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10/01/08: LA FOLIE DU DOCTEUR TUBE (Abel Gance, 1915)

It’s ironic that, of Gance’s more celebrated Silent work, this should be the one I watch first: it’s a one-reel short about a mad scientist – hence its inclusion in the “Horror Challenge”, though the tone throughout is distinctly comical! The titular figure is played by Albert Dieudonne – later the incarnation of Napoleon in the director’s eponymous epic of 1927 – and who’s fitted here with an exaggerated domed head, which he finally shelters inside a cage!

Even so, its raison d’etre is Gance’s use of the wide-angle lens in depicting the disorientating effect on people when subjected to a drug (in the form of dust particles) concocted by the protagonist. However, this gimmick – which actually prevents one from following what’s going on! – is kept up for an inordinate length of time: consequently, even at a mere 10 minutes, the gimmick outstays its welcome…


10/01/08: AMONG THE LIVING (Stuart Heisler, 1941)

I’d always been interested in this one – not least because it involves twinsJ (and, thus, reminiscent of the Boris Karloff vehicle THE BLACK ROOM [1935]) – so that when I came across the film, even if I knew that the quality would be far from optimal, I leapt at the chance to acquire it. While not strictly horror, it involves several elements that are part and parcel of the genre – old dark house, family secret, madness, murder, mob fury, etc.

Despite, as I said, the fact that the video was rather fuzzy – so that the images generally lacked detail – I was nonetheless struck by the film’s cinematography and editing: these were particularly effective during a scene at a bar, where the mad brother (who had been secluded all his life but has now broken loose) is ridiculed by the customers, and the one following it where he chases a girl into an alley and kills her. The two central roles are played by Albert Dekker and he does very well by both, though the mad brother is obviously the showier character – which he invests with a remarkable vulnerability (when seeing the locals indulging in a particularly animated jitterbug routine, he naively asks his future victim who’s accompanying him at the time “What are they doing?”); incidentally, despite the narrative’s Gothic – or, more precisely, Southern – trappings, the setting is a contemporary one.

The supporting cast is a good one and includes: a young Susan Hayward (that is, before she became, the First Lady of Screen Melodrama) as the perky small-town girl who entrances the crazy Dekker – which she’s all-too-willing to play up to, but who promptly and fiercely turns against him when he’s eventually revealed to be the cause of the terror which has gripped the community!; Harry Carey in the ambivalent role of the town doctor who, having been complicit in the cover-up of the mad brother’s existence, fears the repercussions of this act if he were to intervene when – at the satisfactorily frenzied climax – the good Dekker is accused of his brother’s crimes!; and the troubled Frances Farmer who, however, is wasted in the colorless role of the innocent sibling’s wife (in a virtual prerequisite of genre heroines, the actress is also asked to scream – which she does unconvincingly! – in her one scene with the mad Dekker).

The film is a Paramount production and, therefore, currently owned by Universal; while the latter have served their horror back-catalogue reasonably well on DVD, the equivalent stuff from that other studio has been consistently (and bafflingly) neglected over the years – especially since this includes such highly-desirable titles as ISLAND OF LOST SOULS (1932), MURDERS IN THE ZOO (1933) and, now, AMONG THE LIVING itself...


10/01/08: AU SECOURS! (Abel Gance, 1924)

Typical haunted house comedy with neglected French comic Max Linder (who recalls both Terry-Thomas and Raul Julia!), in which the hero – a dapper member of a social club – is dared to spend an hour in such a place by its current owner. Incidentally, the film itself seems to have been made as a bet between Gance and Linder (of whose films this is my first sample); given its inclusion in the Scary Movie Challenge, it’s ironic that Linder and his wife committed ritual suicide on Halloween Day, 1925!

Anyhow, the ghouls that terrify the hero aren’t just the usual gimmicks such as skeletons or headless/monstrous figures – but also an assortment of reptiles (snakes, crocodiles) and wild animals (tigers, lions)! Despite the obvious danger to his life, Max holds firm...but is finally deterred from keeping up the bet to the very last when his wife calls at the house and tells him she’s being menaced (which is, of course, a nasty trick pulled by the owner to ensure his triumph in the matter!).

While it’s not exactly remarkable in the horror/comedy stakes – and repetitive to boot, not least because it has Max mostly stuck in one room (incidentally, I watched the 23-minute version and not the reportedly longer ‘restored’ one at 40)! – Gance once again lays on the technique (though the image unfortunately suffered from distracting jitters all the way through): especially creative is the scene in which Max is hanging on to a chandelier which, declining under his weight, literally pulls the picture down with it!


10/01/08: SWEENEY TODD, THE DEMON BARBER OF FLEET STREET (George King, 1936)

This is only the second Tod Slaughter vehicle I watched after the superior THE FACE AT THE WINDOW (1939), which I had come across during my tenure in Hollywood; I became even more interested in acquiring it after checking out Tim Burton’s excellent 2007 filmization of the Stephen Sondheim musical rendition of the popular “barnstormer”.

While the plot (which, for what it’s worth, is given a contemporary framework in this case) is obviously similar, here, the titular figure is unsurprisingly depicted as an out-and-out villain – which the star (Britain’s answer to Bela Lugosi rather than Slaughter’s own more versatile countryman Boris Karloff) approaches with trademark hamminess, rubbing his hands together and laughing maniacally when about to indulge in his nefarious deeds. Typically, too, he covets a young girl (daughter of a merchant) in love with a poor boy (a sailor on one of his ships) and isn’t above blackmailing her father in order to guarantee the mismatched union!

Incidentally, when the film opens, barber Todd (and the female owner of a neighboring pie-shop) is already well into the habit of disposing of his customers – his motive being simply greed rather than revenge as in the later film version. By the way, the fact that the victims end up as ingredients in the woman’s ‘recipe’ (via a rotating chair in his shop which sends them tumbling down her cellar!) is merely intimated here – but it’s perfectly understandable for a product from 1936. The climax, then, is a bit contrived as both hero and heroine don disguises in order to expose Todd – however, it all leads to a nicely ironic twist when, amidst the flames which have engulfed his establishment, the demon barber gets to make use himself of the very contraption he had devised!

In the end, this is watchable – if essentially crude and stodgy – fare which, however, isn’t helped by the annoying practice of excessively cleaning up the soundtrack i.e. virtually all noise apart from the dialogue is bafflingly eliminated…except that the former, undercut as it is by relentless hiss and crackle, comes across as muffled most of the time and, thus, rendering the ensuing digital manipulation all the more blatant!


10/02/08: THE BESPOKE OVERCOAT (Jack Clayton, 1956)

Celebrated British fantasy short from an equally famous source, a story by the great Russian novelist Nikolai Gogol which has been filmed several times (I own two other adaptations myself: the 1952 Italian version and a 1954 TV program also made in Britain: interestingly, both of these had served as dramatic showcases for comic stars i.e. Renato Rascel and Buster Keaton[!] respectively). For the record, yet another acclaimed cinematic rendition of the tale is the Russian one from 1959.

In the case of the film under review, however, the essentially low-key handling benefits tremendously from the presence of character actors in the central roles (and also by emphasizing their Jewishness): Alfie Bass – some of his mannerisms here would be reprised in Roman Polanski’s horror spoof THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS (1967)! – is the poor and meek clerk, who wishes to own an overcoat that would shield him from the cold environment at his workplace (ironically, a textile business), and David Kossoff the modest but “Number One” tailor he entrusts with the task.

Actually, the film begins with Bass’ funeral – and Kossoff buries the coat with him, the former having died (of a broken heart from being sacked) before it was completed. Subsequently, the tailor is visited by the ghost of the clerk – recounting the animosity with his employer, how the ownership of the overcoat became a question of dignity and pride, how he lost his job and ensuing lonesome death. Bass, however – who feels spited, having been shown no gratitude for the service he diligently rendered for so long – asks Kossoff to accompany him to the shop intending to ‘abscond’ with a piece of expensive fabric (finally settling on a sheepskin coat).

Director Clayton boldly chose to treat ghost stories with the same level of realism accorded to a gritty drama (see also THE INNOCENTS [1961], on whose R2 SE DVD this short was thankfully made available) and for which he employed cinematographer Wolfgang Suschitsky (especially effective are the transitions from the present to Bass’ recollections and back again) and composer Georges Auric (who supplies a lovely score). The end result – which emerged both an Oscar and Venice Film Festival winner – is fascinating and virtually flawless, ensuring its solid reputation (for a short subject) among cineastes.


10/02/08: GENUINE – THE TALE OF A VAMPIRE [Condensed Version] (Robert Wiene, 1920)

I’ve been wanting to give this a whirl ever since acquiring it six years ago – as part of the Kino edition of the same director’s THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI (1920). However, the result (without taking into account its obvious narrative gaps, being incomplete in this version) is nowhere near as groundbreaking or even compelling as that earlier classic – despite the comparable Expressionist look (including a clock standing in for the face of a skeleton[!] and which is still its best quality).

The plot revolves around a femme fatale called Genuine – hence, the vampire of the title is not of the blood-sucking variety – who had actually been the high priestess of some cult. Due to a clash between factions, she ends up in a slave market (featuring surprising but discreet nudity) and is eventually bought by an eccentric old man (among other things, he likes to doze off while being shaved daily!), who keeps the girl in the cellar of his ‘notorious’ mansion so as to shelter her from the vices of modern life; incidentally, one is never quite sure in which era this is all supposed to be taking place – since the dapper but doddering old man has an Arab, with painted bare chest, for a servant! The irony, then, is that the girl’s own nature – she has a feral countenance and wears a skimpy striped outfit! – is infinitely more dangerous to the young men she enslaves (one of whom sports a highly anachronistic Duran Duran hairdo!). These, in fact, are somehow driven mad (as it stands, the details aren’t very clear – particularly with respect to the old man’s nephew); when the son of his exclusive barber is similarly afflicted, the latter rouses the populace against her and – in a scene which basically replicates Cesare the somnabulist’s fate from the aforementioned THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI – she dies in the ensuing pursuit.

In conclusion, the treatment afforded the film isn’t sufficiently gripping to rate it higher than a mere curio at this juncture; besides, it’s all the more disappointing coming from Wiene (who, besides CALIGARI also made the equally influential THE HANDS OF ORLAC [1924]). By the way, another interesting effort of his – the Dostoyevsky adaptation RASKOLNIKOV (1923) – will soon be released on DVD by the budget label Alpha (under the alternate title of CRIME AND PUNISHMENT)…
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10/3 05 Phantom from 10,000 Leagues (1955)

I borrowed the 50 movie horror classics from my son for the purpose of this challenge. I've seen a few of these movies but most I haven't. I'm hoping to find a few gems among the crap but this isn't one of them.
What little plot there is seems interesting enough but practically an hour goes by before anything really happens. The acting is pathetic and the less said about the creature the better. But despite that, I had fun watching this cheesy movie.


10/3 06 Sometimes They Come Back (1991)

Effectively creepy movie based on a short story by Stephen King. Three punks terrorize and stab to death the elder of two brothers. Twenty-seven years later they come back to finish the job.
This is one of the better King adaptations with a good plot and fair acting and enough chills to cool you down at night.
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1. *** Disturbia (2007). Second time I have seen this film and while not REALLY scary to me, it creeps me out. David Morse is a great actor who
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can definitely play the creepy killer well
. The end where Shia's character is in his neighbors house searching for his mother in the hidden rooms builds much tension and makes my skin crawl.
Can we use spoiler tags on spoiler info please? We haven't all seen all the films discussed in this thread and it should be possible to post review comments without giving away all the plot twists (using spoiler tags, if you feel it is necessary).

Many thanks.

Uncle Joe: I'll never marry you, Selma Plout!  You may as well take off that wedding dress and put it back in your Hopeless Chest!

--Petticoat Junction--

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Got in two more today.

4. The Leopard Man

I'm still on a Val Lewton kick so I watched another couple of them. Just for an incredibly suspenseful scene in the first 15 or so minutes, The Leopard Man is one of my favorite Lewton productions.

5. I Walked With A Zombie

Not Lewton's best but still an interesting movie. Watching it, I was reminded of the zombie 'debate' earlier in the thread.

I've watched 5 movies in 3 days and I'm still slacking compared to some of you guys.
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Updated List...
NOTE: Titles in BOLD are ones I viewed for the very first time.

Movies:

Oct. 1st:
1. Shadow Zone: The Undead Express
2. Embrace of the Vampire
3. Fright Night
4. The Breed
5. Crazy Eights
6. The Invasion

Oct. 2nd:
7. The Others
8. Lake Dead
9. The Willies
10. Silver Bullet

Oct. 3rd:
11. Psycho
12. The Tingler
13. Psycho II

TV Episodes:

Oct. 1st:
1. Masters of Horror: The V Word
2. Tales from the Crypt: The Reluctant Vampire
3. Friday the 13th: The Series: Season 1: The Inheritance
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Hey All! I too am amazed at how many... wait a sec! I've been devouring them too. Actually - I too need to get a workout in as well. But what I do is go on the elliptical or the bike with my iPhone and watch a flick while I work out. That way my ass doesn't get too large during the month of October!

During today's workout I watched:

9. Young Frankenstein: Along with Ghostbusters, I can't think of a better, funnier, or more quotable pair of flicks. Mel Brooks at his insane best. There are so many classic moments in this film, that continue to work after so many viewings, that I feel sometimes like Brooks was making the film for my particular funny bone. And what great atmosphere! He captured the feel of the Universal monster movies so well. Gorgeous cinematography.

After my workout, I began the Killer Creature Double Feature night at the Roer Household (or is it Roser? Hey Karlosi, how should I spell my name?) all curtesy of Roger Corman.

10. The Wasp Women: Cheesy special effects don't dampen the fun to be had with the Wasp Women! A scientist develops an age reversing serum from wasps and begins working at a cosmetic company. When the head of the company takes the serum and has spectacular results - she looks 23 again - she overdoses and the monster mayhem ensues! As with all Corman pictures, look for great camera movement and an ensemble of fun characters. What can I say? I just love the guy and most of his work.

After the little one goes to sleep, I'm going to finish my double feature with Attack of the Giant Leeches! A party tomorrow night ensures only time for one picture, so I'm duking it out between Dr. Phibes and The Blob! Leaning toward the good old doctor as of now.

Cheers,

Jason
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Can we use spoiler tags on spoiler info please? We haven't all seen all the films discussed in this thread and it should be possible to post review comments without giving away all the plot twists (using spoiler tags, if you feel it is necessary).

Many thanks.


My apologies. I will remember that when I post more to my list.

NO SHIRT

NO SHOES

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Of course I am. Now I guess this is probably one of those key moments in film discussion where it's your turn to say: "But you're expecting the movie to be something else other than what the director wanted it to be!", but I think it's perfectly okay for a viewer to do precisely that. We don't have to buy any bag of goods the filmmaker tries to sell us. We've been over this many times before and it never gets anywhere because you just can't accept that I don't like the movie and that I don't care to see it again after two viewings. I tried it twice, and I'm finished and can easily live happily ever after that way.


Oh, it's okay. I watched BAMBI earlier today and was disappointed that there wasn't any hardcore sex in it. Horrible horrible movie because of that. What the hell was Disney thinking? We all know sex and violence sales and Disney thought they could make a movie without it? Dummies.
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Oh snap!

TravisR, I know what you mean! Tomorrow (SATURDAY) is going to be a wash for me, I'm out all day and mostly the night. I'm going to be lucky to watch 3 a day this year. I'm not so concerned about the "winning", I just have a ton of movies I've been waiting for the challenge to watch.
Who knew a credit card could scream?

What I'm listening to right now!

This post is invisible! It also has the power to kill threads!
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I'm going to be lucky to watch 3 a day this year.
I'd say that sounds odd but when you consider that we were both watching about 4 a day last year...

I get the feeling that there will be a few days where I go nuts and knock out all the Friday The 13th movies in a day or two so I'm not out yet.
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Oh hell, i better get after it. I have not watched a thing all day!
Might spin up the Blu-ray of Beetlejuice.
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Updated list:

10/01 (1) Deranged
10/02 (2) Pet Sematary
10/03 (3) Empire of the Ants
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10. The Wasp Women: Cheesy special effects don't dampen the fun to be had with the Wasp Women! A scientist develops an age reversing serum from wasps and begins working at a cosmetic company. When the head of the company takes the serum and has spectacular results - she looks 23 again - she overdoses and the monster mayhem ensues! As with all Corman pictures, look for great camera movement and an ensemble of fun characters. What can I say? I just love the guy and most of his work.
Jason,

It's interesting how close we came to watching The Wasp Woman instead of The Giant Gila Monster. Both are part of our Drive-In Classics DVD collection. I'm fairly certain we'll get around to The Wasp Woman during this month.

BTW, The Blob (original version) is on our list as well.

Oct. 3:

Tonight, we watched The Giant Gila Monster and Halloweentown.

The Giant Gila Monster is a wonderful B-flick, and it's one of my favorites in this genre. The music that signals our hungry friend's appearance is quite recognizable each time it arrives on the scene. Our children began to recognize this theme whenever it was heard. They also enjoyed how the monster appeared to get bigger throughout the film. The acting was fun to watch at times; I particularly liked Chase in this one--his 'even keel' approach to most things, his love of cars, and of course, his hidden talent for singing, were all appreciated by this viewer for what they were.

Halloweentown is a fun film for the family to watch every year. I'm certain we'll be watching all four films this month. In this one, Kalabar isn't as nasty as in the second film; still, the makeup used for his transformation scared a couple of our younger ones a little bit. I liked Debbie Reynolds in her role as the grandmother, and Joey Zimmerman ("Ulysses Adair" of Earth 2 fame) as Dylan was a good match. I prefer Kimberly Brown in the role of Marnie (1-3) rather than Sara Paxton (4); I hope if and when a fifth film is made, that she (Brown) will reprise the role she had for the first three films in the series.

Updated list:

Films:

1. House On Haunted Hill (1959)
2. The Fly (1958)
3. The Giant Gila Monster (1959)
4. Halloweentown (1998)

Television episodes:

1. Dark Shadows (Original series) (episodes nos. 19 and 20) (1966)
2. One Step Beyond ("The Dead Part Of the House") (1959)
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Wrestlemaniac (2006)
Jesse Baget

This is the reason why I sit through so many cruddy B movies. Every so often you find a fun one.

A group of youngsters decide to head down to Mexico to film a porno. When they learn they're near La Sangre de Dios, a Mexican Ghost town, they naturally have to go. What sells better than Ghost town porn? Unfortunately, La Sangre de Dios is home to El Mascarado. Legend has it, Mexico was tired of getting its butt kicked by the Russians in Olympic Wrestling, and decided to take Mexico's top wrestlers and "create" a wrestling God. But as these things go, poor El Mascarado went insane and started killing all his opponents. So they sent him to La Sangre de Dios (after fifty lobotomies).

Apparently, El Mascarado is no fan of porn, and face-tearing-off mayhem ensues. El Mascarado is old-school, so he has to remove his foes "masks" after defeating them. Luckily, our heroes include Steve, a Mexican/American (inside joke here makes me laugh so hard it hurts) wrestling fan who figures out the only way El Mascarado can be defeated:
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Take off his mask
....yep it's gold....GOLD, I tell ya.

Perhaps not exactly PC, and more than a little exploitational (countless tracking shots of female posteriors, boobage, and one laugh-out-loud scene where a girl gets her shorts caught for no other reason than her to run around in her underpants the rest of the film) make this a BK approved, super-fun-time.

Spatterific


Bikini Bloodbath (2006)
Jonathan Gorman and Thomas Edward Seymour

A group of bikini-clad graduates have a slumber party. Football players have a slumber party. A psycho chef is on the prowl. This one was actually funny for about ten minutes, but too much filler, and repetition kill it pretty quickly. But, I have to admit the little picture of Hitler victoriously holding up a taco at the local, Dos Taco made me laugh so hard all is forgiven.

At least I saw boobs


1.Lost Boys:The Tribe At least I saw boobs
2. Captivity There's 2 hours I'll never get back
3. Undead or Alive Crap on a stick
4. Wrestlemaniac Spatterific
5. Bikini Bloodbath At least I saw boobs
"DO NOT float above me while I'm dying in the abyss!"
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Oh, it's okay. I watched BAMBI earlier today and was disappointed that there wasn't any hardcore sex in it. Horrible horrible movie because of that. What the hell was Disney thinking? We all know sex and violence sales and Disney thought they could make a movie without it? Dummies.

You're going waaayyyy off the deep end here just because I personally felt that AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON had too much silliness and comedy that took away from the horror of it. But just for the record, I've seen you in the past not liking a certain film "because it was like this" or "wasn't like that". This is all just part of our own personal aesthetic views when we watch movies! None of us are required to accept or enjoy all aspects that any director brings to any movie. Not everything works for each viewer, and that should be a basic realization for any film fan.

Why don't you just let it go and allow me my own opinion? I think AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON is too stupid for its own good, IMHO, and I think the stupidity takes away from it, rather than enhances it. I'm not the only one who feels that way about it, and neither view is right or wrong. I will never like AWIL and you really need to just accept it and move on.

I knew from the moment that I saw your comments on AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON that this would be a nonstop issue with you, if I "dared" to offer my counterview. You quoted Landis and provocatively added that you agreed: "it's rather silly for anyone to say this is a comedy or failed attempt at horror.". Well, then color me silly. Though not as silly as some of the dopey stuff in AWIL!
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Now, back to the Challenge....

10/03

Village of the Damned (1960)
Good film about an alien force which impregnates all the eligible women of a small British town, resulting in the birth of super-intelligent children who pose a threat to the community. Very well done as is, this did not require a 1995 remake. Besides, the later one wasn't as good.

Children of the Damned (1963)
Not quite up to the original, but this sequel takes things a step further as more potentially dangerous, advanced alien children cause concerns to mankind. What's interesting is the switch this time to children of different countries (India, Russia, America...). There's more of a serious political undertone to this story, which works in its favor.

THE MUNSTERS: "Pike's Pique"
THE MUNSTERS: "Low-Cal Munster"

FRIDAY THE 13TH - THE SERIES: "A Cup of Time"




2008 SCARY MOVIE CHALLENGE
01) Chamber of Horrors (1966) **1/2

02) Indestructible Man (1956) **1/2
03) The Earth Dies Screaming (1964) **
04) Village of the Damned (1960) ***
05) Children of the Damned (1963) **1/2


TV EPISODES Watched
THE MUNSTERS - "Munster Masquerade"
THE MUNSTERS - "My Fair Munster"
THE MUNSTERS - "A Walk on the Mild Side"
THE MUNSTERS - "Rock- A- Bye Munster"
THE MUNSTERS - "Pike's Pique"
THE MUNSTERS - "Low-Cal Munster"

FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES - "The Inheritance"
FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES - "The Poison Pen"
FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES - "Cupid's Quiver"
FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES - "A Cup of Time"
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Why don't you just let it go and allow me my own opinion? I think AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON is too stupid for its own good, IMHO, and I think the stupidity takes away from it, rather than enhances it. I'm not the only one who feels that way about it, and neither view is right or wrong. I will never like AWIL and you really need to just accept it and move on.

I knew from the moment that I saw your comments on AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON that this would be a nonstop issue with you, if I "dared" to offer my counterview. You quoted Landis and provocatively added that you agreed: "it's rather silly for anyone to say this is a comedy or failed attempt at horror.". Well, then color me silly. Though not as silly as some of the dopey stuff in AWIL!

Don't pull the blame game crap out on this when it was you who replied to what I wrote. You didn't reply to anyone else but me so quit reading what I write if you want to give a B.S. let you have your opinion junk. Whenever I go after something you write that isn't addressed to you then play your cry baby game.

There is an ignore button so use it when it comes to what I write.
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Don't pull the blame game crap out on this when it was you who replied to what I wrote. You didn't reply to anyone else but me so quit reading what I write if you want to give a B.S. let you have your opinion junk. Whenever I go after something you write that isn't addressed to you then play your cry baby game. There is an ignore button so use it when it comes to what I write.

This is a little unintelligible, so I'm not 100% sure what you meant to say... but I think I got some of it...

For one thing, I HAVE responded to others' posts too; not only yours. I don't believe in ever using the "ignore" function. If I choose not to respond to someone, I don't respond. But I believe everyone should be heard (read).

The main thing is, I'm sure many are tired of this Mike vs. Joe bickering. This particular thread is supposed to be fun. Let's try to keep it that way.
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This is a little unintelligible, so I'm not 100% sure what you meant to say... but I think I got some of it...

The main thing is, I'm sure many are tired of this Mike vs. Joe bickering. This particular thread is supposed to be fun. Let's try to keep it that way.


Thank you. The Karlosi/Elliot Wars shall return to its regularly scheduled time slot in the "track the films you watch" thread.

Let's have fun here kiddies!

Cheers,

Jason
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I watched Beetlejuice last night, on Blu-ray.
It looked nice by the way.
The movie is not scary, and really, its not all that funny now. Maybe i have seen it to many times, and the humor has worn off. Anyway, the fun of the movie is in its look, a comic book style. Very colorful, lots of stop motion, and fun make-up jobs make the movie one to re-visit.
I almost forgot what a young, thin Alec Baldwin looked like!
made me want him to have done more of the Jack Ryan films, not that i have a problem with the Harrison Ford take.

I give Beetlejuice a solid 4/5

Tonights movie...The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (remake)
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10/4 07 Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde (1920)

Though not a big fan of silent movies this was an interesting adaptation of the story. The Hyde character make-up was superb, better than any other rendition that I have seen and quite chilling. The only downside was that the story seemed to progress at a snails pace but Barrymore's acting is reason enough to see this.
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10/4 07 Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde (1920)

Though not a big fan of silent movies this was an interesting adaptation of the story. The Hyde character make-up was superb, better than any other rendition that I have seen and quite chilling. The only downside was that the story seemed to progress at a snails pace but Barrymore's acting is reason enough to see this.

I wish I could have liked this one more, Pat. For me, when I saw Barrymore making funny faces trying to turn into Mr. Hyde, he had me in unintended hysterics!
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Joe Karlosi wrote (post #168):

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The main thing is, I'm sure many are tired of this Mike vs. Joe bickering.

Oh, I can't resist adding my 5¢ worth.


Michael Elliott wrote (post #144):

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But there isn't any necessary requirement that the comedy can't obliterate the main horror.

There is in my book.

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You're going waaayyyy off the deep end here just because I personally felt that AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON had too much silliness and comedy that took away from the horror of it.

In general, if a film/tv episode succeeds as "comedy", it probably fails as "horror".

American Werewolf in London---and, yes, I have seen it more than twice; own the discs, in fact---frequently succeeds as the former, but ultimately fails as the latter, while The Howling, which beat American Werewolf to the box office by a few months and also featured then groundbreaking transformation make-up effects, does pretty well at both (although it, too, is sometimes borderline).

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I have to agree with Landis that I think it's rather silly for anyone to say this is a comedy or failed attempt at horror. As Landis said, how many comedies end with the two friends both dead?

What else was he goïng to say, "Too many obvious dumb sniggly Hollywood movie/tv references. I blew it!"?

Werewolf movies have an especial problem establishing and keeping "credibility", that willing suspension of disbelief. They don't get any help from the eye-winking and snickering department, à la the likes of Mr. Landis.

As if in order to get around this credibility problem, we will seemingly henceforth be treated to CGI lycanthropes? [Ugghh!] Laughable!
"Delenda est . . . . "
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Started off the Challenge with, what else, a buncha zombie flicks!


O.C. Babes and the Slasher of Zombietown - Orange County's SAG rejects take refuge in a bar during a zombie outbreak where they fall victim to a psycho killer. Too bad the filmmakers didn't join them there. Ten Little Indians meets Dawn of the Dead with feeble results in this cheapo rip-off - hell, the only zombies are seen in footage copped from Night of the Living Dead! Bury this deep, my friends. Not to be confused with Chopper Chicks in Zombietown, Zombie Town or O.C. and Stiggs. R1 DVD.

BOMB!



The Vanguard - The future. Society has collapsed. One giant corporation rules everything. In the wastelands roam the Biosyns, savage zombie-like creatures who are being systematically exterminated by government soldiers. Battling both is Max, a mute warrior who may hold the key to mankind's salvation. If this sounds like self-important pablum, that's because it is. The meat here is a guy running through fields and forests killing amped-up infecteds with his axes. But even this offers us nothing new while the rest is just dreary and monotonous. R1 DVD.

** out of ****



The Supernaturals - Star Trek's Lt. Uhura traded in her phaser for an M-16 to star in this middling eighties horror opus. Here she leads a platoon of soldiers from the army's 44th regiment into a southern forest on a training exercise. But little does she know that ghostly Confederate zombies haunt the woods and aim to get revenge for being massacred by Union troops (from the very same regiment) over a century earlier! Damn Yankees! DVD-R.

"Your dick is hallucinating!"

**1/2 out of ****



Noctem - Above average German zombie movie (though that's not saying much) has two undead apocalypse survivors fleeing to safety in the countryside. There they join a group of survivalists who may be more deadly than the ravenous zombie hordes! Cheap but effective, the Night of the Living Dead-inspired climax is the best thing about it. DVD-R.

**1/2 out of ****



The Corpse Eaters - Early seventies undead flick (produced by a guy who owned a drive-in) finds two couples partying in an abandoned graveyard. There one of them has the super bright idea of reciting some mumbo jumbo that supposedly raises the dead. Before you can say "Oh, shit!" they're attacked by shambling, very hungry zombies! Ha ha! As shoddy as you'd expect, but it does boast some gooey chow scenes. R1 DVD.

** out of ****



Loves of the Living Dead - Goofy Japanese obscurity about two cute lil' J-girls who own a boutique. Their new dressing room mirror harbors a demoness named Pinkish Red, the two guys across the way are trying to score with them, and an old school chum has accidentally raised an army of the dead! When Pinkish Red escapes the mirror she grabs one of the girls and drags her down to hell. Can the kidnap victim's friends (along with a ghostly cabbie) get her back? Entertaining in its own, crazy quilt, kaleidoscopic way, but eventually it wears out its welcome. DVD-R.

** out of ****



Dead Beat - Worthless short has a weird mortician reviving a female corpse with electricity. She dances around a bit and then collapses. And that's it. Frankenhooker it ain't. R1 DVD.

* out of ****
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10/5 08 The Indestructible Man (1956)

Pretty hokey horror movie without any real horror. Too many close-ups of Lon Chaney's insane eyes that seems sloppily inserted into the action. Like the narration though. It gave it a 1950's cop show feel.
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The main thing is, I'm sure many are tired of this Mike vs. Joe bickering. This particular thread is supposed to be fun. Let's try to keep it that way.

Then quit replying to anything I write. Here, elsewhere or anywhere.
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10/4 07 Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde (1920)

Though not a big fan of silent movies this was an interesting adaptation of the story. The Hyde character make-up was superb, better than any other rendition that I have seen and quite chilling. The only downside was that the story seemed to progress at a snails pace but Barrymore's acting is reason enough to see this.


To this day the 1920 version is by FAR my favorite. Barrymore is simply sensational and the atmosphere is through the roof. Jekyll and Hyde is one of my all time favorite stories.

Cheers,

Jason
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Updated List...
NOTE: Titles in BOLD are ones I viewed for the very first time.

Movies:

Oct. 1st:
1. Shadow Zone: The Undead Express - 4/5
2. Embrace of the Vampire - 2.5/5
3. Fright Night - 4/5
4. The Breed - 2.5/5
5. Crazy Eights - 3/5
6. The Invasion - 4/5

Oct. 2nd:
7. The Others - 4/5
8. Lake Dead - 4/5
9. The Willies - 2.5/5
10. Silver Bullet - 4/5

Oct. 3rd:
11. Psycho - 4/5
12. The Tingler - 3/5
13. Psycho II - 3.5/5

Oct.4th:
14. 976-EVIL - 2.5/5
15. Pulse (1988) - 1.5/5
16. Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge - 3.5/5
17. Psycho III - 3/5
18. Psycho IV: The Beginning - 3.5/5

TV Episodes:

Oct. 1st:
1. Masters of Horror: The V Word - 4.5/5
2. Tales from the Crypt: The Reluctant Vampire - 3.5/5
3. Friday the 13th: The Series: Season 1: The Inheritance - 4/5

Oct.4th:
4. Friday the 13th: The Series: Season 1: The Poison Pen - 3.5/5
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The second feature of the double feature last evening was Attack of the Giant Leeches.

11. Attack of the Giant Leeches: Definitely the "B" movie here. Didn't have the same sense of fun that Wasp Woman had in abundance. Corman produced isn't always Corman directed (though the Lady in Red directed Julie Corman and produced by hubby Corman gave any of his directorial efforts a run for their money!) And Piranha by Joe Dante was also a heck of a lot of fun - Barbara Steele. Yummy. Anyway - back to the flick in question. Just didn't have any appeal. Found it to be tedious. Subplot about the cheating wife added a bit, but too brief to really care much. Opened strong in typical Corman fashion with a host of interesting characters having a fun conversation. Quickly lost it though. Oh well. Can't love 'em all.

12. The Abominable Dr. Phibes: Yes! Here was a great flick. Wonderful creepiness throughout - particularly the musicians! Yikes! That's a band I don't want to run into! Loved the biblical usage. And of course - Vincent Price. He isn't given too much to do here unfortunately, but still - it's always great to see him.

Started watching The Creature Walks Among Us. Have about a half hour left, so I may have to finish tomorrow. That darn party is getting in the way! Should be fun though. Hope everyone has an awesome night!

Cheers,

Jason
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Oct.4th:
14. 976-EVIL - 2.5/5
15. Pulse (1988) - 1.5/5
16. Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge - 3.5/5
17. Psycho III - 3/5
18. Psycho IV: The Beginning - 3.5/5

Are you posting your reviews anywhere? I always thought P3 was the best of the sequels. PHANTOM OF THE MALL is one I've been wanting to see since first seeing its ad in Fangoria countless years ago.


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One of my favorite "B" movies but it's doubtful I'm going to get it this year.


One For the Fire (2008) Robert Lucas, Chris Roe

Documentary on the 40th Anniversary of George Romero's Night of the Living Dead features most of the main folks behind the movie as well as a few of the lesser known people who had minor roles in the movie. Romero, John Russo, Russell Streiner, Judith O'Dea and Karl Hardman are among those interviewed but if you've listened to their commentaries over the years or listened to any interviews then you're not going to learn too much here. A few opinions have changed including Romero's opinion of having a black actor in the lead and how he should have handled it. In the film there's no mention or special move made to exploit it but now Romero wishes he would have done that. The most interesting parts of the documentary are going back to the original filming locations including the cemetery and the basement. Another fun thing happens at the start of the film with O'Dea and Streiner reenact their Johnny and Barbara sequence. Several famous fans of the film, including Alice Cooper, show up at the end to talk about it.

Monster Maker, The (1944) Sam Newfield

Rather gruesome PRC film has J. Carroll Naish playing a deranged doctor who falls in love with a young woman who reminds him of his dead wife. She doesn't want anything to do with him so he injects her father with a disease that will quickly turn him into a deformed monster. This film really plays out like a remake of The Raven as we have another love sick doctor seeking revenge against his enemies that try and keep him away from the one he loved. I was rather shocked at how mean and rather ugly this film was and it never tries to paint a pretty picture in how Naish is looked at. Most film want to end on a good note or want to make the doctor look sympathetic but that's not the case here. At first I didn't really buy Naish in the role of a suave ladies man as his introduction to the girl is rather strange and seems to have been written for someone like Lugosi. We even get a close up of his eyes, which is another Lugosi trademark but outside of this sequence I found Naish very entertaining. His performance is right on the mark and really delivers the goods as he never goes over the top in his craziness and instead really delivers a intense and straight performance. Ralph Morgan and Glenn Strange also deliver fine performances.

Maniac (1934) BOMB Dwain Esper

Dwain Esper's brilliantly awful horror/exploitation film about a nutty assistant who kills his protégé doctor and then takes over his identity. This film has just about everything you'd expect from the 1934 film including nudity, suicides, girls fighting each other with needles, cats having their eyes ripped out and eaten and that's not all. There's no question this is a horribly made film but the damn thing is just so entertaining because of that. You just sit there in shock asking yourself what's going to happen next.

Tell-Tale Heart, The (1953) Ted Parmelee

Oscar nominated animated film has James Mason narrating the action set to Edgar Allan Poe's classic story. I had heard great things about this film so I was very happy when I came across a copy and was even more thrilled when the film turned out to be so good. The movie does a brilliant job in its animation and I must say the look of the film seems so far ahead of its time that it looks more like a Pixar movie. Another terrific thing is the editing, which really seems ahead of its time and this also adds some nice tension to the film. Mason's vocal performance is where the heart is as he really gives it all and delivers a dynamite role. His breakdown towards the end has to be heard to believed as he is so incredibly good.



1. Frankenstein (1910)
2. Teenage Zombies (1959)
3. Spooks Run Wild (1941)
4. She-Wolf of London (1946)
5. We Want Our Mummy (1939)
6. Ape Man, The (1943)
7. Ape, The (1940)
8. Night to Dismember, A (1983)
9 Voodoo Man (1944)
10. Condemned to Live (1935)
11. One for the Fire (2008)
12. Monster Maker, The (1944)
13. Maniac (1934)
14. Tell-Tale Heart, The (1953)
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