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Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

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9/5/08 at 7:03pm
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I know there are some compulsive Gordon Ramsay watchers here... so who else caught the "Kitchen Nightmares Revisited" special Thursday night that evidently kicks off the new season?

I like that they've taken another good idea from the UK counterpart of the show, going back to the restaurants to see how things are going a year later. It was nice to see that Ramsay actually made an impact on these places, and also nice to see Gordon lighten up a bit! I hope this is an indication they'll be lighter on the reality show theatrics this season, but this is Fox we're talking about...

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9/5/08 at 7:54pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

Unfortunately, we only got the first half shown in my timezone due to the convention. I set to record 2 hours, but the second half wasn't shown until after the evening news. The tv guide had it wrong.

How did the Indian Roach place do when went back? Did they mention the lawsuit?

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9/6/08 at 5:42pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

No mention of lawsuits. Everyone seemed peachy at all the restaurants. It was a veritable Gordon Ramsay love-fest.

The whole two-hour show is available for viewing at Fox.com

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9/6/08 at 6:39pm
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Woohoo for on-demand.

I got to see the second half. And you are right, it made it seem like Gordon is a god. LOL

The previews for this season made it look like he found even worse places to tackle. It also looks like he got someone arrested for something. Probably just fancy editing as usual.

Looking forward to the new season.

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9/6/08 at 7:21pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

Man there was a lot of editing going on their as I know a lot of restaurant owners weren't happy with the editing of their respective restaurants and what occured and that was probably edited out of this one to make it a Gordon love fest. Apparently the UK version that he does is better as it doesn't rely on the dramtics, music, editing, and fights and focuses more on the changes he puts in place.

Also interesting that Gordon didn't turn up to the last one probably because that guy (the brother who turned up in ther new Merc) hasn't changed. Still looks like he's full of himself. Would of loved Gordon to give him another serving.
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9/6/08 at 10:12pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

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Apparently the UK version that he does is better as it doesn't rely on the dramtics, music, editing, and fights and focuses more on the changes he puts in place

Yep, you're exactly right. I recently caught an episode on the BBC channel on DISH. It's pretty much like a documentary.


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9/7/08 at 10:51am
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

They show the BBC version almost nightly here in Canada on the Food Network, and I agree that it is better. I still enjoy the American version, however.
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9/8/08 at 2:56am
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

They didn't show all of the restaurants from last year either. I was waiting on that one pizza place in California where the guy wanted to be franchised. If I remember, he went back to his old menu the minute Ramsay left.
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9/8/08 at 8:13pm
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Apparently the UK version that he does is better as it doesn't rely on the dramtics, music, editing, and fights and focuses more on the changes he puts in place.
As others have said, this is absolutely true. If it weren't for the UK show, I wouldn't even bother with the Americanized version. As I like to tell people, the UK show makes Gordon look like a human being.

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9/8/08 at 9:59pm
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As others have said, this is absolutely true. If it weren't for the UK show, I wouldn't even bother with the Americanized version. As I like to tell people, the UK show makes Gordon look like a human being.


Very true. The UK version is infinitely better than Fox's offering, but I still watch the American version anyway just because I enjoy watching Ramsay.

It will be the same with Top Gear. There's no way the show NBC is cooking up will come close to the UK version, but I'll probably watch it anyway since I love cars.

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9/12/08 at 10:37am
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The first regular episode of the season was on last night - The Handlebar on Long Island.

I could see the trademarks of the Fox-ified "Kitchen Nightmares," but it felt like it was taking more inspiration from the UK series. Gordon was very patient, which (if you think about it) was pretty amazing considering a chef who has little interest in being a chef and a stubborn owner/manager who was very complacent and was ready to write Ramsay off. Gordon got angry at the guy, but he was very firm and direct without flying off the handle. There were some very nice moments with Gordon and the staff and Gordon and the owner's wife, where we could feel that he was working with and inspiring them rather than just getting angry. That's the kind of thing I always liked in the UK show.

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9/12/08 at 10:49am
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Didn't it look like Gordon had blood running down his finger when he was showing the sludge? Was that just some red sludge, or Blood?

I would hate to put a open, bleeding cut into that sludge. Who knows what is growing in it.

I agree that he was much more patient than I would have expected. I have to think that the Chef had to have had more conversations with Gordon than were shown. It is hard to believe he would have even worked with her after she said she didn't want to be a chef.

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9/12/08 at 12:03pm
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That was definitely blood. He must have cut himself pretty bad reaching into the dark corners of that walk in fridge.

The owner of the Handlebar was such a whiny little baby. He's lucky he has a wife who is so committed to the business.

I was surprised that they didn't show Gordon returning some months later to check up on how things went after he left. I wonder if this was a one time only thing or if they plan not to do those return updates this entire season. That would be too bad. The epilogues at the end of the episodes were a standard part of all his past seasons.
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9/12/08 at 1:10pm
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Anybody else notice Mick Foley as one of the guests at the re-opening? I'm a little surprised they didn't give any face time or even point out that it was him.
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9/12/08 at 2:02pm
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Yep I noticed Mick as well. It was one of those "is that who I think it is?" moments.

I thought it was pretty cool that Dee Snider helped with the promotion of the relaunch. The Harley that was offered for auction is still up on eBay for bidding until the 21st, and looking over the menu posted on the restaurant's website, it looks like they didn't change much from what Gordon helped them with.
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9/12/08 at 7:49pm
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I love Ramsey! I've seen all his BBC and Fox shows... This season is fun.

Oh, and the "j. willy's" episode was filmed in my town... I've never been there, but I heard it was actually better before the chef came into town. heh.
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9/18/08 at 11:14pm
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Good ep. Some behind the scenes of this ep-

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9/19/08 at 7:52am
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I fell asleep in the middle. Did they successfully make it through the service with the new menu after struggling a bit in the beginning?

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9/19/08 at 9:21am
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I fell asleep in the middle. Did they successfully make it through the service with the new menu after struggling a bit in the beginning?


LOL. I haven't watched it yet but one of these times they are going to fool us and not make it. You have such a way of stating these things.
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9/19/08 at 2:29pm
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It was actually good (I hope you DVRd it so you can watch it) - one of the main staff guys started to blame everything on Ramsey, and ended up leaving in a huff.

There was no follow up on what happened to this guy. I was hoping they would show him being fired...
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9/19/08 at 2:41pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

Episode #2
Giuseppi's

I thought was fine.
They must have kept their kitchen in good clean order,
Since Ramsey never had to investigate.
I felt last night episode was more of a Dr. Phil type show
then it was Ramsey.
But it was nice to see Ramsey have a little heart and bring a family together.
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9/21/08 at 3:51pm
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I don't know, I wasn't into this episode quite as much as last weeks. I guess it's probably because even though the food, decor and tensions in the kitchen obviously needed work, what was going on didn't seem anywhere near the disaster that Last Week's "Handlebar" restaurant was. If it weren't for the family angle, the episode probably would not amounted to much


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9/22/08 at 10:08am
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I thought it was kind of a refreshing change. I wouldn't want the whole series to be like that, but it was a good contrast against the usual "shocking" episodes.
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9/26/08 at 4:42pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

We got a double episode this week

Trobiano's and The Black Pearl

So far I've only watched Trobiano's
and I really liked this episode a lot.
It was mind boggling at how Anthony was so arrogant.
He says he knows he's a great chef.
But how can you know you're great without tasting
and flat out refusing to taste your own food that you cook.

It was also very surprising how Anthony got Tiffany's parents to commit to something as serious as helping him own the restaurant.
Then being over a half million in debt.

Then when Chef Ramsey came back to inspect the kitchen, I was speechless as Anthony was as to his lack of caring and "that's why we have cleaning staff" reactions.

There were two big laugh out loud moment is when Chef Ramsey was talking to the early bird customers, and said "It's great spending time in the company with the Golden Girls."
The other one was is when he first sat down talking to Tiffany's parents about the silverware setting, "Knife, fork, spoon and straw."

I found it very strange on one of Anthony's made up dishes, the shrimp hidden inside the chicken.

It was really great to see Ramsey help them turn the restaurant around and make them come together. And also to see Anthony and Tiffany get married.
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9/27/08 at 6:18am
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I found it very strange on one of Anthony's made up dishes, the shrimp hidden inside the chicken.

I saw that and was almost sick. The whole concept strikes me as ick.
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9/27/08 at 7:15am
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The whole concept strikes me as ick.

I agree. The dish should have been called the "Chicken Parasite".

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9/27/08 at 4:05pm
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Wow. I just watched the second episode in the double header, "The Black Pearl".

If there is anything I'd love to see it'd be a 6 month later. Maybe a 4 week later. Because that owner was such an ingrate. As they kept serving food "this is ridiculous, we can go back to the old stuff".

His argument over marketing "Maine Lobster" while buying Candian Lobster "they are the same animal" .. uh, dude, it's about the kind of water they are in, and yes, it does change the taste. Idiot. Beside that it's fake marketing.

I've never seen an episode where I watched Ramsey walk out and basically have to say "I think I just wasted my time". But that's exactly what happened.
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9/27/08 at 5:40pm
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Re: Kitchen Nightmares Season 2

The Black Pearl

mattCR,
you're absolutely right.
This David guy was an absolute ingrate and jackass.
You saw it the first moment he walk in with the coat and sunglasses.
When they were tasting all the new dishes, his remarks were all negative.
When Ramsey and his team redecorated the place, his attitude was also negative.
I thought they did a fabulous job making the place look nice.
The lanterns on the table added a nice decor, which David also hated.
And when the lobster mascot walked in, everyone was laughing and having a good time,
and you could see David just sitting their with a blank look on his face.

The whole conversation about buying the lobsters from the same whole seller and same animal concept,
so it makes no difference, was mind boggling, as it was to Ramsey.

I would also LOVE to see a six months later at that place.
Was this the first place that Ramsey ended the show basically unresolved.
It's hard to remember, but I think it was.

I thought it was great that Ramsey told Greg and the other guy to take your money and get out of the business.
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9/27/08 at 6:03pm
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Actually, didn't he tell them to raise some money, and buyout David? Since they had a "good thing" there, but David was clearly holding it back.
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9/27/08 at 10:52pm
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I really wanted Ramsay to punch David right in his fat face. I've watched both the UK and U.S. versions of this show and he's by far the most obnoxious person I've seen yet. I'd actually love to see him fail, but the two other owners seemed like good guys so it would be a shame to see them dragged down with the ship.

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