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Samsung HL61A750 Review

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Even though I haven't had very good luck with my internet service in the past month or so, I have had a good chance to run my new HL61A750 through its paces.

A few questions I've been asked:

Size -
From the top of tv stand to the bottom of the screen is 7". Nice for setting a smaller center channel speaker on the stand in front of the tv, except then the remote wont hit the sensor on the tv. Otherwise its a little 'blingy' at first, but hardly noticeable after a while.
The top and both sides are roughly 1/2", so the overall size is mostly the screen.
I have a fairly deep tv stand and I have it about 6" away from the wall to help with running wires, and from the wall to the front of the tv is still only 24". The tv itself is barely 14" deep.

Viewing angle -
Side to side is not bad at all. With 0 degrees being directly on the side of the tv and 90 degrees being directly in front of the tv, I often sit at my computer, which would be 45 degrees, while watching tv and notice no degradation in color, lighting, or quality. Pretty much equal to being directly in front of it. 45 degrees to 0 degrees there is some loss, but not nearly as noticeable as the last dlp set I had. The only point in my room where I can get less then about 30 degrees is less than 4 feet away from the tv, so pretty much any place I could sit in the room has good side to side viewing.
Top to bottom is a little different. With 0 degrees being directly below it, 90 degrees being directly in front of it, and 180 degrees being directly on top of it, there is no loss between roughly 55 degrees and 135 degrees. Between 135 degrees and up to about 160 degrees, there is a slow loss of light. Above 160 degrees and you can start to see a shadow effect caused by the screen and screen cover reflecting differently. Between 55 degrees down to about 45 degrees there is a loss in light as well, and below the 45 degree angle you can start to see the shadowing again. Pretty much any standard seating allows the viewing angle to be optimum. Extremely high seating or sitting on the floor directly in front of the tv are pretty much the only times when the viewing angle will cause a problem.
When checking out the viewing angles for the extreme sides, top, and bottom, I was forced to be within a couple feet of the tv - not really optimum viewing distance. My computer is on a 45 degree side angle about 5 feet away and on a 90 degree top/bottom angle and the picture looks great. My normal seating is about 10ft - 18ft away, and any side to side angle or top/bottom angle short of standing on the 10ft chairs produces a perfect picture.

Room Lighting -
I have my tv on a west wall with two very large windows. Even as I write this at 7pm with the blinds open and the sun blinding me, the tv still produces enough light to be seen clearly and it only gets better the darker the room is.
With the blinds closed and the room lights on I notice no reflections or washing effects at all.

Picture -
I may be a little biased in this portion of my review as my reciever upscales everything to 1080p. I haven't had a chance to run any lower quality stuff directly through the tv yet, but low quality home movies that I have burned to disc (again, upscaled through the receiver) still look great on the tv. Blu-ray and HD-DVD's running at their native 1080p look absolutely stunning.
The color is great. My last dlp set (hd-ila) had really deep and rich blacks, but had too warm of a look on bright colors and whites. This set seems to have not only stunning blacks and deep/rich dark colors, but also seems to do very well on the brighter colors and whites. The led's seem to do a far better job than the old bulb units.
The display is full color, full lit from corner to corner. A lot of people have been worried about seeing dark sides and fading at the corners. I have not seen anything like this. The led bulb does a good job lighting up the entire screen. No worries here!
Another few pluses of the led's:
No rainbow effect. I rarely noticed it on my old set, but when I did it really bothered me.
No warm up time. About 5 seconds after hitting the power I have a full color, full lit picture. Not that the 20 or so second warm up time was all that bothering on my old unit, but its a nice change.

Connections -
Here is one of my three complaints on the unit.
The connections are plentiful enough for me since my receiver handles all of that any way. The problem is, they are on the right side of the tv. May not be a big deal for some, but I have my entire rack setup on the the left of the tv and I have to order a few new cables do to being just to short now.
The tv senses what connections have things connected to them and separates the osd list into whats plugged in and whats not so you don't have to scroll through all the inputs to get to the ones you want. The problem with this is, you have to have something plugged in and turned on (even if its in standby mode) in order to be able to select that input. You cant switch to an input that doesn't have anything plugged in to it. A better choice for fast scrolling of the inputs would be that of the toshiba lcds (and probably others, but toshiba is the only one I have experience with) where there is a list of inputs and you can simply press a number on the remote to select that input.

The Remote -
On to complaint number two, which coincidentally leads to complaint 3.
The remote is well laid out and easy to get used to. It has a backlight function for night viewing. It can be programmed to use with other devices. All the standards of a remote. Except it only works part time. Until I bring myself to buying a harmony remote ($$$), I have a remote for just about everything. And when using more than just the tv remote, the tv seems to forget how to communicate with its remote. When just flipping channels or using only the tv remote, it works fine 100%. Start messing with the receiver when I have the tv on and suddenly no tv remote. Use the dvd remote while the tv is on - no more tv remote. Play the Wii while the tv is on - no more tv remote. It seems that no matter what kind of remote it is, as long as its ir it will cause the tv to forget all about its remote. The only solution is to turn the tv off for a while or use the buttons on the tv.

The buttons on the tv -
On to the final complaint. The buttons on the tv are located on the bottom right side of the tv. Dismissing the fact that I have to walk up to the tv and move anything out of the way to get to the buttons, they are in just the right place that even with my long arms I still can't get a good view of the tv while I'm using them. I have to basically stretch my arms to the buttons while trying to stand in front of the tv to see the screen and guess at which buttons I'm hitting. It gets frustrating navigating through the menus only to find the menu I want and accidentally hit the cancel button instead of the accept button. Wouldn't be a big deal if the remote didn't stop working all the time!!




Overall opinions of the tv -

Picture: 9 out of 10. Stunning picture running 1080p, great color, great lighting. Downside is the viewing angles all dlp's suffer from.

Audio: 8 out of 10. I only ran the tv speakers for a minute, but they sounded good for tv speakers. Running the tv sound out of the tv to the receiver via composite rca's resulted in a very quite sound. Remedied by cranking the receiver volume or running the sound directly out of the cable/dish box for those with cable/dish.

Functionality: 9 out of 10. This score suffers due to the remote issues and bad placement of buttons. Although on a tv like this, I don't know where buttons could be better placed short of on the front with a flip down cover of sorts to hide them.

Overall: Overall I am very satisfied. After owning an older HD-ILA dlp set, a lcd set and a newer plasma set, I would rank this at the top of the list. Better in pretty much every aspect over my HD-ILA set. Makes the lcd look archaic. And rivals the plasma in producing great color without having to worry about burn in, not to mention the size/price ratio blows the plasma out of the water.

If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask. I will do my best to answer them and help anyone out!
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Originally Posted by Cloud
My last dlp set (hd-ila) had really deep and rich blacks, but had too warm of a look on bright colors and whites.
This is no big deal, especially since they've quit making them, so I shouldn't say anything. But I can't help it. I just hate seeing that.

Why do so many people think that JVC's HD-ILA, and Sony's SXRD tvs are DLPs? They ARE NOT DLP sets! Not even close to DLP! They are LCoS tvs (Liquid Crystal on Silicon). They were my choice in a tv. I hate plasmas because of reflective screen. LCD is ok, except when they go over 52" screen size, they become outrageously expensive. LCoS had better blacks and better pictures overall than DLP. DLPs have improved since they are using LED light source now, and got rid of the color wheel.

I'll probably go with DLP for next tv, since the LCoS tvs are no longer available.
Just trying to educate folks, on the technology. I had a loud argument with a salesman in Sears one night, because he called a Sony SXRD, a DLP. I let him and his manager know that he needed to learn what he was selling!
Samsung HL61A750 (LED DLP)            Onkyo TX-SR805
Oppo BDP-83 Blu ray                                  Polk Audio LSi9
Polk Audio LSiC                                  Sony SS-MB100H
JBL PSW1200 (Sub)                        ...
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They ARE NOT DLP sets! Not even close to DLP!
Sorry about confusing the technology names, I guess I was always under the impression they were dlp.
Regardless, I still prefer the color depth and light from the Samsung LED DLP over my old JVC HD-ILA. And I bought that set because I preferred it over every other DLP set I compared it to.
I really liked to the color in the plasma's as well, especially the dark and crisp blacks. Besides the outragious cost/size ratio of the bigger/nicer plasma sets, I was very turned off by the overly excessive heat the screens gave off.
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Don't worry about it. Like I said, I probably shouldn't have said anything. It's just one of those little things that bugs me. The Samsungs are nice. That's probably what I'll get, when I can. Plasmas have a good picture. I just can't stand the reflective screens. I'm so tired of seeing room lights, and even myself, in my crt's screen, and the plasmas are the same way. I hate it with a passion!

I want a minimum of 60" screen size. Wouldn't mind a 70" either. Here is an example of what I said about LCDs over 52", being outrageously expensive:
Samsung - 70" 1080p Flat-Panel LCD HDTV - LN-T7081F
I know you'll get two of them, right?
Samsung HL61A750 (LED DLP)            Onkyo TX-SR805
Oppo BDP-83 Blu ray                                  Polk Audio LSi9
Polk Audio LSiC                                  Sony SS-MB100H
JBL PSW1200 (Sub)                        ...
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Originally Posted by Ed Moxley
Here is an example of what I said about LCDs over 52", being outrageously expensive:
Samsung - 70" 1080p Flat-Panel LCD HDTV - LN-T7081F
I know you'll get two of them, right?

I love this review of it:
Customer Rating: 5 out of 5 5.0 5
Can't stop watching 06/13/2008
By JRu1977 from P Town, VA Read all my reviews Read all my reviews

Pros: Great price, good picture
Cons: None

"Bought this TV for the bathroom and I have no regrets. I stay in the tub so long watching that my skin wrinkles and my legs fall asleep. Wife thought I was crazy for buying this (she wanted a new Escalade) but she has come around. Thinking about getting another one for the garage so I can watch Dicovery Channel while I change my oil."
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Thanks for the review, Jeff. Do you hear any fan noise coming from the Samsung? I had a Mitsubishi DLP a few years ago and was really annoyed by how loud the fan, and especially, the color wheel were. I know the LED sets no longer use color wheels. Thank goodness! It sounded like a blender on my old set!
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Thanks for the review, Jeff. Do you hear any fan noise coming from the Samsung? I had a Mitsubishi DLP a few years ago and was really annoyed by how loud the fan, and especially, the color wheel were. I know the LED sets no longer use color wheels. Thank goodness! It sounded like a blender on my old set!


No fan noise at all. With the TV on and all other noise gone, I still can't hear the TV running at all.

And an update on the remote problem. A call to Samsung remedied this. All I needed to do was reset the remote, which was as hard as holdling down the power button on the remote for 30 seconds. Works like a charm now!
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Thanks for the review (and follow-ups).

Maybe I will reconsider getting this set at the model's year end or something, if the 58" plasmas don't look like they'll come down much in pricing.

BTW, have you noticed any geometry issues w/ it so far (due to some flexing in the screen and chassis?)? There were lots of talk about that over in AVS a couple months back when I was all ready to take the plunge. That was partly why I decided to hold off.

_Man_

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BTW, have you noticed any geometry issues w/ it so far (due to some flexing in the screen and chassis?)? There were lots of talk about that over in AVS a couple months back when I was all ready to take the plunge. That was partly why I decided to hold off.

_Man_

I have noticed none at all. The 61" model seems to be free of that problem, but the larger models are plagued with it. Thats one of the reasons I didn't go with Samsung's larger 7 series dlp, or any larger dlp for that matter. The 73" Mitsu at best buy had a sagging screen when I was buying my tv, which made me glad I didn't go with that one. So far so good on the 61" though!
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Great review, Jeff! Thanks for taking the time to post that.

I currently own a JVC Dila 52". It's in our bedroom, and my viewing distance is right about 9 feet. It looks good in there, but I'm tired of changing bulbs EVERY year, and I'm enamored with the 61" Sammy you reviewed. My plan is to bequeath the JVC to my oldest daughter and move on up to this set.

My viewing habits are:

--45% gaming (360, PS3 soon)
--35% DVD
--20% HD DirectTv

I guess my only concern is this beastie might be too big for my distance! LOL How's it look at 9 feet? Hard to tell Best Buy, especially when it's surrounded by tv's with 'hotter' pictures. I don't want a rampant case of silk screen or anything like that, though I love a big picture.

What I love about this 61" is:

--LED light source...no lamps to buy!
--Way less heat going into the room.
--No fan noise
--Bigger is always better? (concern about silk screen...)
--No LCD issues with fast-moving baseballs/objects, judder, etc.
--Better contrast than my JVC, better blacks.
--Power efficient, and fast turn on.

Whacha think? Or should I just go for a 52" LCD flat? Can't go plasma due to screen reflections, concerns of burn in (I know it's supposed to be better), screen/brightness fading, the usual plasma concerns (if I'm out of touch, plasma-lovers, then please enlighten me! I'll listen).

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Originally Posted by Dan Keliikoa
My viewing habits are:

--45% gaming (360, PS3 soon)
--35% DVD
--20% HD DirectTv


I use mine for about:
20% Blu-Ray/HD-DVD viewing
40% SD-DVD viewing
35% gaming (mostly PS3/360/Wii, but older systems as well)
5% TV viewing in HD

The larger screen size has a tendency to bring out any defects in lower quality stuff, but all the current gen gaming systems, Blu-Rays, HD-DVDs, and HD TV stations look amazing on it. A good upconverting DVD player makes DVDs look good on it as well.


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I guess my only concern is this beastie might be too big for my distance! LOL How's it look at 9 feet?I don't want a rampant case of silk screen or anything like that, though I love a big picture.

My viewing distance is right about 10ft and I don't notice any silk screening. The only time I can really notice anything like that is within arms reach of the TV. At 10ft, pretty much any viewing angle short of laying on the floor or standing on a ladder produces a perfect picture.


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Originally Posted by Dan Keliikoa
Whacha think? Or should I just go for a 52" LCD flat?

I originally was thinking of a plasma or lcd for size reasons. I quickly dismissed the lcd's as I was very un-pleased with the picture on them. Side by side, the lcd's seemed to lack in both color and clarity compared to the plasma's. I also started noticing a sort of matte look to the lcd's the longer I watched them. From that point, I started comparing the DLP sets to the plasma's. I was turned off by many things on the plasma's, but my main concern was picture quality. The 7 series LED DLP sets that samsung makes, along with a high end mitsu model that I can't remember, where the ones I really liked. After comparing the set I bought to a comparable size plasma, I was convinced that the DLP was the way to go.

On a side note, I lost about 6" of depth going DLP versus Plasma but the comparable size plasma's were double the weight of the DLP. I also noticed a lot of heat coming off the screens of the plasma. On my current LED DLP unit, I have roughly half the amount of heat coming from the TV as I do from the receiver. My opinion on what to get would look like this: 1st choice - LED DLP, 2nd choice - A high end Mitsubishi bulb type DLP (I was really impressed with there high end models), 3rd choice - Plasma, 4th choice - LCD.

Hope that helps!
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Nice reply, Cloud. I think we're on the same page here. Plasmas are REALLY nice...but the two negatives for them are pretty big for my situation:

--They DO generate enough heat that it would cause me problems in my small bedroom, especially in Memphis summers (would be nice in the winter though LOL).

--Screen reflectivity would be an issue. I've dealt with this before on a MITS RPTV in a fairly controlled (but not perfect or ideal) 'theater' room I had at another house, and it was kind of annoying. My lighting control is twice as bad here, even for evening viewing.

The one other thing is I like buying tv's from Best Buy, but the plasmas they have only seem to come in 50" or 58"...no 52" which would be an exact screen-size replacement for my JVC, and I wouldn't want to go sub-50".

Obviously, 58"s are too expensive and probably too big for a direct view display in that room. I can 'get away' with a 61" RPTV because they don't 'pop' as much with a retina-searing experience.

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I just bought this same tv. I haven't even messed with it yet, but the review just makes me feel even better about my decision. My question to you though is what settings you have. I'm going to go home and calibrate via DVE. Just wondering if you have done the same? I found this review on amazon as well...
Suggested Picture settings

Picture mode: Standard
Usage: What I like for normal Cable/HD viewing. Provides extra "pop", and 3D-ish look but clearly over saturated.

Contrast 97
Brightness 48
Sharp 0
Color 49
Tint 46/54

Detailed Settings
Black Adj off
Dyn Contrast Low (Adds the "pop" many people are looking for)
LED Control Auto (Sometimes turn down to medium at night)
Gamma 0
White Bal -4
Flesh Tone -3
Edge Ehancement off
xvYCC off

Picture Options
Color Tone Normal
Size Just Scan
Digital NR Auto
DNIe Off
HDMI Black Lvl Normal * See notes below
Film Mode Auto
Blue Only Mode off
Color Gamut sRGB

Picture mode Movie
Usage: Movies, Blu Ray playback. Generally, the most accurate mode

Contrast 100
Brightness 47
Sharp 0
Color 49
Tint 50/50

Detailed Settings
Black Adj off
Dyn Contrast off
LED Control Medium
Gamma -3
White Bal 0
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Ehancement off
xvYCC off

Picture Options
Color Tone Warm 2
Size Just Scan
Digital NR Auto
DNIe off
HDMI Black Lvl Normal * See notes below
Film Mode Auto
Blue Only Mode off
Color Gamut sRGB

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Jeff,

Wish I would have known about that remote issue.. I was going to take a mint condition floor model HL67A750 at Circuit City for $1849 but the remote would not work the set for some odd reason. I opted for the new one in the box for 2099.

I love both the HL61A750 and the 67A750. I decided to go for the 67 because I have the room for it and have ZERRO regrets going with Sammy Phlatlight DLP. I hope DLP sticks around because with the inception of Phlatlight and with better optics these sets can get even thinner and honestly they can KILL in the marketplace.
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...having some issues getting my tv to where I want it. I do wonder though, is there a break-in time on this tv? It seems to be getting more detailed the longer I have it on. I still think it could be better though.

Samsung HL61A750
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Chris,

No break in that I am aware of, LED's emit the same output from the day they are made to the day they die, they don't dim over time and they don't get brighter.

I will get my settings to you tomorrow evening.
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Chris,

There was no break-in time requirement for my 67-inch Samsung, either. I can look up my settings tonight, but I do know I used Movie mode as my starting point for calibrations of all sources -- HDTV via Comcast cable, Sony S350 BluRay player and Panasonic RP-91 DVD player. I initially had the CATV and Panny connected to a component video input, but now have everything going into a single HDMI input since upgrading my receiver to one with HDMI switching support.
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thanks, i also have everything going through single hdmi connections. The picture seems very dull and drab. For HDtv...I was expecting to be amazed, but it just seems mushy. My older 27"JVC tube tv made HD from dish look awsome...but the picture on this tv makes me feel like im looking at my old JVC from 1 foot away where you can see every imperfection in the screen

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Have you tried connecting your HD source directly to the TV instead of passing it through your receiver to see if that may be causing some issues? My Pioneer Elite receiver does not seem to affect the image quality of HD sources being passed through at all -- the picture quality is identical whether I run my HD cable box through my receiver or directly to the TV, and I am doing a component video to HDMI conversion in the receiver (the cable box is not HDMI). The Pioneer does not attempt to upconvert 1080i signals to 1080p, though. I do not know how your Denon handles this.
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Everything I've seen so far says that my receiver will upconvert everything via HDMI. The oppo player is supposed to do the same, but all my dvd's keep the 480 light lit.

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There's "major" overhaul for my family room going on, electronic-wise.

Vann's delivering a HL61A750 Monday. It replaces a Toshiba 57H81 CRT RP set that went dark three weeks ago after 7 years. That the biggest change.

Vann has a bundle of the Samsung with a Logitech Harmony 670 remote, so I'm getting that, as well. Wife is not looking forward to the idea of another remote to get familar with, but we'll see.

Picked up a Sony S350 BluRay at Kmart on Thanksgiving to get into HiDef discs.

Have gotten a Dish upgrade to ViP722 DVR to replace a 821(?) HD sat box back in Sept.

My most dated piece of gear will be the receiver; a Kenwood VR-307 - no HDMI, DD5.1 with one Toslink optic and 2 coax inputs.

For the first time, buying HDMI cables. My order from Blue Jeans will likely arrive today. No point of HDMI with the older tv and receiver. And a question about HDMI and the Samsung - any one ever compare picture quality from a ViP722 to the Samsung via component cable vs. HDMI? For the Sony BluRay connection its a no-brainer; the S350 only does 1080p over HDMI. The ViP722 connection isn't as clear-cut, as I could do either.
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Rick,

I just did the same thing!

I went from a RCA 61" 3CRT RPTV to the HL67A, went from a Panny CV51 DVD to a Samsung BD-1500, upgraded the receiver from my Onk 787 to an Onk 806.

Not all I need to do is change out my Pronto Pro for a new one

AV gear is a lot like Lays, can't do just one!

Any source that does 1080P output it's going to look fantastic, it's not as clear cut when you get into upconversion, some do it better than others.

I haven't got my 806 receiver yet it's scheduled for delivery monday. I will be curious to see how it handles upscale of DVD's via the Farojda DCdi vs. the upscaling the blue ray player does when it's direct into the TV.
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Rick,

I've been through a similar upgrade path this fall. My replacements were:
  • Samsung HL67A750 replaced a Toshiba 56H80 1080i RPTV CRT
  • Added a Sony BDP-S350 BluRay player
  • Pioneer Elite 94-TXH receiver replaced a Pioneer Elite 47-TX for lossless audio and HDMI support
  • Harmony SST-880 remote replaced a Harmony SST-659 which died
While I do not have DirecTV, I have not bothered to change out my HD cable box from Comcast. The current one is component video, but since the source will be 1080i whether it's component video or HDMI, I did not see the point (other than simplified cabling). I initially had the component video running directly to the Samsung TV, but after changing out the receiver I now run component video to the Elite receiver and HDMI from the receiver to the TV. I do not see any difference in picture quality -- the Elite does not upconvert 1080i signals, but just passes the signal through the HDMI monitor out.

As for the remote, I do not know what you currently use, but the Harmony remotes are as "family-friendly" as any universal remote I've used. Once setup, they are very easy for anyone to pick up and use. My parents stay with us when they are in town, and are completely clueless when it comes to home theater or electronics. My dad was able to pick up the remote and turn on my system to watch TV with absolutely no instructions from me (I was not even home that first time he turned it on).
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Thanks for the review (and follow-ups).

Maybe I will reconsider getting this set at the model's year end or something, if the 58" plasmas don't look like they'll come down much in pricing.


Ok. I finally took the plunge on this DLP over the weekend for $1300 shipped from Crutchfield (plus the now expired $200 NFLShop rebate) -- should probably arrive w/in a week. Didn't wanna keep hijacking the other current thread for the 67" version, so figured I'd come back to this old one instead.

For those interested in one of these Samsung DLPs (and are also considering a plasma), you might also find the more detailed talk about power consumption of interest. For my situation, it apparently does make a significant diff, but YMMV of course.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ml#post3498772



But to follow up from my post over there about shopping for a stand now...

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ml#post3501879

Just went looking at that stand in J&R, and it's probably not gonna cut it. I like the *very* rounded corners for child-safety, but since the top shelf isn't much larger than the RPTV's pedestal footprint (w/ only a few inches to spare at the widest points and practically nothing extra for depth), I'm not sure it'd work w/ those very rounded corners. Also, it does *look* flimsier than other stands I was considering.



Saw this one that I was considering:

Bell'O AVS-4601HG High gloss audio/video stand for TVs up to 52" at Crutchfield.com

Looks nice, but not too sure it's our style, and I'd prefer to spend less unless I'm reasonably sure it'll suit our next TV after this also, which this one probably won't for a big heftier plasma or similar (w/ its 15" depth and 100lb capacity for the top shelf). Of course, this one is probably also more reuseable than most as a regular shelf unit later on.



Also saw this one that kinda grew on me (and for a bit less $):

Amazon.com: Bell'O PVS-4218HG Flat Panel Audio Video System (Gloss Black): Electronics

There would be ~2" overhang on each side (in the front), which is not bad at all, especially considering the style/design. Also, I would probably be able to easily add some support for the frame on either side, if needed (as that is one concern w/ this TV). Top shelf is 16" deep w/ 125lb capacity (according to J&R's listing).

My main concern w/ this one would be child-safety w/ the corners sticking out like that for the middle shelf, which comes out ~4" further than the top shelf -- corners in top shelf would be covered by the RPTV. Of course, I should probably just put some barriers around the whole thing anyway until our 2-yo is old enough.



I also noticed this very modestly priced stand from Best Buy's site -- and it comes w/ free shipping:

Init® - TV Stand for Most Flat-Panel Televisions Up to 50" - Black - NT-C1140

This one claims to support upto a 300lb TV, which would probably be more "future-proof" if/when I want/need to replace the RPTV some years down the road. Hopefully, this RPTV will last me at least 7 years though, if not much more.



So what are y'all using for a stand w/ this set?


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Re: Samsung HL61A750 Review

I bought a Slam Brands stand for my 67-inch set from Circuit City. Unfortunately, CC's website is no longer operational, so I cannot provide a link for the exact model. Here are a few other Slam Brand models.
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Re: Samsung HL61A750 Review

Thanks for the suggestion, Scott.

I ended up going for the Bell'Ogetti AVS-4218HG locally at J&R for $220+tax -- and picked it up w/ our "new" minivan just in time for the TV delivery. Nice looking stand and matches the 61" very well me thinks -- and it's definitely a dust magnet much like the TV's bezel too. One caution though for anyone considering this stand (or something similar w/ glass shelves): definitely be careful *not* to tighten the glass shelves into the frame arms too much. The instructions point this out, but I still was not careful enough and ended up pulling out one of the glued-on(?) metal feet from the middle glass shelf. It's probalby not a big deal since the shelf won't move easily, but still a bit annoying (and I'll probably see about regluing it at some point just to be safe).

RE: the TV itself, the bezel is definitely very flimsy (and the overall frame is not far behind). Like many others, I'm seeing the bit of pincushion-like geometry distortion, particularly when viewing 4x3 content or something w/ straight verticals around those areas -- it's generally not noticeable at all otherwise. It's not exactly a deal-breaker, but still slightly disappointing. There also appears to be a slight bit of picture tilt, which was also reported over on AVS, but this is actually hardly noticeable at all even w/ 2.35:1 content (and I'm not too sure it's all a matter of actual picture tilt, instead of partially a matter of the flimsy bezel itself possibly being slighted tilted).

Still playing w/ the settings to see about yielding better black levels (for near-dark-room viewing). Also, haven't been able to get reception to our local PBS digital OTA station yet, which was one of many reasons to upgrade, though we now can easily receive all the other regular digital OTA stations (and a bit more) -- hopefully, reception stays good when the leaves come out during the warmer seasons.

On the whole, otherwise, this seems to be an excellent set for the bargain price I paid -- $1300 shipped white-glove style minus the $200 NFLShop rebate although I'm not sure yet how to get the UPC label off the box in a way that satisfies the rebate requirement since the darned shipping company stuck a big shipping sticker over the UPC label.

And oh, the kids, especially our 2-yo toddler, are loving the TV box too as we decided to cut it up for them to play house while it still holds up.

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Re: Samsung HL61A750 Review

BTW, I briefly checked the set w/ my KAW meter, and the power consumption seems to depend mainly on the LED Control (ie. brightness) setting. At the "Min" setting, which is good for near-dark-room viewing, I measured just 80W of power use. So far, I have it set to "Med" for regular lighting situations (and "Min" for "serious" nighttime viewing). I didn't measure the "Med" setting, but I'm guessing it probably runs at ~120W since "Max" runs ~170W.

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