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I just had to write in about tonight's Medium episode. The ending to it was just so perfect I couldn't believe it. This season is off to a good start.
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What a strange episode, but I agree the last 5 minutes were nearly perfect. Medium meets Ghost Whisperer meets Leverage. Hysterical.

"I sit in my cube with my headphones on and try to let my competence hold back the tide for as long as possible, then move on when the flood of stupidity breaches the levee. I'm a refugee from Hurricane Stupid."

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I stopped watching Ghost Whisperer in 2007. OTOH, Medium has grabbed me from the first episode. Although somewhat similar, I think GW is more of a one-trick-pony whereas Medium has richer and more varied plots.
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Nice episode.

The ending even blended in a touch of "My Name is Earl". Karma truly is a bitch.

Stan

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This week's episode was of a more gray moral territory. Humorously, just a couple of weeks ago on another forum several people were discussing how sleep deprived Joe is and we get an episode addressing that very subject.
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My wife and I have watched every episode of Medium and have enjoyed most of them, however, this last episode just left us kind of in a funk.
Allison has gone from dreaming about the crime to taking on someone else's soul to solve the mysteries, the week before that she's building a bomb and cannot stop herself, WTF??
It was my wife who announced that the show was becoming stale, lets see, each week Allison is going to have a series of dreams and/or out of body experiences, Poor Joe is not going to sleep very well..again, Scanlen and the DA are going to doubt something she is trying to tell them (come on you two, you know Allison by now!), and one or more of the kids is having an issue. Did I leave anything out?

I was digging the storyline involving Joe's vision for a product and had hoped that would play out better and Allisons's consulting gig with Angelica Houston's missing persons business was also promising.
I don't know, its gone from must see to don't care if we fall asleep and it makes me sad really and from the post count, I am not alone.

I know enough to know I don't know enough!

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I was really wondering where they were going in last night's episode. While watching Allison in the past, I "knew" that she couldn't change the past as she was attempting to do so. She was interacting with people that we know she hadn't interacted with at the time and which would have changed her life later. I had originally thought she was going to do something that wouldn't mess everything up.

In any case, the whole thing was a dream which contained dreams within the dream. From that she was able to work things out with her daughter and also get the right person convicted 5 years after the fact. I still have to wonder about the dream of Joe driving in the rain, though. Maybe that was a sign that the whole thing was going to be a dream?
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Monday night's episode had its share of surprises. I knew the stock pick was going to backfire somehow, but for some reason I didn't think the rest of the dream was also altered. I was surprised that the next dream was so blatantly wrong, but that nutjob still had some screws loose even as a dead spirit and just had to taunt Allison.

Even though I remember seeing the wall of images of Allison in the preview, it still didn't prepare me for them seeing it. Quite a shocking episode in all. I tried to watch the people entering the house again, but I couldn't identify anyone as the nutjob.

By the way, on wikipedia it looks like there are new episodes through the first week of June with two episodes on May 4 (starting at 9 PM).
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First off, on last week's episode I was anticipating some help from the other spirits and I was happy to see it resolved the way it was. Allison needed to ask for help and then they helped take care of the bad guy in order to resolve things. The only thing that didn't seem to sit right is that he had already affected so many people.

As far as this week's two hour episode, we knew right from the scene before the credits that if Allison took the job there could be consequences related to the serial killer. What I don't understand is why she couldn't have taken precautions. She could have insisted on having a lawyer look at her contract and inserting some verbiage related to criminal investigations. We now know that would probably have meant that they wouldn't have hired her, but she should have thought things out. It appears that the primary reason she was hired was to protect Justin.

How is she going to get out of her predicament and not end up in a much worst situation than she was at the beginning of the story? I think her daughter's dreams will be the solution. While her visions about her drowned friend don't seem related, the new one probably is connected. Her substitute teacher might be Justin's next victim. It will be interesting to see how it all works out.

Two new episodes next week and then one each of the following two weeks.
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First off, on last week's episode I was anticipating some help from the other spirits and I was happy to see it resolved the way it was. Allison needed to ask for help and then they helped take care of the bad guy in order to resolve things. The only thing that didn't seem to sit right is that he had already affected so many people.
The way I took it is that until Allison became directly involved, even if some of the spirits had appeared to her, they would most likely be disjointed, fragmented images that she probably would not process in a meaningful way. It's been alluded to on the program that she sometimes gets "bombarded" with random images throughout the course of the day and they do not necessarily have meaning for her.
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As far as this week's two hour episode, we knew right from the scene before the credits that if Allison took the job there could be consequences related to the serial killer. What I don't understand is why she couldn't have taken precautions. She could have insisted on having a lawyer look at her contract and inserting some verbiage related to criminal investigations. We now know that would probably have meant that they wouldn't have hired her, but she should have thought things out. It appears that the primary reason she was hired was to protect Justin.
Yeah, so much for Allison being psychic!
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How is she going to get out of her predicament and not end up in a much worst situation than she was at the beginning of the story? I think her daughter's dreams will be the solution. While her visions about her drowned friend don't seem related, the new one probably is connected. Her substitute teacher might be Justin's next victim. It will be interesting to see how it all works out.
The way I think this will play out is that it will be proven that Lydecker Sr. (and most likely Tracy Pollan) have been accomplices in a massive criminal cover-up to protect Justin (that's why Allison saw David Morse crying,) and since Allison was "recruited" and hired solely for the purpose of perpetuating this cover-up, any agreement she signed with Lydecker will be rendered null and void. Also, the fact that they did this this right under the noses of the DA and the police department is not going to help their cause...
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Two new episodes next week and then one each of the following two weeks.
And, Medium was just renewed for next season, so we have at least one more year of quality drama to look forward to!

Gary

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I haven't seen the second episode from last night, but did see the first one and what did I say last week?

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I think her daughter's dreams will be the solution. While her visions about her drowned friend don't seem related, the new one probably is connected. Her substitute teacher might be Justin's next victim.
I'm glad to see I can predict some things.

One strange line for the episode was Allison complaining along the lines of "I am some psychic, how come I didn't see this coming?" wrt her being in a bad situation working for Lydecker. She did see it coming - her dreams of dead bodies mixed in with new luxury. She just didn't pay attention to the warnings.

I was surprised not only that Lydecker, Sr. was killed, but that Caitlyn predicted it and let it happen. Some "psychic" she was, she should have known better than to proceed on this path with Allison there.
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Nice resolution to the three episode Lydecker story arc! There were enough twists and turns along the way to keep it interesting. The only thing that bugged me a bit is that they rushed the conclusion (as they often do on this show) and literally one second after Ariel tells Allison about her dream we cut to news footage of the police taking Justin into custody.

On the other hand, "The Man In the Mirror," last night's second episode, was an instant CLASSIC! Jeffry Tambor was in absolute top form as Allison's vessel (so to speak.) The scenes between Weber and Tambor in the Dubois house were priceless! I'm amazed at how well they managed to carry off what is essentially a non-Allison episode of Medium. I hope we get to see "Uncle Todd" again somewhere down the line.

Speaking of which...
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It looks like Anjelica Huston returns as Cynthia Keener next week.
I am really enjoying the heck out of season five!

Gary

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I love Medium. I enjoy the episodes where Allison's dreams lead to the perp. But I thought the episodes where she and Tambor switched bodies and where an evil ghost makes her dream the wrong dreams were terrible.
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The Anjelica Huston return as Cynthia Keener worked out quite nicely last night. It was an interesting episode. I am not sure that they completely played fair with us, though. I could have sworn there were shots of the guy's hand where we should have seen the scar, but didn't see it. It could be that it was angled "just so" but I think the hand make-up was only on for the closeup reveals.

Now, just how will Joe's job go wrong this time around? I think there are two more episodes left in the season.

There are rumors that CBS might want to move the show to their network and show it Friday evenings. I guess we'll find out more this week.
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I just saw the news that NBC is not going to renew Medium next year as seen in this article on NBC's schedule: NBC cuts fall season in two - Variety.com

CBS will have to come in to save the show.
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I just saw the news that NBC is not going to renew Medium next year as seen in this article on NBC's schedule: NBC cuts fall season in two - Variety.com

CBS will have to come in to save the show.
Good. I sincerely hope they do!

Wasn't it just announced three or four weeks ago that NBC had given Medium a 13 episode pickup for next season? If this does turn out to be CBS to the rescue, maybe we'll get a full 22 episode commitment out of them.

More often than not, when a program swaps networks like this, it'll stick around for one more season before the plug is eventually pulled. But sometimes, like J*A*G for instance, a program will roll along for several more seasons and actually become a bigger hit for its new network, than it ever was for the old one. I think Medium has everything it takes to do just that. All CBS has to do is stick it in a Friday night birth adjacent to The Ghost Whisperer and stand back. Or, pair it with The Mentalist... Now that would be a trip! Plus, with the new "Joe in California" storyline, CBS has a readymade vehicle in place to re-tool the program if they desire, without alienating current fans. The family could move to San Diego where Allison gets set up with a new DA's office. It would create an entirely new backdrop for the show and open up lots of new story possibilities.

Gary

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Well, that didn't take long!

Bravo, CBS!

Gary

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According to Zap2It, Medium...
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will air on Friday nights, sandwiched between "Ghost Whisperer" and "Numb3rs."
In another interesting development, Zap2It also reports...
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The other big move is that of "The Mentalist," this season's most-watched new show, to 10 p.m. Thursdays. The goal, CBS scheduling maven Kelly Kahl says, is to re-establish dominance of the night by creating a "super block" with "CSI."
IMO, by CBS moving a powerhouse performer like The Mentalist to 10 PM, they clearly see an opportunity to capitalize on NBC's new five-night-a-week Jay Leno strategy. I like Jay, but it is going to be an uphill battle for him in this new timeslot. Over the long haul it may work out, but in the short term, I think it will be bloody.

Gary

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The move by CBS was predicted and I'm glad to see it. I watched a few episodes of Ghost Whisperer when it started and was thinking it might be something like Medium but was completely disappointed. It will be interesting to see what any Ghost Whisperer fans might think of Medium if they are trying it for the first time next season.

That' an interesting move for The Mentalist. At the moment there isn't anything else I'm interested in on Thursday at 10 PM.
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Now, just how will Joe's job go wrong this time around? I think there are two more episodes left in the season.

Maybe CBS will re-tool the show a bit and have him move to San Diego, then just the occasional phone call to Allison and the girls.

Love the show overall, but his character and the constant ups & downs with his job have become way to annoying. He seems to very rarely have anything positive to contribute, just a big whiner to play off Allison.

It would be nice to see Angelica Houston come back, looks like they left that door open last night. Then maybe a little more time with the two older daughters as they learn how to deal with their "talent". The show would be just fine without Joe.

Stan

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It will be interesting to see what any Ghost Whisperer fans might think of Medium if they are trying it for the first time next season.

I'm not a Ghost Whisperer "fan" but I watched the first 2 seasons or so of Ghost Whisperer on DVD during the summer when not much else was on. I could never get into waiting it on TV. I've wanted to give Medium a try, but it'll have to be via the same method... DVD's. I can't just jump into an on-going show these days... I'd rather start from the beginning and work my way up. I've no idea if I'll like Medium, but I do plan to sample early episodes at some point and see if it interests me. It really does seems a natural show to join Ghost Whisperer and Numb3rs.

Studios, caption your internet streams.

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Maybe CBS will re-tool the show a bit and have him move to San Diego, then just the occasional phone call to Allison and the girls.

Love the show overall, but his character and the constant ups & downs with his job have become way to annoying. He seems to very rarely have anything positive to contribute, just a big whiner to play off Allison.

It would be nice to see Angelica Houston come back, looks like they left that door open last night. Then maybe a little more time with the two older daughters as they learn how to deal with their "talent". The show would be just fine without Joe.
Something to remember here is that the characters of Allison, Joe and the kids all have real-life counterparts. In an interview with Glenn Gordon Caron and the real Allison DuBois on the first season DVD, the two fess-up that some story-lines were culled directly from actual events in the lives of Allison and her family (although they don't specifically say which ones.) AFAIK, Allison is still married to Joe and he really is an aerospace engineer (just like on the show) so, yanking him from the cast could potentially affect Caron's ability to explore some future, real-life based, story-line. Not only that, IMO, Medium without Joe DuBois would be far less entertaining. As always, YMMV.

Gary

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More info in the article 'Medium' executive producer Glenn Gordon Caron is 'honored' to work for CBS again | Show Tracker | Los Angeles Times
- as far as any chance of Joe disappearing:
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"I make the show primarily, frankly, to please myself," Caron said. "I try and please myself. I try desperately not to embarrass Patricia. It’s my hope that if I do those two things, the audience will show up. And that won’t change. And the end of the day, it's just a show about a marriage -- a man and a woman, a character study in camouflage."
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Season and NBC finale this coming Monday.

It was great to see Allyce Beasley in the episode Monday. I haven't seen her on TV in ages and looking at her imdb page, she has just one credit since 2004 and this one (for The Talented Ms. Boddiker) isn't even listed. She was always great as Agnes DiPesto in Moonlighting which was also a Glenn Gordon Caron show, so it was great for him to finally bring her in. I'm surprised we haven't seen Curtis Armstrong (Herbert Quentin Viola) in an episode (he did appear in a My Name Is Earl episode this year).

Meanwhile, it was a fun episode as she (Ms. Boddiker) got way in over her head and luckily did realize it before it was too late.
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It was an entertaining (albeit lightweight) episode IMO. It was pretty obvious early on how the story was going to play out and it really didn't stray from my initial assumption. I did enjoy the backstory narrative, especially the Lee Scanlon material. Now we know why he has been so "gun-shy" about his impending fatherhood. The Ariel and her sisters driving escapade was way too predictable by Medium standards, and unless there is a psychic connection between one of their dreams and Allison's, I am slowly reaching the point where the less we see of them, the better. They do still serve as the primary catalyst for marital story lines between Allison and Joe, so for that reason, I understand the necessity of their inclusion. This is, after all, primarily a show about relationships, and I think the DuBois marriage is one of the best written and performed ones in TV history.

On a positive note, Monday's ratings were up with Medium and CSI Miami in a virtual tie for the lead in total viewers at 10 p.m.

Gary

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Anyone with insight as to why everyone [or just Allison, at the least, though Allison did cue Devalos in to her suspicions] let Ms. DiPesto off completely?
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Anyone with insight as to why everyone [or just Allison, at the least, though Allison did cue Devalos in to her suspicions] let Ms. DiPesto off completely?

I was also wondering about that. Walk off with 300K, give it back and say you're sorry, all is forgiven?

Even if the bank manager was smitten with her and didn't press charges, Allison and the DA knew the complete story. Apparently they just gave her immunity and looked the other way after she helped set up the killer.

Stan

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Anyone with insight as to why everyone [or just Allison, at the least, though Allison did cue Devalos in to her suspicions] let Ms. DiPesto off completely?
Yeah, this is like the third or fourth time this season that the writers have (in one way or another) let the main perp get away with it, so to speak... and usually with the help of the D.A. and/or police department. I hope this trend doesn't continue because it is pretty unrealistic.

Gary

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Even if the bank manager was smitten with her and didn't press charges, Allison and the DA knew the complete story. Apparently they just gave her immunity and looked the other way after she helped set up the killer.
I think the immunity angle is good. Also, once they set up the real killer, they didn't really have good evidence against her without jeopardizing his case.
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I don't think I'd call the main perp in this case -- either of the 2 real Bank Robbers qualify there particularly the really Bad Boy.

I don't the Bank Manager ever knew Ms Dipesto was a part of the crime in any way.

Technically did she steal from the bank or actually rob the Crooks? OK she qualifies for a felony, but could be at least a gray area morally. Was there any evidence other than Allison's dreams that could have convicted her if she didn't confess. Only the other thief knew for sure and any he said/she said gets her acquitted.

She moved the dead body from her house -- another crime, but she reported the body. Any actual proof if she doesn't confess, Allison's dreams can't hold up in court.

She lied about several facts to the DA office and intentionally made a bad drawing of the killer -- another ding, but how do they prove it in court.

Technically I guess she had possession of a gun and stole the crooks car, but that should qualify as self defense.

In the end she helped recover all the money and helped capture/convict the Bank Robber.

If the reason for punishing someone it to make sure it won't happen again, then I suspect she is one of the safest bets in history to never be a repeat offender.

She was at least as much a victim as perp on many levels -- being duped by the dancing crook, being ignored by the Bank Manager when she tried to prevent the crime, had her car shot up, and being was terrorized/blackmailed/almost killed by the Thief.

It's a TV show.

"I sit in my cube with my headphones on and try to let my competence hold back the tide for as long as possible, then move on when the flood of stupidity breaches the levee. I'm a refugee from Hurricane Stupid."

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