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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Yes, this Netgear device is actually marketed as a wireless print server. It just happens to have four ethernet switch ports as well as the 802.11b/g wireless LAN and two USB ports. So, it functions as a wireless bridge even though it's intended market is as a wireless print server.

If your Linksys print server has one or more ethernet ports built-in, it should work similarly to the Netgear device.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
This is pretty scary that there is no Mac setup software. I may
have needlessly spent my money on this product.

I can log into windows on my Mac. The problem is, it may not
let me configure the Netgear unit. I just had a Fios installer here
the other day who could not setup the Verizon router through my
Virtual PC software on my Mac.

I could be in trouble here.
Maybe configuring is different with the print server device you have, but wouldn't it perhaps be possible to access the setup screen via a web browser? I'm using an older Linksys WRT54G 4-port wireless-G router reconfigured to function as a wireless bridge using DD-WRT; I was able to access the setup screen by typing in its IP address in my web browser--this of course requires that the device first be connected directly to the PC (or laptop) via wired Ethernet. Alternately, it could be connected directly to your main access point/router (via wired connection)--just make sure that the device is on the same subnet/network as the AP, and that it doesn't share the same IP address (default IP address out of the box is typically 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1).
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Ron, with my D-Link here is the procedure and I would assume its the same for the netgear to setup the print server.

1. Connect to Print server to Wireless router with Ethernet cable
2. Open an internet window and type http://dlinkps-(last six numbers of MAC address.
3. Click on setup to access wireless setup. Select ON
4. Select Wireless network, and Infrastructure(connected to wireless router and Ad-Hoc if connecting to a wireless computer
5. Select security access and enter password.
6. Save settings and exit.
7. Disconnect the Ethernet cable and hook your print server up where you want in the house and hook up the gear.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Tony and Kevin,

You are lifesavers. No need to worry about installing software --
especially for this Mac user.

Questions (Since I am a real novice at this stuff)....

1. How do I find out my MAC address to complete the dlink browser address?

2. Once connected to my main router, I take it that per #4 the
wireless network now in my home should immediately come up?

3. Finally, I am piggybacking my Apple Airport Extreme router off of the
Verizon Fios router (which is the main router). Does it matter which router
I plug the Netgear into to configure? I take it that it's a LAN -> LAN connection?

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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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This Netgear print server is being used at the opposite end of
the house. I plan to use it for two inputs: A BD player for BD LIVE
purposes and my TIVO so I can eliminate the slow phone connection.
Your gear will communicate through the print server

Should this print server automatically pick up the wireless signal
in my home?
you have to set it up in the print server setup menu

Since I have WEP security, I take it that both the TIVO and BD PLAYER
will recognize the hardwire ethernet connection and their software will
allow me to enter that security code?
done only in the print server
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Tony and Kevin,

You are lifesavers. No need to worry about installing software --
especially for this Mac user.

Questions (Since I am a real novice at this stuff)....

1. How do I find out my MAC address to complete the dlink browser address?
Check the tag on the bottom or back that also has the serial number

2. Once connected to my main router, I take it that per #4 the
wireless network now in my home should immediately come up?
Connect to the main wireless router as this is what the print server is talking too

3. Finally, I am piggybacking my Apple Airport Extreme router off of the
Verizon Fios router (which is the main router). Does it matter which router
I plug the Netgear into to configure? I take it that it's a LAN -> LAN connection?
I assume you Fios router is not wireless, so hook to your Apple AE router as this is what the print server is talking too

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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Okay, first of all, I received the Netgear unit yesterday. Whether
it was posted anywhere or not, this is a REFURB unit. Normally I
would never purchase anything REFURB but for what I am doing here
I suppose it is no major deal.

In any case, per the instructions above I am having difficulty
getting into the Netgear via the browser.

The last 6 digits on the MAC ADDRESS are: A17F3C

So, technically, the browser address should be:

http://dlinkps-a17f3c

Not working.

The official Netgear webpage states the following...

Quote:
The MAC address displayed on the bottom label of the WGPS606 is the device MAC address and not the wireless MAC address.

If I use the default IP address of: 192.168.1.1
It brings up the Verizon Router configuration tool, not the Netgear

Anyone wish to help?

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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
If I use the default IP address of: 192.168.1.1
It brings up the Verizon Router configuration tool, not the Netgear

Don't know about using the MAC address for this, but my ancient D-Link wireless router uses 192.168.0.1 for its IP. Did you try that also?

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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Man,

Does not work...but it should, shouldn't it.

Perhaps it is my connection.

The Verizon is the main router. The Apple Airport Router is piggybacked
on it, so that is the router I plugged it into. The Apple Router also
transmits the wireless (WiFi) signal.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Okay, first of all, I received the Netgear unit yesterday. Whether
it was posted anywhere or not, this is a REFURB unit. Normally I
would never purchase anything REFURB but for what I am doing here
I suppose it is no major deal.

In any case, per the instructions above I am having difficulty
getting into the Netgear via the browser.

The last 6 digits on the MAC ADDRESS are: A17F3C

So, technically, the browser address should be:

http://dlinkps-a17f3c

Not working.

Ron,

That is a procedure for a dlink print server, yet you bought a Netgear. So I doubt a weblink address starting with http://dlink will work. Maybe try http://netgear instead?
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
The Verizon is the main router. The Apple Airport Router is piggybacked
on it, so that is the router I plugged it into. The Apple Router also
transmits the wireless (WiFi) signal.
I'm not sure, but doesn't it sound like Ron is having a conflict with IP addresses?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Okay, first of all, I received the Netgear unit yesterday. Whether
it was posted anywhere or not, this is a REFURB unit. Normally I
would never purchase anything REFURB but for what I am doing here
I suppose it is no major deal.

In any case, per the instructions above I am having difficulty
getting into the Netgear via the browser.

The last 6 digits on the MAC ADDRESS are: A17F3C

So, technically, the browser address should be:

http://dlinkps-a17f3c

Not working.

The official Netgear webpage states the following...



If I use the default IP address of: 192.168.1.1
It brings up the Verizon Router configuration tool, not the Netgear

Anyone wish to help?

Thanks

Sorry Ron the procedure I typed was for my dlink. Here is what I pulled off netgears website.

How to Log in Using the IP Address of the WGPS606
1. The Smart Wizard on the WGPS606 CD guides you through the process of assigning an IP
address based on the addressing scheme used in your network. If you used the Setup Wizard to
perform the initial configuration, you will need to use the IP address assigned at that time.
Otherwise, 192.168.0.102 is the default IP address of your wireless USB print server. So, if the
WGPS606 has not yet been installed, and there is no DHCP server on the network, you can log
in to the WGPS606 using its default IP address.
Note: The computer you are using to connect to the WGPS606 should be configured with a
static IP address that starts with 192.168.0.x and a Subnet Mask of 255.255.255.0.
2. Open a Web browser such as Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator.
3. Connect to the WGPS606 by entering its IP address into your browser

Ron I read over on epinions that this print server is not MAC friendly. My Dlink took all of 5mins to setup. Make sure you have MAC filtering turned off on your router till set up.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Kevin and all, thanks for all your assistance.

It looks like I am SOL.

I tried bringing up 192.168.0.102 on my browser. No connection.

I then went into my Virtual PC and installed the Netgear setup client
on Windows XP. It could not detect the device.

Kevin, you suggested turning MAC filtering off. Which of the three
routers should I do this to? I take it that it's a simple thing to find?

I have not given up yet, but I am not optimistic that I am going to
get this set up anytime soon.

Thanks again for the help. Happy New Year!
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Ron, Netgear reccomends using a PC to configure the device before doing anything on a Mac. From their web site, the default IP is definitely 192.168.0.102, so the PC side should see it. Perhaps try a reset and then see if the PC sees it?
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Also, Ron, make sure your Mac is connected to one of the ethernet ports on the Netgear print server, and has a 192.168.0.x address (other than 102). It does not appear that the Netgear has a web interface, since I cannot connect to mine at all via a browser, even after it is configured. If you are going to have any success configuring the device, it's going to be using the setup utility on the Virtual PC of your Mac.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Scott,

That's a new suggestion. Make sure my MAC is connected to the
NetGear print server?

You do realize by doing that I will have to disconnect it from the
Internet line temporarily.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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Scott,You do realize by doing that I will have to disconnect it from the
Internet line temporarily.
You're supposed to connect it directly to the computer when you set up the device. Once it's set up, then you connect it to the network.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Mark,

See there are now differentiating opinions on what to do.

First, I am told to hook the Netgear to my Apple Router which
is transmitting the wireless signal.

Then, another tells me to hook the Mac directly to the Netgear device
which doesn't make sense since I will have to disconnect the Internet
feed.

You tell me to hook the Netgear directly up to the Mac. By what Method>

I do have a USB cable I can run.

I
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Ron, I'm not 100% familiar with your device, but almost all wireless devices need to be setup first before connecting to your wireless network. You basically connect to the device directly to the computer, let the setup see the device (via the software or browser), tell it what settings it needs to know, save the settings in it's memory, then when you disconnect it from your computer it will know how to access your wireless router.

In it's default state, it doesn't know how to connect to your router. The setup will allow you to plug in all the variables (including any security passwords). Once you set that up, you should be able to plug any device (that has an ethernet out) into it and it will use the bridge to gain access to your wireless router.

I just checked the instructions on hooking your model up as a wireless print server and that is how they recommend installing it (i.e. connecting to the computer first and running the setup CD).
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You tell me to hook the Netgear directly up to the Mac. By what Method>

I do have a USB cable I can run.
Use an ethernet cable from the Mac to the device. Once connected that way, the setup CD should recognize it.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Mark,

Will the Netgear be recognized if I hook it up via USB to the Mac?

Hooking it up directly to the Mac via ethernet doesn't sound correct.
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Ron, it won't see it via USB.

Yes, it does sound a bit odd to connect it via ethernet, but that's how most wireless devices are configured. I had to conenct all 4 of my devices up to my PC first to set them up.

I think what may be confusing you is that the device has a USB connection. Your bridge is meant for printers. That USB connection is to hook a USB printer up to. It's not meant for network connections.
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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Kevin and all, thanks for all your assistance.

It looks like I am SOL.

I tried bringing up 192.168.0.102 on my browser. No connection.

I then went into my Virtual PC and installed the Netgear setup client
on Windows XP. It could not detect the device.

Kevin, you suggested turning MAC filtering off. Which of the three
routers should I do this to? I take it that it's a simple thing to find?

I have not given up yet, but I am not optimistic that I am going to
get this set up anytime soon.

Thanks again for the help. Happy New Year!

Ron, sorry to hear your having so much trouble.. it appears that these things aren't as compatible with MAC's as one would like. When I talk about MAC filtering, in my Dlink Router it has a setting for Network filtering. Basically I'm telling my Router to only allow my notebook, PS3, Wii and Print server to be allowed to talk with the router. So I had to turn that feature of for a couple of minutes till I setup the Print server, then turned it back on.
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I have to go back to work tomorrow so the possibility of having
the time to further sit and troubleshoot this situation will be put
off till next week.

I received this response on one of the MAC forums. Not exactly
sure if this will work for certain but I thought I would run it by you
prior to trying it...

Quote:
Try it the simple way first -
Connect the AEBS WAN ethernet to your FIoS router. Use Airport Setup on a Mac to change the AEBS to NOT "Distribute IP addresses." The only other setting you may want to change is the AEBS transmit channel (since you have the FIoS right next to it) - start by changing it to 4. Restart any Mac(s) and find the new AEBS in the wireless connection menu.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

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Scott,

That's a new suggestion. Make sure my MAC is connected to the
NetGear print server?

You do realize by doing that I will have to disconnect it from the
Internet line temporarily.

Yes, Ron, I realize that your Mac will lose its Internet connection by doing this. However, your Mac does not need to connect to the Internet in order to configure the Netgear print server -- it only needs to connect directly with the device, via the setup software and an ethernet connection. Also, as Mark stated, the USB ports cannot be used for configuring the device. Those ports are for USB printers -- remember, this is a print server.

If you cannot run the setup software on your Mac's virtual PC, I'm afraid you will not be able configure the Netgear device. I cannot connect to the Netgear via a browser.
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If you cannot run the setup software on your Mac's virtual PC, I'm afraid you will not be able configure the Netgear device.
Yeah, Netgear definitely recommends using a PC, but if you are unable to connect from the virtual PC side then there may be some bug/issue in using virtual PC.

Ron, do you have access to an XP machine? I'm not sure about the response you quoted last, but it seems like connecting with a real PC is your best bet (or, at least, getting your virtual PC side to work).

Did you try using the ethernet cable and connecting to the device from your virtual PC? Like Scott said, you don't need an internet connection to connect to the device so don't worry about the temporary loss. If it's working properly, the PC will see the device over the ethernet cable. You should be able to type in 192.168.0.201 into a browser and the device will show up (it will probably ask you for a password).
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You should be able to type in 192.168.0.201 into a browser and the device will show up (it will probably ask you for a password).

This Netgear print server does not appear to respond to a request from a browser. I get a network timeout when attempting to browse to its address on my home network.
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

ronshit_netgear.jpg

Guys, we are almost there.

Hooked the Netgear directly up to the Mac desktop vie ethernet
and typed in the following...

http://192.168.0.102

The configuration page came right up.

All I did was go into WIRELESS SETTINGS, did a scan, selected my
network and put in the 10 digit WEP passcode (blocked from view).

Do I need to do anything else? The wireless light on the front of
the Netgear is flashing on and off. Not sure if that means it is
configured or not as nothing else is plugged into it as of yet.
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Congrats Ron! I'm not sure if you need to do anything else. It sounds like it should be ok. A good test would be to disconnect the device (i.e. unplug the ethernet cable), get your Mac back up on the network and type in the IP address again and see if it shows up. If so, it looks like you should be all set.

Oh, one other thing...if the device had a default password for gaining access to the configuration page, I'd recommend changing it. I know people who do scans to see if they can gain access to wireless devices (mainly routers) and since they all have a default password, it's easy to get in and screw with settings....I even know someone who changes passwords so that the user no longer can gain access to the device again (without resetting it).
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Re: Wi-Fi Antenna for BD Ethernet connections?

Mark,

How would you suggest I hook up the Netgear to test this?

I did hook it up to my Tivo unit across the house and Tivo
could not recognize the home network.
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Hmmm, is the Netgear device set up for DHCP or does it have a static IP? I set up my Wireless Bridge with a static IP and let my ReplayTV get access via DHCP. I think I had to setup the bridge with a static IP because the ReplayTV would have a hard time finding the bridge when it was DHCP'd.

I just looked at the Netgear manual for your device and it does mention that the device is DHCP'd for initial setup but will be changed to a static IP furing setup, so you should probably select a static IP.

Try changing the IP to a static IP (in the "IP Settings" area) with the proper subnet mask and gateway address. There should be a "Suggested Values" button which will pick out the best address to use for your network.

Then make sure your Tivo is setup for DHCP and see if it works that way.
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