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Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

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3/18/09 at 6:39am
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

Wow, looks like I am very late to this funeral.

Very big bummer. I really wanted my next TV to be a KURO. Hearing about the deep inky black levels had me pumped to watch space movies in a completely darkened room. Also, there would be no need for me to use the mattes I had been using to mask out the "black bars." on my own set. But with our bills and the economy the way it is, it is going to be several years before we buy another set. Hopefully in that time there will be an HDTV that approaches the quality of the KURO. Although it seems quality is the least of consumer concerns these days.

My present set is over 6 years old. A Pioneer rear projection CRT (SD-533HD5) that still looks great. Although I'm sure it could use a professional calibration, the picture looks a lot better than virtually all of the LCDs I have seen. Here's hoping the thing lasts several more years.

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3/19/09 at 8:23am
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

thats very sad, poineer makes one of the best plasmas.
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4/2/09 at 5:22pm
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

Bought a Kuro 111FD today with the knowledge that Pioneer was quitting the Plasma business; honestly, I couldn't walk away from the price and the fact that I've always, always, wanted a Pioneer Elite display. Damn this TV looks great - even compared to my XBR4.

Sad about Pioneer, but I'm not to concerned with warranty issues or fixing it if it breaks.

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4/3/09 at 12:26pm
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

its sad to see such a paragon of quality go.

but, on the other hand, Plasmas are on the wane.

before the bashing begins, I love plasma. but they wont be able to compare with these Samsung OLED's



Showcased at CES 2009, Samsung expects them to be consumer ready by 2010!
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4/3/09 at 9:09pm
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

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its sad to see such a paragon of quality go.

but, on the other hand, Plasmas are on the wane.

before the bashing begins, I love plasma. but they wont be able to compare with these Samsung OLED's



Showcased at CES 2009, Samsung expects them to be consumer ready by 2010!

Yeah but OLED A) Isn't cheap and B) isn't available in sizes over 40" - yet. I too am a fan of the OLED technology, I spent about 30 minutes staring at CES. Well, if and when they are ready and cost effective I'll move into OLED technology.

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4/10/09 at 5:21pm
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

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Yeah but OLED A) Isn't cheap and B) isn't available in sizes over 40" - yet. I too am a fan of the OLED technology, I spent about 30 minutes staring at CES. Well, if and when they are ready and cost effective I'll move into OLED technology.

I think we're still a few years off from OLED technology for the manufacturers to really ramp up production. A lot of them are still trying to recover LCD glass factory costs!

In the 100" sizes I think next few years we'll see a lot of 1080P projector TV's as the energy consumption of 100" LCD is ridiculous (think multiple hair dryes)....
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4/14/09 at 11:44am
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

According to Samsung, their OLED's may be consumer ready as soon as 2010
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4/14/09 at 11:51am
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Depends on what is meant by "almost as good". Professional reviews have indicated Panasonic is two generations behind Pioneer in performance. Maybe that's imperceptible to the typical consumer so it's "almost as good".

As for being super thin...most TVs go on a stand that's 12" deep, so what does going from 2" to 1" thick on a TV do for anyone? No real space is saved.

Ultimately, Consumers lose out somewhat by no longer having the best technology competing and driving other companies to innovate further.


This is a great example of the bias people have for Pioneer.

I don't care if "professional" reviewers think Panasonic is "two generations behind" if 'typical consumer so it's "almost as good"'.

The vast majority of sets are bought by "typical consumers". And few, if any, seem to notice the difference in color contrast between Pioneer and Panasonic is side-by-side comparisons. Even Kevin Smith (ISF) ranks Pioneer as PQ 10 and Panasonic as PQ 9.5.

And the fact that the set is now 1" thick means that 12" deep stands are history. In fact these sets should be hung on a wall like paintings!


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4/14/09 at 1:55pm
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Re: Pioneer quitting Plasma TVs, going out of business?

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According to Samsung, their OLED's may be consumer ready as soon as 2010

i'll wait for it..

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4/15/09 at 6:35pm
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In fact these sets should be hung on a wall like paintings

Disagree.

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