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Star Trek DVD news: Star Trek - Season 1 on Blu-ray | TVShowsOnDVD.com

I might as well begin this thread now since this is the first announcement I've seen about Star Trek TOS coming on Blu-ray in May, timed to the launch of the movie, of course.

Sad to say, for my wallet, I haven't even gotten around to screening my original DVD season sets of the show, but I will have to get these. But it is a particularly smart marketing move to include the original versions (for purists) as well as the re-mastered versions of each episode.

Will all you other fans be going Blu for this release? I suppose it might be smarter to wait for the complete TOS series set on Blu-ray in one package at a discounted price, but some of us blasphemers really do try and avoid the third season.
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The last pass I took at collecting ST:TOS was with the 2-episode disc collections from 10 years ago or so, and having recently purchased a Blu-ray player and loving every minute of it, I am happily double-dipping with this set.
In my opinion, this is the ultimate collection, the very best way to enjoy the series for die-hard fans. You get both versions of the episodes, and most likely the extras from the SD season sets will be ported over as well (and maybe perhaps some new stuff?)

Can't wait!
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I am by no means a Trek fan, but I grew up watching the reruns on the CBC, so I have fond memories of the show. I'll likely buy the Blu-ray sets because I'm sure the show will look fantastic (cheap sets and all) on HD. I prefer the original 60s version, but I'm curious about the remastered FX. Having checked the episodes on tv.com, I see that there a number of really bad episodes (Spock's Brain immediately comes to mind), but even the bad episodes are entertaining in a kitschy way.
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I'm not sure if I will ever purchase these. I'm perfectly satisfied with the DVDs I now own, and I think many of the defects that are existent in the original prints would be augmented in an unnatural way in Blu-ray. (For my own part, I liken it in some ways to how a CD, for all of the positives inherent in the format, can often times produce an 'unreal' aural performance.) But if I ever do purchase a Blue-ray of anything, TOS would be the first one I would purchase.

BTW, I love season three, and have no problems with any of the episodes from that season.
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Will they be revamping them as was done for the HD DVD season 1 set? My recollection was that Toshiba was funding that and I doubt very much Toshiba will be inclined to do that for Blu-ray.

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All the effects were done at HD resolution for the syndicated run. What Toshiba was funding, IIRC, was all the HDi extras and encoding (the pop-up stuff, which was a very nice example of how well that sort of extra can be done). Paramount is likely doing porting the Season One stuff and doing the S2 & S3 stuff themselves.

Anyway, I'll be holding off until Season 2, since it would likely be an expensive upgrade over my HD DVDs, especially if the original versions of the episodes are only SD. But, yes, I'll be all over them - the HD DVD version of Season 1 is fantastic.
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I seriously doubt these will be the covers for the American releases simply because they are way too generic. How could you not feature iconic images of the Enterprise or the cast? Perhaps in Europe, Shatner's mug and Nimoy's ears are not as crucial selling elements. But for homegrown fans, I think we expect something a little more creative and personal than these boring covers.
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I'm definitely in for these sets. I've never seen the remastered episodes and am very interested in seeing them at last. I have no problem with getting all 3 seasons as even some of the bad episodes are fun.....well, the episode with the singing space hippies kind of tests my statement in that regard.
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I agree that the covers are generic, but the studio might be looking to avoid cast member pictures so as not to discourage the new audience they are hoping to bring in with the new movie.

Do we yet know if the original and remastered episodes are included?


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I think the UK article mentioned that both versions would be included, but this being Paramount, I wouldn't be surprised if the "original effects" versions are in standard (DVD) resolution only (i.e. just straight port-overs from the earlier DVDs). Would be their typical cost-cutting.
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I'm definitely in for these sets. I've never seen the remastered episodes and am very interested in seeing them at last. I have no problem with getting all 3 seasons as even some of the bad episodes are fun.....well, the episode with the singing space hippies kind of tests my statement in that regard.
And that would be the episode that tips the scale in favor of my purchasing the set.
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I seriously doubt these will be the covers for the American releases simply because they are way too generic. How could you not feature iconic images of the Enterprise or the cast?

Yes, because the original season sets on DVD had such huge images of the cast and the ship.

No, Sam's right...the idea is to not show the cast or the ship, just the Starfleet logo that is iconic to all the Jim/Spock/Bones incarnations of the series, so as to best tie in these releases with the new JJ Abrams film.

The ship and the cast faces change a bit in the new movie, but those logos remain the same!
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Yes, because the original season sets on DVD had such huge images of the cast and the ship.

No, Sam's right...the idea is to not show the cast or the ship, just the Starfleet logo that is iconic to all the Jim/Spock/Bones incarnations of the series, so as to best tie in these releases with the new JJ Abrams film.

The ship and the cast faces change a bit in the new movie, but those logos remain the same!

My original season set DVD has Kirk and Spock framed prominently in the front window of the plastic case, which is about as conpicuous as you can get.

But I can understand how, from a sterile marketing decision, it makes sense to emphasize a lifeless insignia instead of a character for the continuity of the franchise, and at the expense of any nostalgia. They've already milked boomers for all they're worth, so try to lure a newer audience, and don't show them anything or anyone they might think is dated or lame.
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They could release it on fairy dust and I couldn't enjoy it more than when I watched it on a lousy TV in the 70s. A re-release is a re-release is a re-release. I couldn't be more content with my discs. But then I've actually watched them. A great show.
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FYI- We've been discussing this in the HTF Hi-Def Software section!

The main issue we've been hoping is true is the original episodes as aired are included as hi-def with the original optical effects and titles music. That would make this release the more desirable. You can read it here:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ow-so-far.html
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Sounds like both the original episodes and the remasters will be on these discs, in 1080p.

Great move by the studio. Certainly insures that many of us will upgrade.


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Sounds like both the original episodes and the remasters will be on these discs, in 1080p.

Great move by the studio. Certainly insures that many of us will upgrade.

Yes, here's the official information from The Digital Bits about the April 28th release of Star Trek TOS on Blu-ray. Both versions will be on the discs, and the original version episodes will be full screen 1080p, as well.

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And it looks like the European box art is the same for the U.S. release. Some of the motion picture covers are featured here, as well.

And, sure, this thread belongs in this section on classic television where most Star Trek fans would be looking and not in something as generically titled as HD software.
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And, sure, this thread belongs in this section on classic television where most Star Trek fans would be looking and not in something as generically titled as HD software.

Well, no, as this section is entitled "SD DVD - TV Shows and TV Movies" and a Blu-ray is in no way shape or form a SD DVD.

"HD software" is hardly generic--it's very specific, and the only section here where Blu-ray discussion belongs.

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Well, no, as this section is entitled "SD DVD - TV Shows and TV Movies" and a Blu-ray is in no way shape or form a SD DVD.

"HD software" is hardly generic--it's very specific, and the only section here where Blu-ray discussion belongs.

There are no Blu-rays or DVDs in the software section at my local Best Buy, or probably any other B&M I know of and that fans of DVDs frequent. If you're looking for Blu-rays or DVDs of televison you will find them in the ... wait for it ... DVD section, and under TV Shows. But then, I don't think like an engineer, I'm just a consumer and a classic TV fan.
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Well, no, as this section is entitled "SD DVD - TV Shows and TV Movies" and a Blu-ray is in no way shape or form a SD DVD.

"HD software" is hardly generic--it's very specific, and the only section here where Blu-ray discussion belongs.

Actually, Jay (and everyone else), I'd like to point out that last August there was a four-way discussion between Ron and Parker, and Gord and myself. Ron said he had a concern with this very thing. I hope he won't mind me quoting his e-mail to us:

"I could use your help on this. Right now all BD material is being posted in the BD area specifically. Should we post all BD TV product in the sDVD TV forum? Perhaps we should. We could also just expand the description of our current BD area to include TV, but I think that might take away activity from a TV forum that is working in conjunction with your site."

The "Insider's Area" was recently created at that time, and one solution discussed was to move all TV discussions, SD or BD, to a "TVShowsOnDVD" section of an insider's area. Neither Gord nor I thought that this was a good idea, though, because we didn't want to move TV discussion away from this rather firmly-established area. I think Ron was just trying to be nice enough to extend an offer for our own "insider" area, in any case. Here is an abbreviated version of my (as-always wordy) reply to Ron:

"We don't need our own "Insider's" area, because the TV-on-DVD area seems to do just fine. Then again, it could potentially be a solution to the issue of "where do people go when they want to talk about TV releases, that are on both standard DVD and on BD?" On the third hand, if it's a film in question, like Iron Man for instance, then people will go to the DVD area to talk about it, unless they go to the BD area to talk about the hi-def version. So I ask myself "why should TV be any different?" Probably best in the end to leave everything just the way it is. It seems to be working well enough; just a tad bit of confusion for the BDs...but right now it's hand-able."

Gord agreed, stating that "I'd rather see the TV section stay the way it is, with BDs added in to keep everything in one place."

Ron agreed with that solution, saying that BD discussion of TV shows would be welcome in the SD area (this section) if that's where the users decided to put it, and that it would also be fine in the BD Software section.

Neither Gord nor I get to hang out at HTF any more as much as we want...there's so much going on. I've been showing up a bit lately, but I know that it will tail off again soon. So, speaking for myself, I only check out the TV section (this one) whenever I do visit; although I love Blu-ray and I've always loved movie releases in standard def, too...you just don't see my name on posts in those sections because I never make it to them. I do lurk in the Bargain forum, specifically the Weekly Roundup (because I founded it years ago, before retiring and passing the baton to Mr. Frezon, and because Mike's work on it saves me money, of course!). But if you want me to discuss a TV release, SD or BD, better talk about it over here. I suspect Gord is the same way, but don't take my word for it...better ask him.

But yeah, unless something's changed in the past six months, Ron's cool with TV-on-BD discussions in this area. I doubt it will change until the TV-BD genre ramps up to be significantly larger than it is. Until then, I'm pretty sure that talking about it in either part of the HTF is cool enough with the owners...unless they say otherwise.
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Actually, Jay (and everyone else), I'd like to point out that last August there was a four-way discussion between Ron and Parker, and Gord and myself. Ron said he had a concern with this very thing. I hope he won't mind me quoting his e-mail to us:

"I could use your help on this. Right now all BD material is being posted in the BD area specifically. Should we post all BD TV product in the sDVD TV forum? Perhaps we should. We could also just expand the description of our current BD area to include TV, but I think that might take away activity from a TV forum that is working in conjunction with your site."

The "Insider's Area" was recently created at that time, and one solution discussed was to move all TV discussions, SD or BD, to a "TVShowsOnDVD" section of an insider's area. Neither Gord nor I thought that this was a good idea, though, because we didn't want to move TV discussion away from this rather firmly-established area. I think Ron was just trying to be nice enough to extend an offer for our own "insider" area, in any case. Here is an abbreviated version of my (as-always wordy) reply to Ron:

"We don't need our own "Insider's" area, because the TV-on-DVD area seems to do just fine. Then again, it could potentially be a solution to the issue of "where do people go when they want to talk about TV releases, that are on both standard DVD and on BD?" On the third hand, if it's a film in question, like Iron Man for instance, then people will go to the DVD area to talk about it, unless they go to the BD area to talk about the hi-def version. So I ask myself "why should TV be any different?" Probably best in the end to leave everything just the way it is. It seems to be working well enough; just a tad bit of confusion for the BDs...but right now it's hand-able."

Gord agreed, stating that "I'd rather see the TV section stay the way it is, with BDs added in to keep everything in one place."

Ron agreed with that solution, saying that BD discussion of TV shows would be welcome in the SD area (this section) if that's where the users decided to put it, and that it would also be fine in the BD Software section.

Neither Gord nor I get to hang out at HTF any more as much as we want...there's so much going on. I've been showing up a bit lately, but I know that it will tail off again soon. So, speaking for myself, I only check out the TV section (this one) whenever I do visit; although I love Blu-ray and I've always loved movie releases in standard def, too...you just don't see my name on posts in those sections because I never make it to them. I do lurk in the Bargain forum, specifically the Weekly Roundup (because I founded it years ago, before retiring and passing the baton to Mr. Frezon, and because Mike's work on it saves me money, of course!). But if you want me to discuss a TV release, SD or BD, better talk about it over here. I suspect Gord is the same way, but don't take my word for it...better ask him.

But yeah, unless something's changed in the past six months, Ron's cool with TV-on-BD discussions in this area. I doubt it will change until the TV-BD genre ramps up to be significantly larger than it is. Until then, I'm pretty sure that talking about it in either part of the HTF is cool enough with the owners...unless they say otherwise.

Thanks for the background information and clarification, David. Like you and Gord, I pretty much just head for the TV Shows section as my primary interest, so I wouldn't have thought to look for a show, BD or otherwise, somewhere else. But I respect that option, even if I don't look there.

And, as far as I know, Star Trek is the first classic TV show to get the BD treatment, but I hope for some others (The Outer Limits is due for a serious upgrade if anyone is listening?) And I expect to see other more recent BD TV show talk in here as other BD adopters come aboard (I think we did Mad Men already).
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And I expect to see other more recent BD TV show talk in here as other BD adopters come aboard (I think we did Mad Men already).
Most of the TV shows that have come out on Blu-ray (Mad Men, Lost, Supernatural, Band Of Brothers, Star Trek, The Sopranos) have had threads in the HD section. Not to say that that's the rule but it just seems like right now, people starting threads use the HD section as a catch all for any HD title.
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The way I figure it, it's probably just a matter of time before the HD areas merge with their respective SD areas. Most of the concerns about HD movie/TV releases aren't really HD-specific these days - there's much less format worrying than there was a year or two ago - and as more people get BD, more of the conversations will start to be duplicated.
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And, as far as I know, Star Trek is the first classic TV show to get the BD treatment, but I hope for some others (The Outer Limits is due for a serious upgrade if anyone is listening?)

You are correct, sir.

I would think Twilight Zone would be a huge candidate for Blu-ray release, but probably only after Trek tests the waters (and the installed base of possible customers has grown a bit more, too).
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I'm fine with BD discussion here in the old TV section. I hope this discussion stays here.

Sounds like good content for the Trek BDs; glad to see the original and remastered versions together. The packaging sure could have been sharper though - those original TOS cases were pretty cool.


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This explains why the BD thread for the new Star Trek TOS S1 blu ray release was a bit quiet after the press release was posted Monday in that thread!
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But yeah, unless something's changed in the past six months, Ron's cool with TV-on-BD discussions in this area.

What's cool with Ron is cool with me, but there really should be only one place for discussion of a particular subject. Right now we have two threads about the same thing in different sections, and apparently both of them "belong" where they are. Can't we pick one?

(In the meantime, by all means continue, folks. )

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Too bad posts can't be "simul-posted" to both threads at the same time!

Thought you guys might be interested to know that in addition to the new Blu ray release, there will be a standard definition release box set called The Best of Star Trek that has TOS episodes. And a similar Best of box set for The Next Generation.

Each box has 4 epidoes each and is $14.99 and out May 12. No surprises for the titles chosen.

The City on the Edge of Forever
The Trouble with Tribbles
Balance of Terror
Amok Time

The Best of Both Worlds (Part 1)
The Best of Both Worlds (Part 2)
Yesterday’s Enterprise
The Measure of a Man

Details here: http://trekmovie.com/2009/02/17/artw...-tos-dvd-sets/
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Since we have two threads on Star Trek TOS on Blu ray, I'll post this in both threads:

Amazon has a listing and pricing for the first season box set. It's listed now at $129.99. Amazon price is $90.99. A little higher then I guessed. But it could change between now and then.

Amazon.com: Star Trek: Original Series - Season 1 (7pc) (Ws) [Blu-ray]: William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, Gene Roddenberry, Nichelle Nichols: Movies & TV
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I paid no more then half that for the SDs. I think the SD are good enough for me for quite a wile.
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