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...to the ham-fisted direction of Jonathan Mostow...

Oh, you mean Jonathan "I ruined Terminator" Mostow? Well, upcoming "The Surrogates" sounds interesting. He´ll have one last chance.

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Now where the Hell is the Blu-ray of the ultimate WWII U-boat film, Das Boot?!

Very good question. "Das Boot" is the ultimate U-boat masterpiece. I doubt, that we´ll see a better U-boat movie ever again (even the "mini-series" of that works).

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Now where the Hell is the Blu-ray of the ultimate WWII U-boat film, Das Boot?!
I've asked that question to myself several times. I'd replace my DVD copy of DAS BOOT immediatley if SONY got off their ass and released it on Blu-ray. U-571, on the other hand, is a purchase only if the price is right.

I consider U-571 to be the ARMAGEDDON of WWII flicks and that is not meant to be a compliment. U-571 only finds a spot on my shelf because it is ear candy AND because I have a soft spot for WWII flicks.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

Didn't we have this argument once before or was it 2-3 times?

Anyhow, I bought this again on Blu-ray because I like the film for what it is and was able to purchase this from Amazon for 13.98 due to it being part of an action pack of BRD along with Miami Vice and End of Days. Not bad for $41.95.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Anyhow, I bought this again on Blu-ray because I like the film for what it is and was able to purchase this from Amazon for 13.98 due to it being part of an action pack of BRD along with Miami Vice and End of Days. Not bad for $41.95.

Ah, it´s this:
Amazon.com: Action Starter Pack (Miami Vice / End of Days / U-571) [Blu-ray]: Colin Farrell, Jamie Foxx, Li Gong, Naomie Harris, Ciarán Hinds, Justin Theroux, Barry Shabaka Henley, Luis Tosar, John Ortiz, Elizabeth Rodriguez (III), Domenick Lombardoz

Interesting.. While both "U-571" and "End of Days" (Arnie "crying", gotta love that! ) are rather cheesy, I might get them for this price. Thanks for the tip.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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..and that´s kinda sad when you think of it. I mean in the end, all it takes is 15-30 minute in Wikipedia.. It´s not that you need to read 10 books about it.

With every film "based on real history", I tend to dig up more information from the net, etc after the film (and yes, I´m a WW2 buff anyway). To me, it just expands the film experience, even if you find out, that the story is not always that faithful to real history.

Yeah I'm the same way.

I often find the real life event to be more interesting than the movie and then wonder why they didn't make the movie be closer to the real event.


As for U-571, I enjoyed it even with its historical inaccuracies and all. I do wonder though what Americans who don't care about it being changed would think if a movie based on Americans doing something got changed to say, russians. I bet these people would have issues with it.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Yeah I'm the same way.

I often find the real life event to be more interesting than the movie and then wonder why they didn't make the movie be closer to the real event.


As for U-571, I enjoyed it even with its historical inaccuracies and all. I do wonder though what Americans who don't care about it being changed would think if a movie based on Americans doing something got changed to say, russians. I bet these people would have issues with it.
Most Americans my age grew up on biographies, westerns and war films which were about as inaccurate as you can get in regard to historical accuracy. Hollywood's poor record on such matters goes back to their silent film days. Their excuse, films were made mainly then and still are today to entertain people and hopefully make a profit for the studios. Luckily for us, Hollywood has improved slightly in the accuracy department, but they still have a long way to go in this matter.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

Interesting comparison over at AVS, showing that for some reason Universal seem to have applied extra DNR to the Blu.
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Yeah we covered that in Mr. Harris' U-571 thread. AVS is not worth the electrons its printed on as far as a community any more and everyone there is a self appointed expert.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Interesting comparison over at AVS, showing that for some reason Universal seem to have applied extra DNR to the Blu.

Ugh, I really hope this isn't true.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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..and everyone there is a self appointed expert.

Here here. They´re really into those screencaps there..

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Here here. They´re really into those screencaps there..

What wrong with my direct digital screengrabs?
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Yeah we covered that in Mr. Harris' U-571 thread. AVS is not worth the electrons its printed on as far as a community any more and everyone there is a self appointed expert.

Don't take it too personal no one is attacking you.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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What wrong with my direct digital screengrabs?

This wasn't directed to you. It´s just, that perhaps people should actually watch these movies vs staring those endless screencaps from the net.

I respect your efforts, don´t get me wrong. Screencaps can be helpful and all that. The "climate" in the different forums (at the moment) just isn´t something that I personally like. Many people draw out only the negative points.

I guess that´s why I mainly post to HTF. No time for BS.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

Exactly, and I'm not defensive about my reviews or my qualifications such as they are Xylon. We simply have different priorities when it comes to films, transfers and Blu in particular. Also, as Jari points out, I'd rather be a part of something that takes a holistic, even a positive view of these releases rather than being bogged down in the dregs of negativity that AVS and other forums have sunk to. Note my comments in the other U-571 thread.

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Yeah we covered that in Mr. Harris' U-571 thread. AVS is not worth the electrons its printed on as far as a community any more and everyone there is a self appointed expert.

I understand what you're saying - particularly in the software section, but AVS is still the best site on the Web when it comes to hardware and display discussions. There are some very intelligent, informative individuals (Bob Pariseau is a great example) in some of those threads. Yes, there's nonsense in there too, but you just have to mentally filter that out.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Exactly, and I'm not defensive about my reviews or my qualifications such as they are Xylon. We simply have different priorities when it comes to films, transfers and Blu in particular. Also, as Jari points out, I'd rather be a part of something that takes a holistic, even a positive view of these releases rather than being bogged down in the dregs of negativity that AVS and other forums have sunk to. Note my comments in the other U-571 thread.

I also make positive reviews a lot more than the negative one. Not a lot of postings in those I would say they agree with me. Not worth replying. I mean look at my The Professional PIX thread you almost hear crickets

Its the negative reviews that gets all the attention. Most of it are "explanations" why the PQ is bad and apologists that say "Who cares? Its better than DVD!!! "

My screenshots from different formats supported by BD Info and log files that I include in my threads are just a tad more unforgiving. I know it frustrated some online reviewers and I understand they can't possible do an A/B comparison everytime they review a movie and make a more accurate evaluation. And because of that they get some undeserved bashing from HT/AVS members.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

Bottom line, does this thing THUMP or what?! Has anyone tried it out? I've yet to throw mine in, but mave have to soon since I should probably do so while people are awake rather than waking them with this bombast!

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

ron, read the first and second post.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

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Now where the Hell is the Blu-ray of the ultimate WWII U-boat film, Das Boot?!
I especially liked the ending in Das Boot.
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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

Just got done watching the BD.

I have the HD DVD previously so I can somewhat compare the two titles.

Video-wise I actually found the picture to be quite sharp----- however--- I definitely noticed less grain than on the HD DVD. I won't say how much it affected picture quality as my setup is a 46" model. Having said that, I'm not sure one is better than the other.

As for the audio:

HOLY S__T!!!!

Tier 0 definitely and i'd say just a shade below my other favorites:

MASTER AND COMMANDER
THE ORPHANAGE

It's not just a matter of the depth charges, but the subtle details found while they were being depth charged. The breaking of glass, fatiguing of the metals, the crashing of lights- all very cleanly articulated.

If I could use a word to describe it, the word is RESONANCE. That's what the DTS-MA track allows is resonance of the original signal.

I used to have the HD DVD and while the DD+ and the DTS were very good, it had nowhere near the articulation and resonance of the DTS-MA track. There's more to it than just improved dynamics. The dialogue was particularily clear, the humming of engines and the intialization of equipment that was previously hiding in previoius audio formats, are now realized.

For lossless junkies this is a necessary BD to check out!
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...but AVS is still the best site on the Web when it comes to hardware and display discussions.

Yes, plenty of good info those sections, I agree. And yes, less "debate", especially after the "war".

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Re: HTF Blu Ray Review: U-571

Anyway...

While it does appear to be missing some of the grain I seem to recall from previous versions, this BR is still excellent in many ways. It still retains that very film-like presentation and in looking at a few scenes, I thought the black levels looked rock solid. While I feel that ALL the grain should be intact, this is no where near being one of the biggest offenders.

On the audio side, this BR rocks the house, literally and figuratively. I have over 1,000 watts of outboard amplification and 2 subs and there were times during the depth charge scene where I thought they were gonna fold up and pack it in, that scene is just that taxing. To go from the quiet of the sub to the slam of an exploding depth charge(s), you system had better be up to par to really deliver the audio goods.

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