barkley family. Something else that was interesting to me is that I wasn't a big Barbara Stanwick fan (except for that role in "Double Indemnity") but she was perfectly-cast in this show. Lee Majors was also outstanding as a young "Gary Cooper-type" character in the series. Richard Long: perfect as the lawyer brother.....Peter Breck, as the excitable hair-trigger brother...Linda Evans as the sister. Outstanding combination of actors in roles that were made for them, imo.
My Mom got hooked on this show and she's never liked Westerns. That said a lot to me about how good BV is as a TV series.
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Trust me, black and white is not an issue. I Love Lucy and Twilight Zone mades sure that glass ceiling was broken.
As for what she would enjoy most, it's tough to say. I can tell you that she tends toward more light stuff, which makes me think that Big Valley might be a safer starting point than Rawhide overall. But then again, she does enjoy thoughtful adventures (we're both big fans of Lost and did enjoy Heroes until the writer's brains went on vacation and we got sick of new characters getting introduced just to be forgotten or killed, but that's a whole other rant.) so maybe Rawhide might work.
Must admit, the surprise for me is no one making a pitch for Gunsmoke. I've never seen it myself but given it was IDed as such a classic Western for so long... just a surprise.
Right now, I'm thinking of a compromise: getting both the first seasons of Valley and Rawhide and starting with Valley and moving over to Rawhide once we're done with the first season. That way, she gets a taste of both, the safer one first and that way, we know.
Of course, I'll still need advice for the next move beyond those two. Oh and just to stay on topic, FKB is also getting consideration for a buy in the future.
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Must admit, the surprise for me is no one making a pitch for Gunsmoke. I've never seen it myself but given it was IDed as such a classic Western for so long... just a surprise.
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If she likes thoughtful adventures, Gunsmoke is definitely an option. I'm in the middle of the second season, and continually impressed at the quality and consistence of the stories. And it being a half-hour show, instead of an hour like Rawhide or The Big Valley, may make it go down better.
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Matt, you have plenty of suggestions now.

UPS showed up and I now have FATHER KNOWS BEST Season 3!!! I just watched the first 2 episodes. The quality is more than adequate for me, looking and sounding just like Season 2. Full running times too. But above all that, the stories are just wonderful. This show really has a way of tugging at my heart strings, and I had to choke back a few tears at the end of the second episode, "Never in Twain", when Jim Anderson gives a heartfelt speech to his distraught daughter about the magic of summer vacations and those short romances that can take place when we are young. Great, great stuff!
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Anybody else get this set yet?
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You could also go with BIG VALLEY Season 1, but it's not quite the same as a gritty western like RAWHIDE. It's great and would also probably work with women, but it's not a traditional western. It's more of a family western.
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I second The Big Valley. I'm not a big western fan but I do like the stories on The Big Valley. I particularly like how the episodes focus on a different character (Heath, Audra, Victoria, etc.) each week. I'm not sure about the first season, but some of the later episodes can be a little sensational (lots of psychopaths or people seeking revenge against the Barkleys), but I love it!
Another favorite family western is Little House on the Prairie. The stories from the first season are mostly touching and makes my eyes well up. I also like the diversity. Some episodes are serious, some are humorous, some emotional. Also, about every fourth episode they focus on a different resident/neighbor of Walnut Grove.
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Good for you, Brad. I know you'll love it. It's far and away my favorite series that Shout is currently releasing. And I believe it's still the only representative of the 50's they have going right now. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we will see Season 4 near the end of the year.
Some of the suggestions here about the westerns for Matt demonstrate why I had such a tough time deciding on one series. I see westerns in two distinct categories: Classical Westerns and Family Westerns. When I think of Classical Westerns I think of RAWHIDE, GUNSMOKE, HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL, and the like. Then when I think of Family Westerns my mind goes to BIG VALLEY, BONANZA, WAGON TRAIN, and the like. And LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRARIE, which I do love, is even more of a family drama set in the old west. So when Matt asked the question initially I was conflicted about exactly what he wanted: A real, honest to goodness western - or - a family style western. I love both myself, and that's why I picked the two I did. I think they are great representations of each category. Just my two cents.
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Me too, unless I find it locally before then. I keep hoping that Sam's might get it or Peyton Place on the racks soon.
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Good for you, Brad. I know you'll love it. It's far and away my favorite series that Shout is currently releasing. And I believe it's still the only representative of the 50's they have going right now. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we will see Season 4 near the end of the year.
Some of the suggestions here about the westerns for Matt demonstrate why I had such a tough time deciding on one series. I see westerns in two distinct categories: Classical Westerns and Family Westerns. When I think of Classical Westerns I think of RAWHIDE, GUNSMOKE, HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL, and the like. Then when I think of Family Westerns my mind goes to BIG VALLEY, BONANZA, WAGON TRAIN, and the like. And LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRARIE, which I do love, is even more of a family drama set in the old west. So when Matt asked the question initially I was conflicted about exactly what he wanted: A real, honest to goodness western - or - a family style western. I love both myself, and that's why I picked the two I did. I think they are great representations of each category. Just my two cents.
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Well for me, my exposure to Westerns is mostly movies like Unforgiven and Searchers. I have watched Little House and have memories of Bonanza, plus Gene Autry, so I've tried a little bit of everything. Now, I asked the fiance if she would prefer an hour or half hour and she chose the latter. So, with that in mind, I'm looking for something that would work as a bridge from what we're used to to the more "classical" Western, like Gunsmoke.
Right now, Gunsmoke is on the short list with Bonanza and Big Valley also being considered. With more advice, the list could grow.
Oh and for the record, FKB is being considered deeply, especially with sales right around the corner.
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I figured it out, it is the episode "Mr. Beal Meets His Match" from season 4. It is based on the Faust legend where Betty is writing a story that includes all members of the family. Kind of a making a deal with the devil concept. That one episode in particular has stuck with me the most from the some 35+ years since I probably last saw it.
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I thought this might be the one you were looking for, but it's been so long since I've seen most of these episodes that I just wasn't sure enough to post about it. Sounds like a great episode and it's another reason to hope we see Season 4 released. That, and the potential addition of the Christmas-themed episode from "Window on Main Street." If that one doesn't get released via these Shout FKB sets, I fear I'll never be able to lay my hands on it and add it to my Christmas collection.
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Matt, I'm a little late to the party here with recommendations, but since no one else has mentioned it, I have to offer what I feel is one of the most female friendly westerns of all time, ALIAS SMITH AND JONES.
Although only the first season has been released, I can promise you that this lighthearted western has a very large and loyal following among women. There are whole websites devoted to the series, all started and maintained by women; a companion book to the series was published a couple of years ago, written by two women; and last, but not least, my girlfriend totally loved the entire series when it was shown on the Encore Westerns Channel in recent years and she too can be averse to the western genre.
As for the show itself, it was obviously influenced by BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID, stars two male actors who exhibit maximum eye candy for the ladies, and has a very likable and easy tone to it, while still being a good solid western. It was created by Roy Huggins and is definitely in the vein of his earlier series MAVERICK. Although the series met with tragedy in the middle of its second season, the suicide of co-star of Pete Duel, it was recast and managed to retain much of its original charm throughout the rest of its run.
I promise you that this is one western that I believe your fiance will like.
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Another great western series, Walker. Thanks for mentioning it. There were so many. I also really should have mentioned HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL. It's right up there in my Top 5, maybe Top 3 of all time. Oh, and it's only a half hour show too, Matt. I'm just not sure I can honestly say it'd be all that appealing to women, so I didn't recommend it. But it is a great, great series!
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Another great western series, Walker. Thanks for mentioning it. There were so many. I also really should have mentioned HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL. It's right up there in my Top 5, maybe Top 3 of all time. Oh, and it's only a half hour show too, Matt. I'm just not sure I can honestly say it'd be all that appealing to women, so I didn't recommend it. But it is a great, great series!
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My head is not swimming as I am taking notes and evaluating every opinion. The only embarassing moment these days is I think if you listen closely, you can hear my wallet's plaintive cries for help.
That's the really hard part is picking just one, especially when you have "new" releases coming with fair regularity plus other stuff you want to try. It's hard being a fan of classic TV but it's nice knowing your fiance has total trust in you to at least try something once. Time Tunnel cemented my reputation as picking something up blind, but it ended up being pretty successful.
I'm thinking still though and I'll let you all know. Keep the opinions coming, but also if you think of anything to avoid, let me know that too!
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Anyway, I won't even bother with the stores any more; I'll order stuff like this off the Internet, like you guys had the good sense to do in the first place.
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Joe, I guarantee you won't regret 'net DVD purchasing. The convenience far outweighs an occasional "mail/return for exchange" issue with defective DVD's. You never have to shop around for the older show's TV/DVD sets.
No relation to Amazon, but it's one of the best stores on the 'net, imo. Their return/exchange setup is the best I've used so far and I've never had an issue with returning a TV/DVD set for exchange after the normal 30-day window has expired. I think I returned a set last year about 4 months after the purchase date with no problems.
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Well, I've watched the entire first disc (7 episodes) with the family, and as always we are pleased as can be. I never cease to be amazed at how this particular sitcom can tug at my heartstrings. The backscore is beautiful and puts me in a very sentimental mood every single time. This is truly one of the all-time classic television shows.
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does anyone know if the set has any of the sponsor openings?
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Not yet (through the first disc). However, the ending credits will show sponsor pics on the side.
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