Heroes - Season Three

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No need to call it. Hiro is clearly a robot.

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Now, that I will agree with. Every indication so far has been that he stops time completely. And he can go backwards in time as well as forwards, why can't he make it stand still?

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Amen...

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Maybe Daphne's ability isn't running really fast, but instead, she is able to slow time for everyone else, while she still runs at normal speed, and they her power and Hiro's partly cancel each other out.

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It probably speaks ill of me in a number of different ways that I immediately wondered how he would avoid suffocating and dying if time stood still for him but not all the air molecules around him, so specifying that he's just slowing things down makes a lot more sense.

Besides, I then had to reject that thought because it led to "then how do he and other people in slow-time talk to each other, because it's not as if Hiro doing this changes the speed of sound any."

Still, I figure that if time were truly stopped, he wouldn't be able to affect anything.

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I just finished watching the Second Season DVD and I think I'm caught up. I forgot so much as others have said. Nathan's shooting was the cliff hanger. The killer walking away sure did look like Peter, even though he's far away and his back is to the camera, as if they knew when they filmed it back then.

Adam is buried alive, forgot that too. The Shanti Virus is destroyed, which Adam wanted to unleash onto the world, forgot that. But isn't some component of it still out there in one of the Heroes blood stream? And since Mohinder used the blood meant for Nikki on Maya and Sylar took the rest, could Mohinder have used Maya's blood to make more of the cure for Niki? No matter, she appears to be dead.

Forgot Noah made the deal to go back to the company in return, he'd stop Claire from exposing the Heroes. So it explains why he was working with Mrs. Petrelli and Sylar.

What I am wondering is, if I missed it, what the Pandora's Box she referred to at the end of the last second season episode. I assume that is being revealed now in the current chapter.

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I'm starting to believe Pandora's Box is #2 on the list (behind Kaitlin being trapped in the future) of things that they don't really plan on explaining and hope that we forget all about it.

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Well, the pacing is so scatter-shot in an attempt to ramp up the tension, but it just fails to entertain. I really hope they have a decent sized rabbit they'll be pulling out of a hat because these future "possible" storylines continue to lack dramatic weight and consequence. Perhaps the directive to pick up the pace in storytelling (almost in direct contrast to season 2's glacial pace) has resulted in chaotic plot turns that crams far too many plotlines without allowing them to breathe and simmer. So far, we are subjected to episodes being cut together to produce a breakneck pace that doesn't feel natural or enjoyable.

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Personally, I find it both natural and enjoyable

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+1


"Hiro, you son of a...."

Awesome.

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I really liked it too. In the future, a lot of things were explained and the stakes were effectively established. I'm not sure why Molly four years in the future is the same actress (without any attempts to show age, unlike Daphne the speed demon), but then it's Parkman's dream so I guess some details can slide. I found it interesting that Peter essentially forced Sylar to turn him into as big of a monster as Sylar. And unlike the promos, Sylar wasn't cute and cuddly but just putting on a show for the sake of his son. He seemed like someone who genuinely reformed but still struggled privately. The Haitian explains how Peter could get the scar, too.

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Doesn't Peter now have the Haitian's ability? I guess he has to figure out how to access it, but nobody should have been able to do anything in Costa Verde. He passed the Haitian after FP was shot.

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Wouldn't the Haitian cancel out Peter's sponge ability? I'd imagine the only way for Peter to get his ability would be to open up his brain and take a look with his new Sylar power.

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Yeah, that's a great point.

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Not sure how I feel about this future stuff.
This is fast becoming like 24 for me, like the writers are making this up as the season progresses.
Mohinder is rapidly rashing only a few days after the injection yet 4 years later he barely has changed. It was like they didn't know what to do with him (or didn't want to budget the effects).
Why is everyone in the future? If future Peter knows he screwed things up by messing with the past, why on earth would he bring present Peter in the future???
How can future Peter die? Wouldn't he recover when Seal leaves the room?
And I didn't get the Claire with the scalpel thing. Hey Claire, it was 100% your fault, why didn't Peter tell her that?
And how did Claire get back? I must have missed it.
Did the speedster grab her and Peter and get them out of there?
If so, I guess she has super strength to boot?
With all of that, I am still enjoying it more then Season 2 (full episodes in old Japan).
BTW, am I the only one that doesn't care about the fat cop with super hearing and Ali Larter? I can't hit fast forward fast enough when they come on the screen.

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Really? I thought the future Mohinder was cloaked and had a tentacle thing instead of a hand.. or I'm wrong.. But I thought as a result of that (and a few other things) they've set it up so that the only possible resolution is a leap back to the past to undo it. I hope that I'm wrong, but unless they wipe out Mohinder as a narrator, etc. and come up with something sensical, that's the only conclusion. Which means the whole segment has to end in a reset. Like I said, hope I'm wrong. But now that they've also given Peter "The Hunger" (he killed his own future brother), there are too many characters that have to be "undone" if they are to stay heroes.


Yeah, I wondered that too.


What's interesting is that they are trying to put Parkman and this speedster together as a couple. I guess the actress who played his wife has just dissappeared.

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I'm pretty sure it was said that they separated between S1 and S2. So four years later, it makes sense that they've finalized a divorce.

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Wow. Again, at the expense of sounding rude, pretty much EVERYTHING you are "questioning," is either extremely obvious, or was clerly explained.

I'm sorry but "the writers are clearly making this up as they go," is really just code for "I don't understand what's going on, so clearly it's the writers' faults."

Why is everyone in the future? Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but the only person we see who is non-indigenous to that future, is Present Peter. Future Peter brought him there to show him WHY it is so important that the events be changed - to show him just WHY he shot Nathan. If someone won't believe you, you show them. It's pretty simple. And hey, it worked!

Mohinder CLEARLY looked different in the future - he looked essentially like a bug/man cross. His hand was 3 fingered, and heavily scaled, and the portion of his face that wasn't shadowed was likewise scaled, with a reptillian eye of sorts (or at least the socket appeared that way).

How can Future Peter die? Well, the Haitian was blocking out his power, and he died like any normal person would. It appears that unless the healing power is allowed to run unchecked while the bearer lies "dead," they stay dead. We have never seen the combination of the Haitan and Claire/Peter dying before, so it's not strange that we've never seen this before. It's not lazy writing, it's called new information on how a power works.

Claire with the scalpel? She was making Peter suffer for events that occured in the Future, including the explosion. While it may have been her crew's actions that directly led to Sylar exploding (they killed his son, Noah), she clearly sees Peter as one of the original causes of the entire mess, and is therefor dealing out some non-healing justice.

How did Claire and Peter survive? Well, they have this ability to heal...

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Actually, if you can believe this from a person like me who
has been very negative about this season and was afraid of
this week's episode based on last week's previews....

I really liked this episode. For the first time ever it was feeling
a bit like season one.

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I wonder how long until we meet the other triplet, Barbara...

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That is nice except for the prior episode that went out if its way to explain the Butterfly Effect. I screwed up the present so much, how about I screw up further and bring Peter to the future?

Maybe, but it seemed like a guy in cloak. I saw the claw but if he is becoming bug like after 2 days, I expect something a little bit more obvious after 4 years. Think what Goldblum looked like after a week.


Hmmmm, when Peter is established as the most powerful Hero and other lesser Heroes return from the dead so easily, I do see it as lazy writing, just my opinion. But, I think them showing him on the slab for so much time tells me he will be making a comeback.
Again, the Costa whatever tragedy is 100% her fault and I couldn't relate to torturing her Uncle with that reasoning. She needs to be a little conflicted or maybe I am just not seeing why Peter is so bad.
And maybe I am a little slow to the obvious but when did the villians (fear guy and speed girl) become good guys?

I don't remember ever saying that but if it helps your argument, go ahead.
I asked how did Claire and Peter get back to NY or wherever she did her torture. Unless this new Claire can teleport, the speed girl took her there along with Peter, which means she picked them both up, which must mean she has super strength too?

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We don't have all the information about what is happening in the future. It appears that there is a schism between different power factions. On one side are people who "naturally" have their powers and on the other side are people who were "given" their powers.

Neil

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And it appears we were correct - it was Daphne/the speedster.

Neil

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I was genuinely surprised by 2 sequences, Future Peter being shot "dead". And the last sequence when Mother Petrelli said Hiro was the only one who could do it and Hiro and Ando dug-up Adam, the picture goes black. That came up faster then expected! So perhaps in order to fix the future, Hiro has to go backwards in time, against his earlier stated declaration to avoid the past.

Oh yeah, who is Noah's mother and what happened to HRG, Sylar's son is an homage to him? Sylar going nuclear was another surprise that I forgot to mention. But then it's the future seen in Parkman's dream, so it doesn't count yet.

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Mr. Muggles.

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No, I think its clear that Sylar used his ability to see how things worked down there and absorbed that 'ability' so that HE is the mother.

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And he's undoubtedly his own grandpa. Somehow.

I'm with Ron on this one. I think the last two episodes have been pretty good. If last season is any indication, I tend to like the show when no one else does and vice versa.

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I would really like to know the thinking behind Mother Petrelli wanting them to do this. She had this horrible vision which appeared to have Adam along with others doing terrible things. One way of changing that would be to have Adam stay where he is, but she wants to bring him out. I would like to say that Hiro and Ando argued with her before going to get him. On top of this Adam wanted revenge on her as well and she knew this.

Could it be that she believes the power formula business is some plan that Adam set in motion while he was out and she thinks that somehow she can get the information out of him?

Neil

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As a father of a 5yr old boy. I was bothered by the killing of Sylar's son.

Also, could Sylar's son "Noah" be HRG glasses guy who somehow age regressed to a little boy??

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^ I was thinking the name Noah was a dedication to his deceased (?) partner.