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Bill Hunt has listed this in his Rumor Mill as one of the catalog titles that Warners is working on for a 2009 release. If true, it's about time! My DVD of this movie is 11 years old, the original MGM disc. It has been re-released by Warners, but not remastered. Same 11 year old transfer. While adequate for the early days of DVD it is anything but by today's standards.

I hope Warners takes the time to remaster and clean up this film as it will benefit tremendously from the HD treatment. From it's excellent cinematography and production design to it's underrated score by Jerry Goldsmith, this should look and sound fantastic on Blu. The work Warners did on the 2001: A Space Odyssey Blu shows me what they're capable of.

One of my childhood (and admittedly adult) favorites has long been one of the films most in need of a new transfer/disc. Not only a new disc this year, but on Blu to boot. Can't wait to see the specs. And Warners, please, no DNR!
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1/31/09 at 10:01am
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Its one of my favorites too. Not to mention Jenny Augeter (sp?). She was the first girl i ever saw without a top, or anything else on. Stuck in a 13 y/o boys mind for years. Heck, i am 45 now, still stuck in my mind!
But, yes, it does offer more than her. Peter Ustinov's best role, if you ask me. Its a good movie, even if the effects are a tad dated now.
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Its a good movie, even if the effects are a tad dated now.

They were dated the day the film was released! The little model city at the start was a hoot. Still a fun film though.

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Not to quibble, but they became dated when Star Wars was released. Prior to SW, effects as you see in Logan's Run were the norm. The model city was pretty cool IMHO.

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First time I ever saw nudity in a movie. Could they even get away with that much in a PG film now?

The short-lived tv series based on the movie would be a nice extra.
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Those dated effects won an Oscar in 1977. Hard to believe, huh? The CG visual effects in Jurassic Park look dated, and that's a much newer film. You can say that about a lot of movies. They are, like all films, products of their time. It doesn't lessen my enjoyment of them one iota. I still enjoy the visual effects in King Kong (1933) just as much as I do those in The Dark Knight. It's all good to me, even if it's 'bad' compared to what we have today.

Logan's Run is no exception.
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The CG visual effects in Jurassic Park look dated

Please. I'd say JURASSIC PARK's effects are still in the top five CG effects in film history, and it took over a decade, with effects like CHRONICLES OF NARNIA's Aslan and the revamped KING KONG before CG ever began to match the photorealistic bar of quality set by JP in '93.
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I think this is very encouraging, if it's true. Personally, I do not have an interest in LOGAN'S RUN, but it may open the door for two similar films of the sci-fi '70s I want in this genre -- WESTWORLD and SOYLENT GREEN.
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Those dated effects won an Oscar in 1977.

I'd like to think that was more for the Washington DC matte paintings than the model city, but, we'll never know.

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People can criticize so-called "dated effects" all they like; I'll take ANY of 'em over crap like a CGI cartoon Hulk.
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Its one of my favorites too. Not to mention Jenny Augeter (sp?). She was the first girl i ever saw without a top, or anything else on. Stuck in a 13 y/o boys mind for years. Heck, i am 45 now, still stuck in my mind!
But, yes, it does offer more than her. Peter Ustinov's best role, if you ask me. Its a good movie, even if the effects are a tad dated now.
This will be a certain addition to the collection (Jenny Agutter--mmmm...excuse me, where was I? ). However, I have to say Ustinov's best role has to be in Spartacus.

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Please. I'd say JURASSIC PARK's effects are still in the top five CG effects in film history, and it took over a decade, with effects like CHRONICLES OF NARNIA's Aslan and the revamped KING KONG before CG ever began to match the photorealistic bar of quality set by JP in '93.

JP is still impressive, just not as much as it was in '93. The CG dinosaurs in JP do not look photorealistic to me. It's quite apparent to me that many of the dinos are CG creations. YMMV. I still love the movie though.

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People can criticize so-called "dated effects" all they like; I'll take ANY of 'em over crap like a CGI cartoon Hulk.

Right on Joe, my sentiments exactly.
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People can criticize so-called "dated effects" all they like; I'll take ANY of 'em over crap like a CGI cartoon Hulk.

Let me just add, that while i do find the effects dated, i still enjoy them immensely! Some fantastic model work, and some of the most amazing matte paintings ever done. Like i say, its a good movie.
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This is one of those films that has always stuck with me and IMHO right in there with Outland and Screamers; two other films that deserve the BD trreatment!

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It would be great if this was coming this year, but I'd still say it would be more likely if it was coming next year around the time the remake is released.
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I think this is very encouraging, if it's true. Personally, I do not have an interest in LOGAN'S RUN, but it may open the door for two similar films of the sci-fi '70s I want in this genre -- WESTWORLD and SOYLENT GREEN.

If you want Soylent Green and Westworld then you'd better pray those get remade as CGI extravaganzas in the near future cause that's the only way they'll make it out on Blu-ray.
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2/1/09 at 11:42am
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There was a deluxe laserdisc of Logan's Run that had many extras not ported over to the SD release. I hope they could be found as well.
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Re: Logan's Run BD this year?!

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People can criticize so-called "dated effects" all they like; I'll take ANY of 'em over crap like a CGI cartoon Hulk.

At least the CGI Hulk actually approaches the look of the comic character. That is more than I can say for painting a musclehead green. I don't get the hate for CGI characters, even when their use is appropriate. There are some characters, especially in comics, that dictate the use of CGI because real actors can never approach the proportions required.

There are a lot more movies that deserve to be released on BD before Logan's Run. LR hasn't aged well in almost any regard.

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My problem with the LR effects is not that they're dated, but cheesy. The Roscoe Lee Browne robot looks silly compared to, say, Robby the Robot, made a full 20 years earlier. The guns with the little flame jets also looked silly compared to earlier ray gun effects.
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I don't think the Sandmen guns were ever meant to be like ray guns. Especially since there are lasers elsewhere in the film.

It's kind of interesting the hologram FX in the Star Wars films seem more "real" to people than the real ones of Michael York in the interrogation scene.
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At least the CGI Hulk actually approaches the look of the comic character. That is more than I can say for painting a musclehead green.

Forget the TV show and Lou Ferrigno for a moment. For the movies, they could have found a bigger guy, or used a suit. For The Thing of THE FANTASTIC FOUR a suit was used - not a cartoon figure. Surely the advanced prosthetics and makeup techniques of the 21st century could produce a more realistic Hulk than just painting a muscleman green (though I still would have preferred that to a cartoon figure who's not actually physically present).

I'm a big fan of The Hulk comic, having a complete collection from 1962 to around 1990... and I can assure you that the Hulk was NOT always this 12-foot giant. For some reason the filmmakers think he's got to be like a King Kong or something. Check out some of the HULK comics, especially those drawn by Herb Trimpe and Sal Buscema ... the Hulk is rather compact, actually. According to the intro at the beginning of each comic book, it says that the Hulk is about 7 feet tall. Not 15-20! Many times in the history of the comic, he doesn't even look that big alongside his human friends like Jim Wilson and Betty Ross.

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There are a lot more movies that deserve to be released on BD before Logan's Run. LR hasn't aged well in almost any regard.

As far as I'm concerned, most of the current usless movies already on Blu-ray don't "deserve" to be released, compared to older catalogue classics. But I'd rather see a LOGAN'S RUN over a movie with The Rock, for example.
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2/2/09 at 3:21am
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If you want Soylent Green and Westworld then you'd better pray those get remade as CGI extravaganzas in the near future cause that's the only way they'll make it out on Blu-ray.

Maybe. But are they remaking LOGAN'S RUN? Did they remake 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY?
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2/2/09 at 4:19am
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Maybe. But are they remaking LOGAN'S RUN? Did they remake 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY?

(What is this, Groundhog Day? it's not as if it's already been mentioned in this thread already)

Yes, they are remaking Logan's Run. It's due out in 2010.

I don't think I'd need to explain to you why Warner released 2001:ASO, one of their most popular and bigger selling catalog titles on Blu-ray without something to tie it to, do I?

A minor cult film like Omega Man would never have gotten a BD release this early into the format without I Am Legend hitting theaters. The same applies to Westworld and Soylent Green but you're in luck because there are glorious CGI remakes planned for both of those.












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For the movies, they could have found a bigger guy, or used a suit. For The Thing of THE FANTASTIC FOUR a suit was used - not a cartoon figure.
In the FF movies, The Thing spends most of his time onscreen talking with the other characters but The Hulk spends almost of his screentime rampaging. I'm not saying that CG is perfect or always the right way to go but I can see why they did it with The Hulk.
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In the FF movies, The Thing spends most of his time onscreen talking with the other characters but The Hulk spends almost of his screentime rampaging. I'm not saying that CG is perfect or always the right way to go but I can see why they did it with The Hulk.

Which reminds me of the BIGGEST mistake with the Hulk movies - the guy's supposed to talk. He did so in the comics, and not just a sentence or two at the end. This would have made the creature the sympathetic sort he was in the comics, but this is a topic for another thread...
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(What is this, Groundhog Day? it's not as if it's already been mentioned in this thread already)

Yes, they are remaking Logan's Run. It's due out in 2010.

I don't think I'd need to explain to you why Warner released 2001:ASO, one of their most popular and bigger selling catalog titles on Blu-ray without something to tie it to, do I?

A minor cult film like Omega Man would never have gotten a BD release this early into the format without I Am Legend hitting theaters. The same applies to Westworld and Soylent Green but you're in luck because there are glorious CGI remakes planned for both of those.

Laugh away -- I couldn't care less about a WESTWORLD or SOYLENT GREEN remake (neither needs wild CGI effects by the way). If it makes a Blu-ray of either get released, then so be it. But they've been talking about those two remakes forever.

Yeah, THE OMEGA MAN only came out because of that weak LAST MAN ON EARTH -- you know, the one where they even had to make the mutant survivors in CGI? Couldn't even get actors for them, huh?
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2/2/09 at 7:48am
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"I think this is very encouraging, if it's true. Personally, I do not have an interest in LOGAN'S RUN, but it may open the door for two similar films of the sci-fi '70s I want in this genre -- WESTWORLD and SOYLENT GREEN."

For what it's worth, either HDNET MOVIES or MGMHD has shown WESTWORLD in HD, so a HD transfer has already been done. It looked and sounded pretty good, too. Too bad Michael Crichton is no longer with us, as I always wanted to hear more of his audio commentaries.
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If you want Soylent Green and Westworld then you'd better pray those get remade as CGI extravaganzas in the near future cause that's the only way they'll make it out on Blu-ray.

I don't see why this is necessary since Soylent arrived on DVD a few years back, and The Omega Man *was* released on BD.
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Hopefully Warner Brothers will not feel the need to remix the audio on LOGAN's RUN. This was one of the last live action 35mm films to aggressively use directional dialog.
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Not to quibble, but they became dated when Star Wars was released. Prior to SW, effects as you see in Logan's Run were the norm. The model city was pretty cool IMHO.
I've been revisiting UFO, the Anderson live action series that followed Thunderbirds, etc. The effects were really amazing seeing as it was 1969. It's a shame the makers of Logan's Run didn't get them to do it. Same goes for Silent Running.

Anyway, I'll update my old DVD, which was the first one I paid $5 for many many years ago.

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