Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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Originally Posted by MielR
So, the ending was shot after the the cancellation was known about?
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4/2/09 at 6:00pm
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Life on Mars (US) season 1
4/2/09 at 6:23pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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| I'll definitely be getting the original BBC version when released on DVD later this year in any event |
Hell, no wonder I couldn't find it at Netflix or Amazon when I looked several months ago. Looks like July 28th now.
4/2/09 at 7:48pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
I can't find the exact story on tvguide.com, but I found this on Variety's website regarding the ending. The TV Guide article I read basically says the same thing as below, that the explanation was planned on a long time ago and the ending was no different had the series gone on longer:Quote:
| But the news was not all bad. In a sign of ABC's affection for the show, "Mars" was not yanked immediately. The show has been allowed to finish Tyler's journey through deep-seated emotional traumas that scarred 4-year-old Sam in '73 in ways that grown-up Sam has largely blotted out. "It was a gift that Steve gave us, creatively to finish out the show and to have that closure for the audience," says Nemec. It wasn't that hard to turn the script for the season finale to the series finale, set to air April 1. Because they were already building to a big revelation, they wound up rewriting the second half of the script to fully explain the "Mars" mythos and enlighten the loyalists on what's been going on and what becomes of Sam. Cracking the ending and the what-it-all-means factor was the biggest challenge the three showrunners faced in taking over the show last year from David E. Kelley, who was the first to acquire U.S. rights to the BBC hit and develop it for ABC. Although it was a remake, Appelbaum, Nemec and Rosenberg felt strongly that they couldn't stick to the Brit ending -- Warning Spoiler! Click to show which revealed it to be Sam's comatose dream, with a final fan-pleasing twist
-- because it wouldn't hold much suspense for viewers familiar with the much-lauded original series (it's aired on BBC America and has been available Stateside on DVD).ABC gave "Mars" a series order last May but recruited Appelbaum (pictured left), Nemec (pictured right) and Rosenberg (pictured below left), who at the time were coming off another ABC drama, "October Road," to retool the show considerably. While they were reshooting the first seg, the trio hunkered down with their staff writers to work out the central Sam mystery, so they'd know what crumbs and clues to scatter along the way. "I didn't want to be at a sci-fi convention five years from now and have someone ask 'Why didn't you ever explain that thing that happened in season two,'" Rosenberg says. "We needed to know our end point early on so we could drop hints along the way and never veer outside anything that couldn't be explained." |
Here's the story: http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_ai...own-terms.html
4/2/09 at 10:55pm
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I'm still not sure what to make of the ending of this series. Since I had already seen the conclusion of the BBC version of Life On Mars, this ending was, to say the least, very unexpected.Lawn Ranger Motto: You're only young once, but you can be always be immature.
4/3/09 at 3:09am
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I was a bit surprised to learn that the original British series - which lasted for 2 seasons - actually was only comprised of 16 episodes in all. So the U.S. "re-make" actually was longer by one episode with a 17 chapter season. (In retrospect I should have realized that British TV "seasons" tend to be much shorter. The late, great Fawlty Towers had two 6 episode seasons that were spaced apart by several years. The tremendously memorable stories and the hiatus give a feeling that there were so many more episodes in my opinion.)The Variety article cited above seems to indicate that the finale that we saw in the U.S. version of Life on Mars was planned from the outset and not just slapped together at the last moment. Given the flighty (to be kind!) nature of network TV executive programming decisions this is the type of thing that series producers should have in place whenever starting a new episodic series. J.J. Abrams indicated just such a plan when asked about the story arc for his interesting show, Fringe. To paraphrase, he indicated that there was a solid beginning, middle and ending in place and that the only variable was whether the show would last for 13 episodes or 13 seasons. He was good to go in either eventuality. A wise plan of action in the uncertain waters of network television.
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4/3/09 at 8:44am
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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Originally Posted by RAF
The Variety article cited above seems to indicate that the finale that we saw in the U.S. version of Life on Mars was planned from the outset and not just slapped together at the last moment.
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It would have been nice to have more seasons in 1973, but I'm glad we got what we did. We have 16 episodes of the BBC version, 17 of the US version and we also have Ashes to Ashes currently airing on BBC America with a second season to follow later this year.
4/4/09 at 5:33am
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By the way you can find the Life on Mars podcasts at http://a.abc.com/abc/xml/podcastRSS?...lishKey=138015There is a new one discussing the series finale.
4/13/09 at 2:58pm
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Just watched the last two episodes yesterday. Loved it! And was so happy we got a real ending to the story. One that I never would have predicted. One thing though... I swear I saw Lisa Bonet's name in the opening credits, but don't remember seeing her in the episode. I'm wondering if she was cut at the last minute to give us our conclusion to the series.I really was surprised that they were able to end the series properly, as I was afraid that they might have not been given enough lead time. Still, I imagine there was some pretty hasty re-writes! I mean, I had heard that things would "be explained"... but was scared that it would just be a set-up to the next season (which we weren't goin' to get). Glad it all worked out.
Anyway, I know I'm late to this party, just wanted to give my thumbs up. Actually, I think this show was perfect as a one season wonder and didn't overstay its welcome (Prison Break, anyone?).
Loved the show. Glad it got its ending!
4/13/09 at 3:20pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
No one has ever discussed how the end of the series fits in with the beginning of the series. So based on the start and end shows, he is actually an astronaut dreaming he is a cop in the present time who gets into hit by a car and dreams within the dream that he is now a cop in the 70s. Just wanted to get that straight. Doesn't come out of the 70s dream into the present day dream, but wakes up right into reality.
4/13/09 at 3:43pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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No one has ever discussed how the end of the series fits in with the beginning of the series. So based on the start and end shows, he is actually an astronaut dreaming he is a cop in the present time who gets into hit by a car and dreams within the dream that he is now a cop in the 70s. Just wanted to get that straight. Doesn't come out of the 70s dream into the present day dream, but wakes up right into reality.
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Correct. The series began with him in the midst of his full-on "2008 Cop" dream, though it was less a dream than "artificially induced state within suspended animation". In this state he had love, colleagues, crimes to solve, etc. (even a whole life history, parents, childhood, etc.) But there was a glitch, and it took the form of a speeding car, and the computer zapped him into its version of the 70s, and his real persona and dream persona began to merge.
Kinda convoluted, but it makes sense to me, because (and this, oddly enough, was one of my early complaints about the show) it didn't really feel like the actual 70s, but some film version of the 70s. Considering it was a simulation, this now makes... "sense".
4/13/09 at 4:19pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
Also the fact that Angie Dickenson's "Police Woman" reference was off by a year, doesn't matter! Just another glitch!
4/13/09 at 5:05pm
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Wasn't there also some kind of "Dream Police" reference in one of the last episodes? Off by 6 years.
4/13/09 at 6:49pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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Originally Posted by Ric Easton
One thing though... I swear I saw Lisa Bonet's name in the opening credits, but don't remember seeing her in the episode. I'm wondering if she was cut at the last minute to give us our conclusion to the series.
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You apparently missed her in the 4 other episodes she was also in.
4/14/09 at 5:55am
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood
You apparently missed her in the 4 other episodes she was also in.
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Sorry, is this a joke? Or was she actually listed in 4 other episodes and didn't appear? What's up with that? I thought I remembered seeing her (in flashback) or at least hearing her voice in several other episodes.
4/14/09 at 9:15am
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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Originally Posted by Ric Easton
Sorry, is this a joke? Or was she actually listed in 4 other episodes and didn't appear? What's up with that? I thought I remembered seeing her (in flashback) or at least hearing her voice in several other episodes.
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I think she played his girlfriend in 2008, so she wasn't present much, but I believe he was serious saying she was in 4 episodes.
4/14/09 at 9:54am
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Could it be that Lisa Bonet had a scene in the finale and it was cut for time?A bunch of the episodes followed the extended Lost episodes. I wonder if some of the episodes were cut when they were shown on ABC.
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4/14/09 at 10:02am
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I don't remember seeing her either in the finale or in other episodes other the the pilot.I do have a a vague memory that I might have seen her on one instance, mid season when Sam was looking into the TV and seeing images from 2008.
4/14/09 at 5:08pm
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Wasn't there a 'flashback' scene in the last episode? I think Bonet's face was among the images, in which case, they'd have to give her credit I guess.
4/14/09 at 5:14pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
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| I don't remember seeing her either in the finale or in other episodes other the the pilot. |
Wasn't she a nurse in a soap opera that Sam was watching on TV where she basically said she had to move on with her life?
4/14/09 at 10:16pm
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Re: Life on Mars (US) season 1
Bonet played Detective Maya Daniels, girlfriend of Sam, and not all her appearances were in later episodes. One was in the first episode.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KP8TP0EB68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4kBIl_CYU
http://www.astrodispatch.com/2009/03...gets-canceled/
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4/15/09 at 6:39am
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Much of Lisa Bonet's "appearances" consisted of being one of the voices in the background when Sam was thinking he might be in a coma and he thought he heard the people around him in the ICU, urging him to come back.Always Tim's (and Dennis's, Hannah's, and Oksana's) loving dad
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5/17/09 at 3:20pm
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So I've gotten my hands on the British DVD and I can definitely see why those of you who saw that first were saying it's practically identical.... Even the actors look similar, especially Chris in both versions. I just finished the 'football' episode, and I'm hoping they start to diverge pretty soon. Either way, they're both very good, as far as I'm concerned.
