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Sometime's you reach what's real by making believe.
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Originally Posted by Phil Menard
If one can tolerate hyperbole in marketing, then one should be able to tolerate it in criticism.
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Movies are: "The Greatest Artform".
HD should be for EVERYONE!
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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I stand corrected regarding your opinion of "unwatchable" (though I appreciate the caveat of display size--something that will matter to many people, in a negative sense, as most people have what you would likely categorize as a "small monitor"). |
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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I stand corrected regarding your opinion of "unwatchable" (though I appreciate the caveat of display size--something that will matter to many people, in a negative sense, as most people have what you would likely categorize as a "small monitor").
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"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did." T.E. Lawrence
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Originally Posted by Douglas R
America certainly seems to be the land of big screen displays. Here in the UK I have a 42" plasma set which is considered big! I don't know anyone with a bigger screen and the majority of people have considerably smaller sets. I have no idea how many people here have projection equipment but I suspect the number in miniscule. Given that DNR problems are only really a problem on very large screens, I doubt that there will be many complaints about BR picture quality in the UK!
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Originally Posted by Ron-P
That's good to know then, but damn, it's nearly unwatchable it's so bad. My neighbors got this as a gift because I invite them over for movie nights quite often and while it's an ok zombie movie it's just too painful to watch due to the extremely poor PQ, glad I didn't spend any money on this title.
I have a difficult time believing that, considering some of the effects in this film. Save a few grand on some of the effects and spend a bit more on a camera that cannot be bought at Best Buy. |
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Originally Posted by PaulDA
Cute. If you think "unwatchable", "butchered" and "unlistenable" are not, at the very least, exaggerations (the last of the three a gross exaggeration with regards to lossy audio as a format), in the context of this discussion, then there is no more to discuss on that front.
The day I take a promise of "perfect quality" seriously, FOR ANYTHING AT ALL, is the day I will resign from society. Marketing slogans do not reflect reality as a general rule (unless the slogan is bland enough to be a truism). I fully support people's right to complain. I do not have to abide unnecessary exaggeration (which usually cheapens the point) in order to do so. And having worked in several "customer service" jobs, I know that the most credible complaint is the most reasonably voiced one. And even strong complaints do not require exaggeration to make their points, if they are serious ones. If someone just wants to vent, that's a different kettle of fish--but let's not confuse ranting with constructive criticism. |
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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
Maybe that's because those of us who own 28 Days Later are familiar enough with the movie to know that the BR is faithful to the source. The film was shot on consumer-grade digital video gear. That was the only way they could afford to make it...
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Originally Posted by Vincent_P
That's not true, they had more than enough money to shoot on film if they wanted (or at the very least High Def). Shooting on consumer-grade digital was an aesthetic decision.
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| "Danny was splaying these pretty horrific pictures of violence on a table in front of me and saying, 'This film is, of course, quite violent,'" Dod Mantle says with dry understatement. "There was a lot of location work and a lot of building on location, and that's expensive in London. We knew that if we shot on 35mm stock in a conventional format, we would probably have to lose quite a few scenes." In order to maintain the integrity of Alex Garland's script, the filmmakers opted for MiniDV, a format at the lower end of digital video's resolution scale. The advantage of MiniDV, however, was that its inherently small cameras could be set up quickly, which proved key to pulling off the stunning shots of deserted London. |
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Originally Posted by Josh Dial
Further, if an individual claims something is "unwatchable," or "butchered," I don't see how this is an exageration at all. The picture quality doesn't have to look like a Jackson Pollock painting to be considered unwatchable, nor does it have to be pan and scanned to be considered butchered. It seems that when someone says a movie is unwatchable, it simply means that the quality (picture, audio, et cetera) has dipped below that individual's invisible bar of expectation, and, therefore, is unwatchable. Would you have every single post justified ad infitnitum, as to what has failed to meet expectations, what has met them, and what as exceeded them? Does someone have to post paragraphs upon paragraphs of prose until they have satisifed the "hyperbole avoidance factor?" Not even RAH does that - he simply uses terms like "unwatchable," and expects the reader to be smart enough to glean the intended meaning, and not jump to extreme conclusions. |
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes time, and it annoys the pig.
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias
On a side note:
The "word" is "Dupey". We can make a dupe of a source. There is no way to make a doop of a source....  Vern |
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Originally Posted by Ron-P
I have a difficult time believing that, considering some of the effects in this film. Save a few grand on some of the effects and spend a bit more on a camera that cannot be bought at Best Buy. |
" I think it's time we go to plan B". "What's plan B?" "That's the one where we don't do something stupid".
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Originally Posted by Robert George
"Crusader" mentality combined with lack of real knowledge and/or experience is what is driving most of the incessant negativity on forums like this, AVS, and others. Pointing out deficiencies of a product is one thing, but much of what is going on in so-called enthusiast forums right now is ridiculous.
And it is sucking all the fun out of this hobby for many of us. (So, I guess my answer to the original question is, "yes".) |
So true.
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Originally Posted by Robert George
"Crusader" mentality combined with lack of real knowledge and/or experience is what is driving most of the incessant negativity on forums like this, AVS, and others. Pointing out deficiencies of a product is one thing, but much of what is going on in so-called enthusiast forums right now is ridiculous.
And it is sucking all the fun out of this hobby for many of us. (So, I guess my answer to the original question is, "yes".) |
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Originally Posted by TravisR
Since the format war ended, some people need something new to be constantly angry about.
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When you have to shoot...shoot. Don't talk!
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Originally Posted by TravisR
Since the format war ended, some people need something new to be constantly angry about.
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Rewind - DVDcompare/Site Administrator
*US PS3 (1080p) - Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI) - Nintendo Wii (Euro) - Sony PSP-2000 - Nintendo DSi
*HD DVD Toshiba XE1 (1080p) - Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000 (1080p) - Yamaha RX-V1800 (HDMI 1.3)
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Originally Posted by Robert George
"Crusader" mentality combined with lack of real knowledge and/or experience is what is driving most of the incessant negativity on forums like this, AVS, and others. Pointing out deficiencies of a product is one thing, but much of what is going on in so-called enthusiast forums right now is ridiculous.
And it is sucking all the fun out of this hobby for many of us. |
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Originally Posted by TravisR
Since the format war ended, some people need something new to be constantly angry about.
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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
The remedy I'm using for myself is to watch more discs and leave the excessive arguments to others.
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That's a practice made even easier for people like me with lower-end gear who don't (read: can't) notice all the criticisms leveled here.
