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Re: DVD's That are Better than The Blue Ray Versions
Why did you think Deliverance was better on SD than "blu" (I have the HD DVD, which I presume is identical, and it looks better than any other release of it I've seen)?
Can't speak to the other one as I've never seen it in any format.
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You're mad if you think DELIVERANCE looks better on SD than BD (and I assume the look is your issue since the bonus features are identical between the two on the Deluxe Edition and better on the BD vs. the first SD release); I can only assume you prefer the duller, darker look of the original snapper case DVD to the warmer, more colorful transfer of the Deluxe Edition. If that's your case, I respectfully disagree, but I know you're not alone. If, however, you are making the case that the SD of the Deluxe Edition is superior to the Blu-ray then, yeah, you're flat out mad.
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Yes, I am most definitely *not* looking forward to seeing the Criterion announcement for TLE on BD unless they fix the MAR issue.
BTW, while there is another thread on the topic of the MAR-ed Criterion TLE in the SD subforum, there is *not* one here in the HD subforum, IIRC.
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Since we´re nitpicking.. It´s BLU-ray dammit.
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Re: DVD's That are Better than The Blue Ray Versions
Not against this thread.
However...
being pro-SD DVD & anti-HD Disc, it should be in the SD Forum.
DVD Beaver has a comparison of "Deliverance".
Check it out!
Because they are "different" (don't fight over this), "BS Dracula" is one where some may prefer the SD over the HD. Same w/"Payback".
Sound on "T2" may be another SD 'win'.
Where's the BD's that are better than DVD's thread?!?!?! ;-)
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Where's the BD's that are better than DVD's thread?!?!?! ;-)
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Oh, there's a few of those. You can find them here:
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Just an aside: the quality of the TCM broadcast of The Paradine Case proved to me that older movies shot 1.37:1 will rarely if ever need to be seen in high-def.
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Until, that is, you actually see some of those older movies in HD. There's a pretty good argument that old movies benefit more from HD than newer ones, because their picture quality was never limited by digital intermediates or CGI effects.
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Sorry, I was just expressing my opinion.
I do own Casablanca on HD DVD. It looks great, really great, and I'm happy to have it, but the DVD from Warners is terrific too.
I've watched some high-def broadcasts of old films (like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington) on HDNet, and the extra definition brings out the details on the print (like scratches and dirt) that are better left hidden.
If they can restore every film like Casablanca, then I'll be happy buying the BDs. Otherwise, my DVDs for most older films are fine.
But I'll certainly replace all my widescreen movies with BDs, as soon as they are available.  |
If you have seen some of the unrestored, (but made from good prints), of the Bob Hope films you might change your mind here. My Favorite Brunette for instance shows an amazing level of detail.
I think you might also be disappointed with early CinemaScope films like The Robe. They were shot with the original Henri Chrétien lenses that Fox bought from him, and are very soft compared to the later films shot with lenses made by Bausch and Lomb.
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I don't care for the BD extended version of Stargate. The theatrical version is the best. In addition, I don't think the transfer to Blu was well done. There are several scenes where the film grain turns into a screenful of sparkles. The CGI for the short-distance-transporter-rings is pretty bad in BD, the DVD mushed it out so it at least looked believable.
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I am sorry I should have said The earlier DVD of "Deliverance"
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There's no version of "Deliverance" that looks better than the HDM versions, so I'm not sure why this would make a difference.
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I don't care for the BD extended version of Stargate. The theatrical version is the best. In addition, I don't think the transfer to Blu was well done. There are several scenes where the film grain turns into a screenful of sparkles. The CGI for the short-distance-transporter-rings is pretty bad in BD, the DVD mushed it out so it at least looked believable.
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How's the EE?
As bad as the SD DVD?
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I may be in the minority here, but I prefer the Superbit version of Bram Stoker's Dracula to the blu-ray version. I like the color timing of the Superbit and I think the blu-ray is way too dark.
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Perhaps the newer televisions and Blu Rays will give more color depth to Technicolor movies like Gone with the Wind, but for black and white movies (many shades of gray), standard DVDs are fine, and look quite amazing.
Not at all. Grey scale is usually dumbed down for SD in order to avoid chroma key rainbowing. In HD the grey scale is represented in a manner much more akin to the original film. Just check out Casablanca, 20 Million Miles to Earth, and Jailhouse Rock.
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I guess your talking about the HD versions,I have the Blue Ray and did
side by side with a Original 16x9 Standard single disc after reading a post which
claimed the earlier version was better
Guess what? Its better! so much I went to amazon and Ordered a copy.
The extras are great on the Blue Ray ,so it isn't a waste at all
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I'd like to see this post which claims the DVD is better, because frankly they're speaking out of their behind. Just the resolution increase alone puts their statement to lie, as does essentially every review of the disc out there.
As for your personal experience with the disc, I don't know what to say. Calibration? Display gizmos that mess with sharpness? Non-HD resolution monitor? Dunno, but there is a 0% chance that the a 480p version is anywhere near to the 1080p version in quality. I can say this from first-hand experience. Unless you can provide screenshots showing the DVD quality winning out, I'm putting this one in the "Mythbusters" category.
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That sort of generalizations won't help the discussion at all, because it simply isn't true. I have no opinion about the "Deliverance" releases, but higher-resolution output image are only better if the higher-resolution content is there to begin with, and retained.
Else, you would also have a blind believe in the new Toshiba upconversion algorithms. Somehow, I don't think you do.
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I meant it in the sense of increased resolution from the source, not the inherent quality of the format itself (see also: the digicam resolution on "28 Days Later")
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This thread is about cases where viewers think the better resolution, or the higher colour definition isn't there in the blu-ray version. Or they perceive other problems.
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No, I have seen the "Deliverance" BD, and the difference in resolution is immediately apparent. It's not POTC sharp, but it's pretty good for 30 years old.
EDIT: I just noticed that Peter mentions he bought the earlier release, which is
a single-layer DVD from 2001, which for a nearly two-hour movie, would have been compressed all to hell. If he's thinking
that has higher resolution than the BD, I'd say there's something seriously wrong with his setup.
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