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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
The market has spoken, they want flat screens. That's all you need to take from it.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
There's nothing wrong with DLP. As Zack said, thin is in. But rear projection is still a great option if you want a large screen at a great price. And you have the room. 73 inches are going for well under $2000. While I think rptv's will disappear altogether in a year or two, DLP may still survive in front projectors. BTW, I own two DLP's. A 52" Mitsubishi and a 65" Toshiba.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
Ditto what everyone else said.
And I couldn't be happier with my Samsung DLP. Price to screen-size it could not be beat. It's 12 inches deeper than a "flat screen" so I have to put it on a table instead of hanging it on the wall. But, for me, that trade off was well worth the nearly 50% savings.
If they are not being made soon I should really stock up on bulbs... Though at the rate I watch about 2 bulbs should get me well over a decade of hi-def viewing.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
I hope to be getting a Samsung 61" - 72" LED DLP, after the first of the year. I want the bigger screen size. The LED means no bulbs to change and no color wheels to shatter, as some have done. Less energy consumption too.
I have no desire to hang a tv on the wall. Not the best place for them. Ideally, the center of the screen should be about eye level, while sitting down, except for front projectors.
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FYI, they do not make a 72-inch set -- only 61" and 67".
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Now, FYI.......
Amazon.com: Samsung HL72A650 72-Inch 1080p Slim DLP HDTV: Audio & Video
Enjoy!
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 Which is where a TV on the wall would be hung. What's the difference between wall and stand? |
Usually people hang them much higher, like above a fireplace........ If you're going to hang it the same height as the stand, why bother hanging it? Then you need the wall mount, and run wires through the wall to hide them. You'd still need a stand or rack for the A/V gear anyway. Hanging on a wall just doesn't make sense to me. But that's just me........
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Are these three DLP chip systems? Aren't you trading rainbows for alignment problems?
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Not sure. Gregg can probably answer that. But I prefer not having to change bulb. Don't want to chance a squeaky color wheel or other noise from a spinning wheel. And as I said before..........less power consumption with LED.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
It says on Samsung's site that it uses Cinema Smooth light engine, but can't find anywhere on the site that tells if that is LED bulb or traditional bulb. I'll take your word for it. You probably know more about these than I do.
Why doesn't someone tell Amazon their info is wrong.................?
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
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How does this eliminate rainbows? You've still got time-sequential coloring, which is the cause of rainbows; not the color disk per se. Is LED timing faster, as with the newer, faster color wheels?
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When it comes to something like this, it's always about humanly perceivable/appreciable thresholds, not about absolutes. Actually, that's far far more often the case than we tend to realize.
Anyway, if the LEDs fire at the equiv of a 15x color wheel, I guess that should be good enough -- or at least waaay better than typical color wheel implementations. Just don't try to use the TV for any serious scientific experiments (or whatever other unintended "fun projects"
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Ed,
If you read the first page of the 750 Series owners threads at AVS Forum, you will see specific mentioning of the 650 Series being a bulb DLP vs. LED DLP for the 750 Series.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
The popularity of the flatscreens over RP-based DLP/LCOS sets among retailers is mainly due to:
1. profit margin
2. less per-unit storage space needed for flatscreens vs. RP sets.
Sounds like a no-brainer if you're a retailer (online or b&m).
The job of marketing from the manufacturers is to make the consumer think that flatscreens are the way to go (if you want to hang one on the wall), or want better viewing angles (personally, I wanted better viewing angles over any of the RP-based models, so I went plasma 18 months ago).
The main initial purchasing decision advantage for RP-based set is mainly cost (larger surface area for dollar spent) over the flatscreens. (Another benefit is that replacing the bulbs when they go bad will prolong the cost of RP-based sets as well in terms of service, over having to buy a new set when the flatscreen set dies).
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
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(Another benefit is that replacing the bulbs when they go bad will prolong the cost of RP-based sets as well in terms of service, over having to buy a new set when the flatscreen set dies).
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The LED-based sets from Samsung (and probably also the new laser ones from Mits) no longer require regular bulb changes either -- though they do cost more (at about the cost of one bulb change or so in the case of Samsung's LED models). Still, the LED engines used right now are rated to last not quite as long as the current plasma tech though they should last plenty long enough for most people's usage, ie. should easily last 10 years (or much more) me thinks. I'd think other parts of these TVs might well malfunction or completely die by the time the LED engine (or the plasma phosphors or LCD backlight) wears out -- or you'd be more than ready to relegate the set to parttime/secondary duty in favor of something newer and (likely much) better by then.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
I'll echo some of the previous comments. I have a 2005 Samsung DLP RPTV and a 2007 Optoma DLP front projector. Both have performed 5x5. The Optoma needed a power supply replacement under warranty.
With regards the "rainbows". I can only see them if I personally move my head about while viewing.
I prefer the DLP since it gives better blacks and contrast, as well as clarity for rapidly moving objects on screen. As a previous CRT FP owner, I see all too well the shortcomings of the LCD sets.
Bulbs are expensive. If I had waited another couple of years I would have gone LED. But the cheapest sets you can own are the ones you already have.
Try Craigslist for a used Samsung DLP RPTV and budget $300 for a new bulb.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
RE: bulb costs, I would add though that Samsung bulbs seem to cost less over time for each model. They may start out at ~$300 or so, but they seem to end up costing more like ~$150 after a few years. Of course, there are no guarantees about bulb costs in the future (nor the reliability of the color wheel, which seems quite vulnerable to wear-and-tear), so LED is most likely the best way to go w/ current Samsung RPTVs (unless you manage to find some incredible deal on a bulb-based one).
And no, I would not recommend buying a used bulb-based DLP RPTV -- you should factor in the likelihood of the color wheel needing replacement, if you buy one.
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Re: Why is DLP so unpopular?
This is something I have been going over for a while. There are only a few things that I'm unsure about. The Samsung HL61A750 only have an aspect ratio of 10,000:1, while their LCD line starts at 30,000:1 and continues to increase, not to mention Plasmas are in the 1,000,000:1 range. What does this all mean, and how does it affect things? It is more or less this one question I have before I am SOLD on buying the 61" 750 DLP.
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...interesting. So what you would say is that I am still making the right move by purchasing a DLP instead of an LCD. I was originally thinking about a Samsung LN52A650, but now...i'm thinking more about purchasing a Samsung HL61A750. HUGE price difference if you consider the fact that I'm getting 61" instead of 52".
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