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1/31/09 at 10:18am
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We have all heard about the economy and the big 3 auto issues. My company supplies rotors to foreign owned auto companies with factories in the USA. Last April we made 250,000 pieces. Last December we made only 50,000 pieces. So auto sales are down across all companies and I was wondering where the bottom is.
I currently own 3 cars and they are all paid for.
  • The family car is a 2003 and had about 112,000 miles on it. Everything works well and we have no reason to get rid of it.
  • My car is a 2004 and has about 45,000 miles on it. No problems her either.
  • The third car we just bought for my son. It is a 1987 and has 109,000 miles on it. It has a few issues but we paid only $900 for it. So if we put another $1,000 into it, we will have a good car.
All three of these cars could easily last years as long as there are no accidents. With the economy what it is, I don't see any reason to buy a new or used car in the near future. I look around and there are cars everywhere. New car lots, used car lots, driveways with more than 2 cars, etc... From what I see most of them are in good shape.

So the questions are; How many miles are on you car? How much longer do you expect it to last? When do you expect to get your next car?
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1/31/09 at 11:21am
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Re: Your Next New Car

My car is about 3.5 years old with 58000 kms on it. I am hoping to get at least 12 more years out of it before even contemplating getting another car. I'm not sure that the next one will be new.

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1/31/09 at 11:44am
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Re: Your Next New Car

I have two cars. One is a 2001 F-150 coming up on 60,000 miles. The other is a 2004 Miata with about 22,000 miles. I expect to get at least 10 more years out of each of them barring accidents. I doubt at my age (55) I will EVER buy another new car since I have lots of spare time now to shop for a decent used one should the need arise.

I can see buying replacement rotors someday however.

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1/31/09 at 12:29pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

We have 2 cars:

2007 Honda Odyssey w/ about 40,000 miles on it
2009 Ford Fusion with under 1,000 miles on it.

The Ford we just bought back in November to replace a 2000 Chrysler Concorde that had about 60,000 miles on it. The Chrysler was a POS. We used the crappy economy to our advantage to get a fantastic deal on the Fusion. We will only put 6,000 - 8,000 miles per year on it. So the Ford won't be replaced anytime soon.

The Odyssey is also relatively new, but it's the vehcle we put most of our miles on-- about 23,000 a year. So we'll probably look at replacing it in about 4 - 5 years. But even then, the Honda probably wouldn't need to be replaced.

So I guess we're set for a while.
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1/31/09 at 2:21pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

My first car was a '95 Chrysler Cirrus that lasted me until December 31, 2006. When I drove it back home from a party in the first hours of 2007, I only had third gear. It's a miracle I made it back at all, and since the Reverse gear was shot, once I pulled into the driveway I was stuck. Had it towed away by a charity that sells junk cars for parts at 108,185 miles. Thousands were dumped into it over the life of the car, a real lemon.

I'm still driving my second car, a '95 Corolla. It's got ~$45k miles on it. I've replaced the hub caps a couple times via a junkyard, taken it in for repairs once, and that's it. The alignment's a little screwy but I foresee many great years with it to come.
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1/31/09 at 2:27pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

I have a 2002 Chrysler Concord with 60k miles. It is in great condition but I really dislike it. As my punishment it will probably run forever.

My wife drives an 06 CRV with about 30k miles.

I like owning new because with my job I don't have time to wait around for car service or repairs - and certainly not time to do it myself. I only wish there were a Mercedes dealer in my town. Most dealers here blows chunks for service.

My wife is dieing for a mini cooper. I want a new Camaro. I also miss having an 8 passenger vehicle (we had a minivan). I'm considering getting a used minivan and cooper when I buy my Camaro - but much will depend on the economy - It really would be a vanity purchase - except for the minivan.

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1/31/09 at 2:33pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

Eric, does the 2002 Concorde make it any easier to replace the battery. On the 2000 Chrysler Concorde you had to actually remove the passenger front wheel to change the battery! Who was smoking dope when that was designed?
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1/31/09 at 2:39pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

The lease on my Legacy GT Limited is up in 2 years, so I guess mileage (4 figures) and longevity (probably a long, long time) are moot points.

I'd like to get something luxurious next time. If I get another sedan, I'll probably give the Big 3 some business and get a CTS. If not, an X3 is presently at the top of my non-sedan wish list.
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1/31/09 at 4:34pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

Just like you guys, I think most people are in a situation where they don't need to buy another car. Cars are lasting much longer and I think people will be holding on to their money a little more. I remember cars built in the 60s were doing good to get 100,000 miles on them and that was if rust didn't get them. Many cars built now days can hit 200,000 miles easily.
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1/31/09 at 4:42pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

My 1988 Honda just rolled over to 200,000 miles. I bought it new in 1988 and see no reason not to drive it to my grave. It's been an amazing car, though the engine has finally begun to show its age just in the last 20,000 miles.

My daughter will need a car when she starts college. I may buy her a car a couple of years sooner than she needs it, and drive it myself while I convert my 1988 Honda to electric power. I'm looking at a new Honda Fit, but I'm hoping they have a hybrid version by the time I'm ready to buy (in a couple of years). If not, the "regular" Fit will do nicely.

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1/31/09 at 5:19pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

I have a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Special Edition with 95,000 miles that I just paid off last month. I am so happy to be rid of the payments I cannot imagine trading now. It has developed an annoying lifter "tic" when idleing but not constantly. My mechanic says it will began to occur all the time eventually but otherwise poses no problem.
My wife has a 2002 BMW 325i with 78,000 miles that we are still paying for. It was a certified pre-owned and we have about a year left. Now that mine is paid for we are going to pay it off as soon as possible.
Before, we might have considered trading for her a new car but now are trying to pay down all that we can in light of the present economy.
We want to both be payment free for awhile before we buy anything. The BMW should last a long time because she puts less than 10K a year but the Jeep may go sooner, either way we are probably good for another three years.

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1/31/09 at 5:42pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

The wife and I share a 2007 saturn. Its a lease and when the lease runs up we will be in the market for a new car.

Some possible 'next car' ideas.

*If I strike it rich, an Infiniti FX35 SUV, Porsche Cayman S, and a Mercedes-Benz C300 4-matic (We have 4.5 months of snow here)

*If I dont strike it rich, a sub $25,000 car. I'd like AWD and we're considering a Subaru imprezza, Ford fusion/mercury milan, Maybe a small SUV.

*Snow be damned, a Mazda Mx-5 Miata GT with a power folding hard top. And some snow tires.

If we consider used.....

*AWD BMW 3-series, Mercedes C class or an Infiniti G35x

*Japanese small SUV (Honda CRV, Toyota 4-runner)

I really have no faith in GM products anymore (Even my brother has abandoned Cadillac for Lincoln). Ford will certainly be considered but chrysler doesn't have anything in my range that I like (Vipers and Challenger SRT8's aren't very good snow cars, AWD Hemi C300 is a little pricey).

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1/31/09 at 6:07pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

Just freed myself of car payments.

2003 Focus just shy of 45,000 miles.

I don't think I will buy new again and I don't want to buy another car for a long time. I've even considered how life would be without a car whatsoever, but I think that's mostly wishful thinking at this point. I think I could do pretty well though.

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1/31/09 at 7:51pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

We're a one car family by choice. We own a 1991 Suburban, which has 242,000 miles on it. Every couple of years, we spend around $500-$1,000 on a used car purchased from our mechanic, who routinely sells cars from his home. Some day we may purchase a new car, but if so, it will be done with cash. We don't believe in financing (or leasing) a vehicle, and have not had a car payment in years.
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1/31/09 at 8:10pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

2004 Honda CR-V, just rolled over the 50K mark. Plus, my office is moving closer to my home this spring which will cut my commute from 40 miles daily to only about 12 miles.

Still runs great. Just replaced the rear brakes and bought all new tires in September. Should be good for several more years with regular maintenance. When I'm ready to change, I expect I'll probably buy another new Honda.

My first new car in 1994 was a Chevrolet. When I was ready to trade in 1997, got a jerk salesman who would barely give me the time of day, let alone help me with my purchase. So I left the Chevy lot and went to the Honda dealership instead, bought a Civic, and have been very satisfied for the past 12 years with Honda vehicles and service.

GM can suck it.

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1/31/09 at 8:17pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

My '96 Nissan P/U, which I've had for 4 years now, has about 112,000 and is probably good for another 112k. I'll most likely replace it in a couple of years as 5-6 years with the same vehicle is about it for me. But I no longer buy new. I find a real good used car and pay cash. If I had a wife/family I would probably buy new but for me used is O.K.

Classic cars is my other hobby and I own a '70 Fiat 124 Spyder and a '72 Mercedes 450 SL. With gas prices putting a scare into me and the fact the Merc is worth 3-4 times as much as the 124 I'll be selling the 450 this year or next, depending on how the classic/used car market is. The proceeds will go towards replacing the truck. At least that's the plan.
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2/1/09 at 6:35am
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Re: Your Next New Car

I'm done with new cars. My last purchase was a 2003 Toyota Tacoma double-cab 4x4 V-6 SR5 red/tan last August.

New bikes are a different story...

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Re: Your Next New Car

My car is a 2001 Honda Civic with about 90,000 miles (11,250 mi/yr) on it. My wife drive a 2006 CR-V with about 25,000 miles (10,000 mi/yr). I work from home but drive to see clients and my wife works about 4 miles away, so the only time we put any real mileage on a car is when we go on vacation or to Tallahassee for football games (6-8 times per fall, about 500 miles per trip).

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We don't believe in financing (or leasing) a vehicle, and have not had a car payment in years.

I believe in financing, so long as you don't overbuy and a re a disciplined spender. Excellent way to leverage your money, but you have to shop around for a good rate, not rely on the in-house financing automatically. Heck, on our most recent auto purchase, the APR on the 5-year loan was lower than the APY in our savings account by more than half a percent (and still is lower, though not by as much). In that case, financing was a no-brainer.
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2/1/09 at 7:36am
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Re: Your Next New Car

My cars are 2001 ,2002 with about 50k miles. I have no plans to replace any of them until new technologies come onto the market. Around 2010 or so we should have better generation hybrids and other technology alternatives.

I have 2 Fords and a Chevy and they are all fairly reliable. No need to replace anything for a few years.
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2/1/09 at 9:14am
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On the 2000 Chrysler Concorde you had to actually remove the passenger front wheel to change the battery! Who was smoking dope when that was designed?

I think we see one of the many reasons the big 3 are hurting, right there.

I own a 2007 Corolla, and it has 25,000 miles on it. I had a 97 Saturn, and it was a great car, but it was burning oil (bad), and i need reliability in a car. If not for that, i would have kept my Saturn as long as i could.
My wife drives a 2000 Passport. I dont know how many miles she has, but its paid for, and she is gonna keep it for as long as she can.
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2/1/09 at 9:34am
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Re: Your Next New Car

I have 07 Hyundai Sonata (completely paid for) with about 26K on the clock. Unless my finances change drastically, I don't see myself replacing it for 4-5 years. My last car, a Buick Regal GS, I had for 8 years and 110K miles.

I think the automakers are in big trouble and not just from the economy. I read an article several months back that noted that car ownership in relation to licensed drivers in the US was at an all time high. The implication was that even without the economic issues we are all facing, demand was still going to be declining.

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2/1/09 at 9:58am
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Re: Your Next New Car

I have a 99' Audi A4 quattro that has 124,000 miles on it. Haven't had to do anything to it other than regular maintenance. I did have a tie rod replaced that was 150$. I love the all wheel drive here in Michigan, and I even towed a guy out of a snow bank with it. I hope to have it another five to seven years.

My wife drives a 07' Envoy that the lease is up on this month. We will not be buying a new car, but are looking at something such as an 05-06 Nissan Maxima. You can get those at a very reasonable price and people seem to be very happy with them.
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2/1/09 at 4:34pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

If diesel were an option (too cold in Quebec -- the fuel might turn into syrup), possibly a VW Polo. Almost 1000 miles on a single tank!

To actually reach 1000 miles on a single tank, a Jaguar XJ6 Twin Turbo Diesel!
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2/1/09 at 4:54pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

We've got an '04 Accord with 67k and an '05 Camry with 45k miles. I think we'll drive them to 10 yrs / 100k and then buy new. I hope my next car to be a smaller, more fuel efficient car; but after driving the relatively luxurious Accord, it would be difficult to take a step down in comfort. In my dreamy moments, I hope for a plug-in electric next.

So this thread is full of people with 15 year old, 200k mile cars. I look like a profligate spender in comparison. But our economy and auto industry is built on the new-car-every-three-years buyers and repeat leasers. Where are they? Surely this thread is far from representative.
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2/1/09 at 5:37pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

Our 2005 Saturn Ion 2 (w/ just ~16K miles) recently got totalled, so we're looking into getting a "new" car right now -- probably a gently used, few-yo minivan (either Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna). Seems like a good time to shop for one now -- and maybe our old car got totalled at just the right time, if there's such a thing. Nobody was hurt because our car was parked when it got hit (and we were not anywhere near it). The other driver's insurance company just paid us pretty good $$$ for the claim (and all probably went as smoothly as could be).

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2/1/09 at 5:46pm
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So this thread is full of people with 15 year old, 200k mile cars. I look like a profligate spender in comparison. But our economy and auto industry is built on the new-car-every-three-years buyers and repeat leasers. Where are they? Surely this thread is far from representative.
I hope it is far from representative. I am beginning to get depressed and think it is time for a career change. Now maybe if I asked about old the TV was and when the next display will be purchased.
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2/1/09 at 8:35pm
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Now maybe if I asked about old the TV was and when the next display will be purchased.
27" CRT, about 10 years old and still going strong. No current plans to buy anything new.

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2/1/09 at 9:05pm
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Re: Your Next New Car

Got an 02 Kia Spectra with just over 60k. Looking at getting an 09 Saturn Sky Redline or 09 Nissan 370z sometime this spring. The Kia is a PoS and I doubt would last to 100k but it has served its purpose. I'm doing much better now than I was last year so definitely time for a new car. It also helps that it is a buyers market and getting invoice or below invoice is pretty easy.
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2/2/09 at 9:48am
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Re: Your Next New Car

My wife worked for GM until a few years ago so we were trapped in that spiral where you had to buy or lease a new vehicle every two years in order to get a company car (essentially two cars for the price of one). So we have an '05 Saturn Relay which was financed at 0%APR and an '06 Saturn Vue which was leased at 0%APR. We're coming to the tail end of the last lease and I'm looking forward to going back to buying used vehicles with cash.

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2/2/09 at 10:29am
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27" CRT, about 10 years old and still going strong. No current plans to buy anything new.
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