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HTF Attendees Report: Panasonic Hollywood Labs 10/24

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We would like to thank Susie and all the folks for inviting us out
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Friday was spent first at Panasonic Hollywood Labs and later at Warner Brothers.

The visit to Panasonic started with a discussion how they serve the needs the studios and up-n-coming media producers to master A/V content on DVDs and now Blu-ray disc titles. One of the neater presentations was the projection of original 4k source content along side with the 1080p AVC encoded Blu-ray video footage from The Fantastic Four and the Rise of the Silver Surfer. The projection was split diagonally, and it was virtually impossible to tell which was the 4k mastered content and which was the 1080p AVC encoded content on a relatively large screen (I estimate it being 22 feet wide by 12 feet tall). They even invited us to get next to screen for a better look, which still produced no certainty amongst our group members as to which side was the original 4k master, and which side was the 1080p AVC encoded video. It was a very impressive demonstration of their video encoding techniques.

To better understand Blu-ray profiles, they included a summary of the 3 main profiles for Blu-ray:

1.0 - Provides basic Blu-ray playback.
1.1 - Blu-ray playback with bonus view and p-in-p capability, plus 64kb persistent storage to view all possible static content on the Blu-ray disc.
2.0 - 1.1 profile with 1GB of persistent storage, and networking capabilities (players must say "BD-Live" to be BD-Live capable).

There is also an automotive BD profile: 3.0 - relevant to BD playback in automotive BD hardware, mainly on the audio side.

BD-Live requires a network connection, and providers of BD content are working to create online sites to provide ongoing features related to BD titles, so that the user experience is not static, but ever-changing to take advantage of seasonal and holiday opportunities to offer new content or online commerce, as well as games and promotional material that tie in with the BD title at hand.

Next up was a slide presentation and discussion on the merits of the newest Panasonic home theater LCD projector, the PT-AE3000. It is finally available in the US starting this month. It has some nice features over its predecessor, the PT-AE2000, such as:

Increase black level performance due to the addition of a pure contrast plate in the light path, and decreased light leakage.
60,000:1 contrast ratio
Optical zoom up to 2x.
Processing of these modes: 21x9, 16x9 and full HD mode.
Frame creation which makes for solid panning experience, and 120Hz or 100Hz framerate playback
Lens Memory settings of zoom/focus for different aspect ratios

The final demo was a 7.1 audio demo in conjunction with a Panasonic plasma set with Viera Cast that was internet-ready (just connect network cable to the set), though we mainly got side-tracked with the internet connectivity aspect of the demo that featured:

YouTube - went on a search for more cowbell videos
Picasa - for photos
Stock quotes - for extra anxiety levels
Weather
and other future knick-knacks to come.

Panasonic Hollywood Labs was kind enough to provide our large group with an outdoor catered lunch, and the meal was very good and tasty. We had our choice of ribs (truly delicious and so tender that it almost fell off the bone) and fried chicken, with sides of green beans, pork-n-beans, mashed potatoes and gravy. Dessert featured peach cobbler, pound cake, and truly rich gooey butter cake (I only finished half a slice due to its richness, and cursed my failure to finish the slice because it was really yummy).

Each participant was given a Panasonic promo bag filled with such items, like a coffee mug, pen, small hand-held fan, 1GB USB memory stick, and some literature on their latest Blu-ray player models (BD-35 and BD-55 with comparisons to older models), and their first HT system in a box that incorporates a Blu-ray player and wireless connectivity and 7.1 audio.

It is with great appreciation for Panasonic who hosted our group, and provide us with a nice balance of informative Blu-ray content and their latest home theater projector offering. Plus, lunch was a hit amongst our members. Thanks, Panasonic Hollywood Labs!

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I was very impressed with the hardware demos that Panasonic provided and I think there may be a BD-35 in my near future (my first Blu-ray player).

I also wanted to mention the name of the caterer of the fantastic lunch we were provided: Miss Peaches. The owner also has a restaurant by that name on Lankershim Blvd. in North Hollywood. It is highly recommended for anyone living in or visiting the area.

Rob

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
One of the neater presentations was the projection of original 4k source content along side with the 1080p AVC encoded Blu-ray video footage from The Fantastic Four and the Rise of the Silver Surfer. The projection was split diagonally, and it was virtually impossible to tell which was the 4k mastered content and which was the 1080p AVC encoded content on a relatively large screen (I estimate it being 22 feet wide by 12 feet tall). They even invited us to get next to screen for a better look, which still produced no certainty amongst our group members as to which side was the original 4k master, and which side was the 1080p AVC encoded video. It was a very impressive demonstration of their video encoding techniques.
Just to add to Patrick's excellent summary: I never realized just how good the AVC codec is until I saw this demonstration. I was one of the people who went right up next to the screen. Then I tried stepping back a few feet. And event though I thought I could see some tiny differences between the two areas, I finally gave up trying to determine which was the compressed version and which was the uncompressed. It's that good.
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I never realized just how good the AVC codec is until I saw this demonstration.

I think what people often don't realize, however, is that the codec is only as good as the compressionist who uses it. Compression is a craft and requires creativity and insight on the part of the person configuring and tuning the codec's operation. It's FAR from a plug 'n' play solution and the skill of the compressionist is MUCH more important than the available bandwidth etc (that is, the issues that were so highlighted during the HD DVD/BR format war. And, FWIW, I've edited two books on video compression.)

The folks at Panny have been doing AVC compression longer than almost anyone and have superb artisans on their staff.
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Bob is right, of course. I should have said: "I never realized how good the AVC codec can be until I saw this demonstration."
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Personally this was my favorite non-studio visit because I am a big fan of Panasonic products. After seeing the AE3000 demo, I have one on pre-order. I was blown away.
A BD35 is also in my future.
Thank you so much for inviting us and for that remarkable demo
Lunch was great too!
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Just a reminder, Panasonic has once again changed the landscape of the industry as the AE-3000 is now MAP at $2500 and not the $3500 it was rumored to be and which many people were already clamboring to pay! They are gonna sell a bajillion of these, it looks to live up to its specs in every way and then some! Although this trip destroyed any savings I had, this is without a doubt the next piece of gear I am getting, one way or the other! I know Adam is hoping to line up a review unit for one of our hardware guys and I fully expect that to back up everything I have read on AVS and those other forums that are dedicated to projector reviews.

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Re: HTF Attendees Report: Panasonic Hollywood Labs 10/24

This was a fun and really interesting visit.
Panasonic really wowed with their technology.
I think a BD35 may be in my future too.
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I was very impressed with the hardware demos that Panasonic provided and I think there may be a BD-35 in my near future (my first Blu-ray player).

Make that my present (and future). Picked it up at Circuit City Monday.

Rob

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Bad news for the bank account, Sam. A friend has pre-ordered one of the Panny AE-3000 projectors and should be receiving it in a few days. I'll probably be posting enthusiastic comments on it after I install the unit for him. It's gonna cost you (or, gulp, us).
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The good news is I can't technically afford it, so unless I start selling plasma I'm going to be able to resist the temptation easily. Assuming the economy doesnt go from downturn to freefall I should be able to come up with the dough in a few months, plenty of time for the early rush to wear off and the early adopters to kick the tires well enough... Good luck to your friend with his new unit, I'm VERY jealous!

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Just got word my new AE3000 is being delivered on Friday. I should be able to put it through some paces this weekend.
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Not much more I can add other than my thanks for the generous hospitality and the help with identifying my next upgrade (BD-35). Which I just picked up last night.

More cowbell!

Steve L.

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AWESOME Jason, WE DEMAND PICTURES!!!!

Congrats to you too Steve =)

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Look familiar?
Panasonic puts forth proposal for 3D standard on Blu-ray Disc - Engadget

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