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I was one of the skeptical ones.
I figured the movie would be good but I didn't think that Paramount would be able to get 'regular' people to see a Star Trek movie.
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I was one of the skeptical ones. It goes to show that if you make a blockbuster that is also a very good movie you not only get a big first weekend but great legs. If the Transformers 2 reviews are any indication, that film will open HUGE but not have the staying power of a Star Trek or Dark Knight.

I think you are right about this Brandon. Transformers 2 will have a huge opening and a decent few weeks when those who don't venture out to movies regularly or for opening weeks see it, but it isn't going to be as big as it could've been if all the reviews are correct. While I wasn't expecting anything great, I was hoping for a fun movie that was a little better than the first. That doesn't sound like it will be the case.
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its going to make you wish you were watching the first one.

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Way back on the first page of this thread, I was among those predicting doom for 'Star Trek.' And now, as Terry pointed out, it's about to break the franchise's ticket-sales record, while the other franchise films surrounding it underperformed. I gotta say I've never been happier to be proven wrong! I saw the film for a second time this past weekend, and it's really a joy...pure, upbeat, old-school fun. Glad to see people embrace it!

Amen.

A very pleasant surprise.

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The thing is, Transformers is almost guaranteed 300M (correct?) In one weekend, it may come close to equalling the current Box Office leader for the year (Up!, which just passed ST at around $227M). I believe "Up!" is a lock for $300M. So is Transformers2 pardoning any first weekend let down.. the next in line are HP6.. Avatar maybe(?)

I'm wondering what a dissappointing 5 day total for Transformers2 would be. Would anything under $160M for the 5 days be considered a disaster?
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hopefully cameron will be able to show how a real director works.
that he is still the master. mcg was easy to show that. however bay is a bit harder to show.
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The thing is, Transformers is almost guaranteed 300M (correct?) In one weekend, it may come close to equalling the current Box Office leader for the year (Up!, which just passed ST at around $227M). I believe "Up!" is a lock for $300M.

Star Trek is still on top with north of $240M.
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its going to make you wish you were watching the first one.
That's the impression I now get. I was kind of anticipating this film, but I saw an extended trailer in the theater tonight and the premise looks completely laughable, even for transforming robots. Not sure if I'll catch this in theaters now or wait for the Redbox rental.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Conway
I was one of the skeptical ones. It goes to show that if you make a blockbuster that is also a very good movie you not only get a big first weekend but great legs. If the Transformers 2 reviews are any indication, that film will open HUGE but not have the staying power of a Star Trek or Dark Knight.
I'll join the chorus on this sentiment. The original movie wasn't exactly a quality production, but it was fun and entertaining. The focus was still on the human characters, even if they were a step away from cardboard cutouts. If the sequel is merely a two-hour F/X show reel, the movie will open huge but fade fast.

EDITED TO ADD: From Roger Ebert:

If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.

Ouch!
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Star Trek is still on top with north of $240M.

You are correct. It's currently 240M vs. 230M. At current daily weekend rates, Up! will pass Trek Friday. So, good point.

at that point, both might get lapped by Transformers.

I finally talked to someone I know who got a chance to see it at a sneak.. and I had been debating seeing it, I think I will stay home. This wasn't must watch film for me, but the reviews are blisteringly bad. It's below 25% at Rotten Tomatoes.
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I'll join the chorus on this sentiment. The original movie wasn't exactly a quality production, but it was fun and entertaining. The focus was still on the human characters, even if they were a step away from cardboard cutouts. If the sequel is merely a two-hour F/X show reel, the movie will open huge but fade fast.

EDITED TO ADD: From Roger Ebert:

If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.

Ouch!

Even when I disagree with him, I love it when Ebert hates a movie. He can be quite creative and entertaining. From what I've seen the F/X look very good in this film, but that alone does not a good film make.

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That's the impression I now get. I was kind of anticipating this film, but I saw an extended trailer in the theater tonight and the premise looks completely laughable, even for transforming robots. Not sure if I'll catch this in theaters now or wait for the Redbox rental.

I'll probably still catch it in the theater. Giant robots really benefit from the scale of a big screen.
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I love the review snippets:

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Putrid, offensive and life-sucking. Early word is describing this woebegone fiasco as the next Batman and Robin. Having seen both, Joel Schumacher has every right to protest the comparison.

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Leave it to Michael Bay to take the fun out of explosions.

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After 149 minutes, I felt like I had been sitting in an aluminum garbage can while someone drummed on the outside with a wrench.

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movie and another hour thinking about what I saw and I have no earthly idea what Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is about.

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A great grinding garbage disposal of a movie, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen isn't so much a narrative film as a cacophonous series of explosions intermittently interrupted by needless dialogue.

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The first, comparatively lucid Transformers was a headache, but I sort of enjoyed it....Revenge of the Fallen is more like listening to rocks in a clothes dryer for 2½ hours.
(Michael Phillips)

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Jeez, Ebert even liked the first one!
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Why am I not surprised by the reviews for Transformers: RoTF. It's a Michael Bay movie. I don't think the guy has ever made a movie that actually has a good story. When a person goes to one of his films it is precisely for

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A great grinding garbage disposal of a movie, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen isn't so much a narrative film as a cacophonous series of explosions intermittently interrupted by needless dialogue.

When you have to shoot...shoot. Don't talk!

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Michael Bay has once again transformed garbage into something resembling a film, at least in the loosest sense: it can be run through a projector and used to sell millions of tickets.

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Could this be a Cloverfield experience?
Never understood the hate for Cloverfield, I thought it was a fantastic movie.
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I mean from a boxoffice standpoint.
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Despite its few faults, Transformers is this summer’s biggest ticket and ties with Star Trek for the best summer blockbuster of 2009.

...oh wait, that was a positive review.

I was one of the guys wary of the new Star Trek movie a while back. I'm glad it's doing so well. Looking forward to more adventures in Trek's alternate timeline.

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Believe it or not that was a positive Transformers review too. Looking forward to watching this "cacophonous series of explosions intermittently interrupted by needless dialogue" sometime next week.
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i cant' wait to see big robots transforming and fighting and more of peter cullen voice overs. I can't wait to see devastator form.
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Sounds like this decade's Batman & Robin, with a little bit of Jar Jar thrown in.

Even though I'm sure TF2 will open huge (though I'm starting to get dubious as to how it will hold in subsequent weeks), Megan Fox would be wise to take a pass on Transformers 3 IMO if she wants to have any chance of being taken half way seriously. Shia should get far, far, faaaar away from this franchise too. Bay clearly is not interested at all in telling any kind of story with this franchise and after this second film whatever benefit this franchise has had for their career's is probably spent.

I don't think Alicia Silverstone's or Chris O' Donnel's careers ever recovered from B&R even though it wasn't their fault.
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$16M for post-midnight showings alone for Transformers: ROTF

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...Megan Fox would be wise to take a pass on Transformers 3 IMO if she wants to have any chance of being taken half way seriously.
She could have Meryl Streep's talent and she'll never be taken seriously.
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She could have Meryl Streep's talent and she'll never be taken seriously.

Point taken, though you don't have to be "respectable" or really even all that talented to be a movie star(let).

I do think she does risk becoming a total joke if she continues with this franchise and I think she knows it too ... she's started making some snide, backhanded comments about the franchise already.

Then again she could always negotiate/hold out for a huge pay day for TF3, which I guess she might as well take because her future in the business could go bust very quickly too. Might as well cash in and be set for life. She'll never be Angelina Jolie, but I think she is hoping she can be more than a Jennifer Love Hewitt.
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"Quite an experience to live in fear isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave."

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It'll be interesting to see if word of mouth from the early screeners has any effect at all on the upcoming weekend grosses. I know from the trailer I saw in the theater on Tuesday and the early bad WOM and reviews, I've moved from "moderately interested" to "likely wait for the DVD."

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It'll be interesting to see if word of mouth from the early screeners has any effect at all on the upcoming weekend grosses. I know from the trailer I saw in the theater on Tuesday and the early bad WOM and reviews, I've moved from "moderately interested" to "likely wait for the DVD."

Me too. I'm not likely to see this one in theaters.
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Megan Fox has a message for all you whingers -

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"It's a blockbuster popcorn summer movie. It's fun. It's not meant to make you think. Turn your brain off and go watch the movie. Everybody just shut the fuck up and go have fun. It's not meant to change your life. If you don't want to go and see it, than don't fucking go. Stay home!"


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Not so thick after all eh?

$55m wednesday? Wow! Who said the box office was dying? Would it have been that successful if Megan wasn't in it? Who knows? [sniggers]
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Looks like TF2 pulled in nearly $61 million yesterday, counting the midnight screenings.

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That's amazing Terry, $60m a day, just amazing, why at this rate by sunday the cacophonous series of explosions would have grossed around $300m! If it had opened on friday it'll most likely have broken Dark Knights opening day record, of course it won't have DK's staying power but still.

Michael Bay must already be preparing another 150mins of needless dialogue punctuated by cacophonous explosions for 2011?
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I'll say it: I'm sick and tired of being told to "turn off my brain" to enjoy something. I can be wowed by spectacle and use my brain. Several films have engaged me in such a manner: The Dark Knight, Die Hard, Star Wars, the Jack Ryan films, etc. This idea that one can have pointless, plotless, brainless movies that 'xplode good and not expect anything else is an excuse for selling shit, and I'm not a consumer of shit, no matter how much certain factions of Hollywood want to shove it my face.
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