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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

"demo" or not, no one can convince me that a core DD is on par with a lossless audio track after the hours and hours I've spent comparing such tracks on the many other BD titles in my library.

We waiting on tranformers. I can wait on this one too.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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"demo" or not, no one can convince me that a core DD is on par with a lossless audio track after the hours and hours I've spent comparing such tracks on the many other BD titles in my library.

We waiting on tranformers. I can wait on this one too.

Oh god yeah absolutely, I just thought it was fantastic.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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"demo" or not, no one can convince me that a core DD is on par with a lossless audio track
I don't see anyone trying to.

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

I have not seen any professional reviews yet. It is funny how Iron Man comes out in three weeks and at least four sites I have seen have the review up already. SR comes out next week and nothing. I think Warner is laying low because the high def communinty is really going to let them have it with the lack of lossless audio. I look forward to renting SR, but will not purchase it unless they come out with a lossless audio copy in the future.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

Our views of "professional" may differ, but DVD Beaver posted its review of the "Speed Racer" Blu-ray yesterday. Very positive review, even without a TrueHD soundtrack. Otherwise, I agree with you - the collective silence on this title is somewhat surprising.

 

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

I don't think it's a conspiracy. Fox probably wants to get the ball rolling on promo for the Iron Man DVD and Blu-ray now since it was a huge hit and Warners knows that Speed Racer isn't going to sell that many copies no matter how early they get the disc out there for review.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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Fox probably wants to get the ball rolling on promo for the Iron Man DVD and Blu-ray now since it was a huge hit
I think you mean "Paramount". Fox had a summer without hits.

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I think you mean "Paramount". Fox had a summer without hits.

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You are correct.

What do you mean that Fox didn't have any hits this summer? I guess you didn't see the box office returns for The X-Files, The Rocker, Mirrors, Babylon A.D. and Space Chimps.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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What do you mean that Fox didn't have any hits this summer? I guess you didn't see the box office returns for The X-Files, The Rocker, Mirrors, Babylon A.D. and Space Chimps.
In relation to cost, most of those did better than Speed Racer.

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

True, but Speed Racer was a textbook example of Warner's inability to market a family-oriented film without a built-in audience. Of course, Fox can't market family films that well, either.

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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In relation to cost, most of those did better than Speed Racer.

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Unless it's a marathon, not a sprint Unlike those films, SR is a gem, and will have a life after the theatrical release.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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Unlike those films, SR is a gem, and will have a life after the theatrical release.
It was a facetious exchange, Chuck. I have no opinion on (and no interest in) Speed Racer, with or without lossless audio.

I don't necessarily agree, though, that the second X-Files film will have no life on home video. I could see it doing quite well among fans who didn't want to bother seeing it in the theater. (I did and was one of the viewers who liked it.)

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Both X-Files and Speed Racer will be on my shelf (I loved Speed Racer and my wife is a huge X-Files fan). However, I recognize the minority position of my opinion for each of these.

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

Looks like I might make SR a purchase afterall after reading the surprisingly positive review over at the Bits. I don't own a Dolby TrueHD & DTS HD Master Audio reciever yet so the lossy 5.1 track doesn't concern me...at the moment.

Hope to get one for Christmas so i'll cross that lossless bridge when I come to it. Right now i'm just glad that the image is better than we expected.

EDIT: To clarify my above statement because I know it sounds bad, the lossless track DOES indeed concern me, it should have one as standard issue on BD and it truly blows that it doesn't, I was merely stating that I can't hear it right now, that's all.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

Hated it! Sorry guys but I thought it was a garish, digital effects stuffed disaster. It was an assault on the senses...but not in a good way. ..it gave me a headache it was so bad.

By far the bros.worst film. I almost bought it blind, but rented the bluray instead. Saved myself $30!

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Btw, the bluray looked fantastic but sounded weak to me.
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speed racer blu eray

just wondering if any of you are going to buy speed racer on blu ray , because of no loseless audio? for me absolutely not , hopefully warner will see that the blu ray owners want everything that our new format offers , which includes yes , loseless audio. Does anyone know why they did this ? they used a 25g instead of 50 , why ?
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

Netfilx mailed out my copy yesterday so it'll be here today, looking forward to watching it as I never saw it in the theater.

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

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I have not seen any professional reviews yet. It is funny how Iron Man comes out in three weeks and at least four sites I have seen have the review up already. SR comes out next week and nothing. I think Warner is laying low because the high def communinty is really going to let them have it with the lack of lossless audio. I look forward to renting SR, but will not purchase it unless they come out with a lossless audio copy in the future.
Didn't this movie bomb at the theaters? I would suspect that if Warner's is "laying low" on this release, it's because they expect a one, two punch in the gut on this one.
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just wondering if any of you are going to buy speed racer on blu ray , because of no loseless audio? for me absolutely not , hopefully warner will see that the blu ray owners want everything that our new format offers , which includes yes , loseless audio. Does anyone know why they did this ? they used a 25g instead of 50 , why ?

I won't be buying this version of the BD, specifically because of the lack of lossless audio. There is really no excuse (at least none that I would consider valid). I'll wait for the inevitable "collector's edition," complete with what I am sure will be advertised as "a new lossless audio-track, supervised by the directors!" We've seen this song and dance before, with DVD, and I for one won't be fooled this time around.
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I'll wait for the inevitable "collector's edition,"...
Never say never but the box office failure of the movie and the studio not taking enough effort to have loseless audio on the release makes a re-release seem to be very low on the list of WB's priorities.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

Of course, it all depends on what sales are like on DVD and the initial BD release. This is the kind of movie that in the 80s would have gone gangbusters on VHS after tanking @ the box office. The same thing could happen on DVD/BD. Did I mention that Warner did a lousy job of marketing this?

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Never say never but the box office failure of the movie and the studio not taking enough effort to have loseless audio on the release makes a re-release seem to be very low on the list of WB's priorities.

That's also part of my point, albeit unsaid. If no "collector's edition" materializes, then I simply won't have ANY copy of the film. The lack of lossless audio on this type of movie specifically -- with its dismal box-office performance, eye-popping visuals and ear-thumping sound effects -- should be banking on making up any lost revenue solely through a BD release showcasing the film as demo material.

Truly a case of missed opportunity, in my opinion.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

i guess there isn't going to be a HTF review of the br?
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Never say never but the box office failure of the movie and the studio not taking enough effort to have loseless audio on the release makes a re-release seem to be very low on the list of WB's priorities.

what doesn't make sense to me is that since it's not any harder to just release with lossless, why the issue needs to be here at all... regardless of the popularity of the film.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

I watched about 30 minutes of the BD, and I have to agree with TDB's review of the video. It's off the charts good. It cheats a bit by the nature of the film (lots of greenscreen and shiny CG and loads of color), but it pops in some amazing ways.

As video goes, it's demo material alongside the Pixar releases.
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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

I'm half way though and will finish the rest tomorrow. The video is 5/5, the audio 2/5. Compared to a lossless track; it's flat, weak, and lifeless, other then some low bass moments. I'd love to own this but with such a crappy audio track, no way.

Way to screw up a reference Blu-ray disc Warner!

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

I do hope that those who aren't willing to buy it because of the lossy audio will at least consider renting it. I don't know how much weight rental figures have in determining the timing of a double-dip, since that's all we've got to hope for at this point, but those of us who love the movie would thank you for it.

 

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Re: Speed Racer - Blu Ray - Sept 2008

I'm at least a couple of years away from lossless audio for BDs (no HDMI receiver for my PS3 yet) and I'm NOT waiting that long to acquire this (I'll keep my views on the "dramatic" differences between lossless and lossy for a more appropriate thread).

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