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"This is more of a prequel than a sequel, there is your exclusive. Its going to be taking place in the same time frame."

"These are the events leading up to the 1982 film."

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I love the original "The Thing (1982)" (it´s a undisputed horror masterpiece), so this (prequel) doesn´t sound that bad... Then again, CGI would ruin this in a heartbeat.. Imagine some silly computer-created creature bouncing on the walls etc. Huu, scary.

IMO we still have hope, though (for this "new" film).

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Somehow I'm not all that excited. Maybe when we see some images from this "thing".

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

I'm so bored of prequels. Tell me what happens *next* in the story.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Here's the plot:

Norwegian scientists go to the arctic to study glaciers. They do this for 90 minutes, then find a mysterious object buried in the ice. THE END.

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

To me, the 1982 film used the original (The Thing From Outer Space) as the prequel to their story, except making them Norwegions. Nonetheless, I'll wait for the DVD on this one.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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Here's the plot:

Norwegian scientists go to the arctic to study glaciers. They do this for 90 minutes, then find a mysterious object buried in the ice. THE END.


Yeah, just not getting the prequel designation on this. Kurt Russel's character is born. He eventually becomes a scientist and gets his helicopter pilot's license. Maybe he flies in Vietnam during the war (uhm, police action! police action!). After his honorable discharge he's hired by an organization planning an operation in the arctic. Then...what Russell G said.

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

"Where are you taking this...Thing...?"



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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

There's two things that I'm sure are all but guaranteed with this movie: 1. There will be cheap CG and 2. it will be direct to video so most people won't even notice its release.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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"Where are you taking this...Thing...?"



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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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There will be cheap CG...

This is something that really worries me. I mean real "R-rated horror", monsters and CGI just doesn´t mix. Or they *rarely* really work...

So they should definitely bring "KNB Efx Group" etc on board from the first day.. Or even Rob Bottin (does he still work?)..

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

I'm with the "this makes no sense" crowd. Seriously, the "events leading up to the film… in the same time frame" (which excludes the spaceship crash) are pretty much the outfitting of the expedition, right? I mean, if one of Them had shown up somewhere else, everybody would have known about it beforehand.


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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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This is something that really worries me. I mean real "R-rated horror", monsters and CGI just doesn´t mix. Or they *rarely* really work...

So they should definitely bring "KNB Efx Group" etc on board from the first day.. Or even Rob Bottin (does he still work?)..


Hell, give me any monster movie where the monsters are physically in the film, and not added in later(after the actors have filmed their green screen bits).

Sigh.........

                          

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Let's face it, if they make a great movie, it's a great idea. If they make a lousy movie, it's a lousy idea. We could probably have an interesting thread of movies that were thought to be very bad ideas before they were made.

That being said, since the 1982 version left things un-decided, a sequel makes more sense to me. It could be a sequel 25 years later or whenever. Wasn't the 1982 version made on a limited budget. It doesn't have the look of a movie that has had fistfuls of dollars thrown at the screen, and I mean that in the best sense. They should go for that in this prequel.

Until I actually smell the putrid stench of a bad movie, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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Let's face it, if they make a great movie, it's a great idea. If they make a lousy movie, it's a lousy idea. We could probably have an interesting thread of movies that were thought to be very bad ideas before they were made.

Some good points there. I´m personally not "against" of any movie or remake, I´m totally used to them.

IMO, e.g. "The Hills Have Eyes (2006)" is a great horror-movie. I loved it. Then again "The Hills Have Eyes II (2007)" was very mediocre. So you never know... Not every "remake", "sequel", "prequel" or whatever is "bad". Or "truly horrible", like e.g. "The Fog (2005)"...

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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Not every "remake", "sequel", "prequel" or whatever is "bad". Or "truly horrible", like e.g. "The Fog (2005)"...

Especially not in this case since John Carpenter's The Thing is a remake itself.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Prequel? Well the 1982 film did start off with the Norwegians trying to shoot the alien/dog and we did get to see the aftermath of their camp whatever it was so i suppose they can make a creepy 90min film of the first discovery of the saucer, the alien frozen in the ice, thawing, killing, taking over etc but I don't think the Norwegians spoke English in the 1982 film so expect plenty of subtitles.

Or they could do something more unexpected, the alien blob whatever it is, saying goodbye to it's family, kissing the wife and kids, lifting off from the home planet and out to explore the universe, loses control of it's ship and crashes into our planet, freezes in the ice and thousands of years later it's thawed out and taken captive by some strange alien creatures, it tries to make contact but it's shot at and badly hurt, it escapes and wreaks havoc... they could always cut in flashbacks of the doomed alien in happier times on it's home planet.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Who wants to see a movie about them crazy Swedes?

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Norwegian!

Anyway, Dark Horse comics did a good sequel to the Carpenter remake. Would make a good movie. But then again, the Dark Horse AvP comics would have been good movies too. But we didnt get anything as good as what they did.
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They're Norwegian Brett


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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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Or they could do something more unexpected, the alien blob whatever it is, saying goodbye to it's family, kissing the wife and kids, lifting off from the home planet and out to explore the universe, loses control of it's ship and crashes into our planet, freezes in the ice and thousands of years later it's thawed out and taken captive by some strange alien creatures, it tries to make contact but it's shot at and badly hurt, it escapes and wreaks havoc... they could always cut in flashbacks of the doomed alien in happier times on it's home planet.

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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

Johnny Angell wrote (post #14):
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Wasn't the 1982 version [of The Thing] made on a limited budget[?] It doesn't have the look of a movie that has had fistfuls of dollars thrown at the screen, and I mean that in the best sense.


If I remember correctly, it was produced for the then considered astronomic sum of $15,000,000 (1982 value; depending on whose "inflation calculator" one uses, that's anywhere from about $33,575,821.85 to $34,238,363.09 in 2008 dollar value). Universal Studios officials almost hit the roof. (Note Fox officials had balked just a few years earlier when Alien (1979) had come in at about $7.5M.)

The tv/comic book generation was just then "coming into its own" as a demographic target, and there was much less tolerance for "lavish" spending on "genre films" in those days, George Lucas not withstanding.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

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(Note Fox officials had balked just a few years earlier when Alien (1979) had come in at about $7.5M.)

I'm not sure that is entirely true. IIRC, Alien was supposed to be made for about $4M but after seeing Scott's "Ridleygrams" they actually nearly doubled the budget.

Anyway, regarding "The Thing" wasn't there some kind of "Thing" project that was supposed to happen a few years back with Frank Darabont attached? The reason I asked is because I watched "The Mist" last night again (the black and white version this time) and I think Darabont would have definately been the man for the job IMO for a sequel, prequel...whatever. The Mist has "The Thing" influence written all over it (Darabont is obviosly a big fan of the Carpenter film), and Darabont did a good job in the mist emulating the dread and fear/trust atmosphere that "The Thing" had as well as some horrific deaths.


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WillG wrote (post #23):
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(Note Fox officials had balked just a few years earlier when Alien (1979) had come in at about $7.5M.)


I'm not sure that is entirely true. IIRC, Alien was supposed to be made for about $4M but after seeing Scott's "Ridleygrams" they actually nearly doubled the budget.

Well, it's certainly possible that I've misremembered the figures (and the correct case)---I don't have on hand Cinefantastique's contemporary omnibus issue--and usually rock-solidly reliable---coverage of this film production---, but, if so, I'm not alone. If this is the source of your doubt
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Official documentation for the film states that the budget was $11 million, but other sources give different numbers. Sigourney Weaver has stated that it was $14 million, while Ridley Scott, Ivor Powell, and Tom Skerritt have each recalled it being closer to $8.4 million. McIntee, 14-15.

then I'm certainly in good company, and I wouldn't take any studio's quotation of its official figures for "gospel", since Hollywood-studio executives are notorious for covering up costs and expenses, lest their true profit margin be found-out and, consequently, precise royalties be exacted from them.

In any event, the point was---and is---that budgeting for such films at the time was waaaaay below the norm (in adjusted dollars) for other films of the day, while nowadays, when "genre films" are expected to be a normal, high source of revenue and not just one-weekend drive-in openers, such films may be more generously budgeted than comparable-level films in other genres produced by the same studios.
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Re: The Thing - prequel planned (not remake or a sequel)

I have so little faith in this idea.

But Carpenters is so great & holds up so well, if Hollywood was smart, they'd re-package it as a new movie, market the hell out of it and teenagers everywhere would probably love it.

It'd make more money than than this prequel idea (or lack of idea really).
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