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No, it makes no sense because of what we know about the race doesn't jive with the reveal.
Maybe that's the point? I say again, it's too early to tell so how about we just wait and see?
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I'm actually surprised no one's commented about this yet.

So, Arlid, what did you think? While I will concede a little in that it's a somewhat interesting storyline, I still think it smacks of reusing the familiar - ala Darth Vader created C-3PO; something that didn't necessarily have to be.

Still too many holes if you think about it - they are too busy trying to overcome the degradation issue to build ships, so they hole up on an inhospitable planet. Fine. So, why do they need to activate the device 'now' when they haven't reached their goal - the Wraith obviously aren't bothering them yet, and with the stargate go 'boom' problem, they'd just be cutting down the availablity of their test subjects, so that's not really a good plan. Better would be if they had just found the solution they needed, and now they want to settle and expand.
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The asguard are the beings inside the halo suits. Didn't see that one coming.

I was going to say that it'd be interesting having the asguard in the mix now I just remembered that this show is coming to an end so that's that.

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well, i hate how they keep bringing the same elements like replicants, asgard back to atlantis. let's hope stargate universe keeps everything fresh!

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I never liked the Asguard being killed off in the first place. If you ever think about it, here we have races that have been around for eons, and in the short blink of a human lifetime -- or a decade, really -- many are gone. Goa'uld. Replicators. Ori. Asguard. The Tauri Rule!

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no thoughts on the most recent ep? people still trying to catchup? there's but a handful of episodes left and we're still churning out crap like this? *sigh* =P

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I dunno - it was a 'meh' episode.

In a way, I guess I wish they'd left well enough alone and not bring Carson back. I remember back in season 1 when I loved the character and was elated when he was promoted to main cast. But ever since 'Sunday', I guess I feel that the writers 'cheated' in order to bring him back.

Otherwise, it was a pretty uneventful episode.

And I'm really not looking forward to the rehashed 'let's put the heroes on trial' episode this week.
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well episode 19 just aired (Vegas). this is the next to the FINAL episode of the series and they give us THIS!?!!?!?

i've also seen 20 but i won't give away the ending . it's pretty decent. here are my thoughts on it

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both 19 and 20 reference a time paradox where alternate dimension mcckays meet to discuss this very issue. i believe this is a reference to the upcoming direct to DVD/Blu-Ray video movie that is in production that's about traveling to alt. dimensions and Mcckey from Vegas is going to pass into to Mcckay in our dimension. that is why 19 and 20 have been written as a bridge and finale. if they do this i'll be pissed cause we don't see what happens after 20. just in between.

furthermore, out of all cast members, an extra that's only been on/off from the last few seasons, that chic that's getting together with ronin is in the final shot but zelenkda isn't? lol. and have they completely dropped the ford storyline? i would have loved it if ford just keeps coming back.

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I thought the "Vegas" episode was fantastic. It was waaaay different than what they normally do. Was this episode written and directed by the same people because it had a very different vibe to it.

Oh, and two thumbs up for using Johnny Cash's song in the episode.

"A human being is part of the whole called by us the Universe. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest --a kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for...

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I agree with Shawn, this was an excellent episode, well written and directed. I am still at a loss as to why this series is ending especially when they can do work like this.

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Cool episode, although it felt like CSI: Atlantis. Too bad there's only one episode left. I really enjoy this show and have grown fond of many of the characters.
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I thought that "Vegas" was a terrifically refreshing change of pace episode that showed how very easily John Shepperd could have turned out so differently!
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well episode 19 just aired (Vegas). this is the next to the FINAL episode of the series and they give us THIS!?!!?!?

i've also seen 20 but i won't give away the ending . it's pretty decent. here are my thoughts on it

Warning Spoiler! Click to show
both 19 and 20 reference a time paradox where alternate dimension mcckays meet to discuss this very issue. i believe this is a reference to the upcoming direct to DVD/Blu-Ray video movie that is in production that's about traveling to alt. dimensions and Mcckey from Vegas is going to pass into to Mcckay in our dimension. that is why 19 and 20 have been written as a bridge and finale. if they do this i'll be pissed cause we don't see what happens after 20. just in between.

furthermore, out of all cast members, an extra that's only been on/off from the last few seasons, that chic that's getting together with ronin is in the final shot but zelenkda isn't? lol. and have they completely dropped the ford storyline? i would have loved it if ford just keeps coming back.
I'd be interested to see if the producers decide to bring back Ford for the new direct-to-video movies!
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i doubt it.

i think most of his stuff was season1 or 2. cant remember now, 2-5 has been very even in tone from season to season depending on which leader atlantis has, it's like a revolving door. SG-1 suffered similar things with daniel jackson's death and replacement character for 1 season. unfortunately things never became the same after that.

so all in all, i guess it's good they decided to end this season because to go on would mean some sort of decline in quality given the uneven tone.

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I thought the episode was good from the perspective that it was a change of pace "what if" story, but given that it's the next to the last of series, it was okay - I wish it'd been moved up to have a better build up to the finale.

I'll miss the idea behind Atlantis - hopefully, they'll be able to make several 'direct to DVD' movies, like SG1. I'm certainly not enthused with idea of Universe.
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I saw the final ep last night -- and thought they did a terrific job considering the time constraints. Let's face it: This needed to be a two hour finale and seemed to be scripted as such. It's really *astonishing* to me that they were able to cram so much plot into 45 minutes. But the darn thing actually worked! I do wonder, though, if the DVD will contain an expanded version of the ep in order to "flesh out" a few things.

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I'll miss the idea behind Atlantis - hopefully, they'll be able to make several 'direct to DVD' movies, like SG1. I'm certainly not enthused with idea of Universe.

They've already started pre-production on both a new Stargate: SG-1 and Stargate: Atlantis movie.

The two movies will be filmed at the same time during the Summer such that the casts and the sets for both shows can be easily interchanged. Presumably the cast of SG1 will have an extended cameo in the Atlantis movie and vice-versa.

Oh, and Richard Dean Anderson will play a prominent role in the new SG1 movie.

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I loved the SG:A finale so much more than I did the SG:1 one.

The final shot of them looking out over the Golden Gate Bridge had a very "Trek" feel to it.
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Overall, a good finale - I was expecting a cliffhanger. But it really does leave alot open - I assume that Earth is effectively "done" with the Pegasus galaxy. And if those on Atlantis thought the IOA's involvement was intrusive before, it will be incredibly overbearing now, as the IOA will probably open shop there. Plus, I would figure that Daniel would visit a whole lot more too.

And I love how they leave the Todd storyline - ala Sopranos. I figure he's dead until they decide that he's not.

The one problem I had was with the instant solution - wormhole drive. I wish the writers would have put in the forethought to introduce the idea several episodes ago, so it wouldn't look like the 'quick fix' that it certainly was.

It'll be interesting to see where the Atlantis movie goes, given this finale.
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ok, now that ya'll have seen it. what i put into the spoiler from a few weeks ago is this:

do u think the SGA film will be about the 2 mcckays from teh vegas timeline and the 'real' timeline talking to one another. because both ep19&20 reference this incident, but we never GOT to see it, makes me think that that is what the movie is going to be about. any1 else?

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do u think the SGA film will be about the 2 mcckays from teh vegas timeline and the 'real' timeline talking to one another. because both ep19&20 reference this incident, but we never GOT to see it, makes me think that that is what the movie is going to be about. any1 else?
Nah. The alternate McKay probably met another alternate McKay, not anyone from "our" universe.
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ok, now that ya'll have seen it. what i put into the spoiler from a few weeks ago is this:

do u think the SGA film will be about the 2 mcckays from teh vegas timeline and the 'real' timeline talking to one another. because both ep19&20 reference this incident, but we never GOT to see it, makes me think that that is what the movie is going to be about. any1 else?

I think it's possible that you could be on to something here. I don't think the SGA movie will be based entirely on that incident, but I do think that it could be at least a part of the new SGA movie. (Perhaps via a flashback.)

Based on what was revealed in ep 19 I agree that there is a high probability that the "alternate timeline Mckay" met the SGA team depicted as the one in "our" timeline. I'm basing this on his description of the Sheppard he met in the other timeline. Of course, it's also possible that that was an entirely different SGA team. It has already been established that there are infinite parallel worlds out there. That's a lot!! However, up to this point the only other "parallel world Sheppard" that we've met that was a leader of a SGA team was described as a MENSA member; and I didn't get the impression that that was the one the McKay of ep 19 met.

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Finally got a chance to watch the last 2 episodes (19 and 20) and I was impressed. 19 definately was going for that CSI vibe and the cool thing about it (besides Sheppard dying to save Earth) was that it actually had something to do with the series finale.

And I agree, the series finale actually had a lot of substance and was satisfying overall.

A few observations: Ronin dying, though quick, was a heartfelt moment. But they had to cheapen the moment by having the Wraith revive him.

The battle between Earth's defenses against the Wraith was missing something. It seemed to lack importance. I understand that it's hard to get certain actors but not one general or high ranking official was present to lead the SGC? No knock against Carter but it just didn't feel "real" enough. I can't blame the show though. Budget and actor's schedules play a big part on what happens and who shows up onscreen so overall, they did a great job with what they had.

Bring on the movies. Having both the SG-1 and SGA casts in the same movies is going to be very cool.

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September 30, 2008: An AU Season 6! Josephmallozzi’s Weblog - Joseph Mallozzi wrote down a breakdown of season 6 on his blog with pretty clear hints of what the first SGA movie will be about.


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The plan was to bring the city of Atlantis (which was originally on Earth millions of years ago) full circle for the show’s 100th episode. “It was also intended to be the launching point for a very interesting early Season Six scenario: With Atlantis back on Earth, why the hell would the I.O.A. ever let it go?” Mallozzi revealed yesterday. “And if it remained, which, by all indications seemed likely, what would become of its occupants, especially Ronon and Teyla? Also, with a permanent station in the Milky Way, wouldn‘t Atlantis, logically, cease to be a launch point for gate travel and, instead, become a research center for Ancient technology?”

This idea will instead serve as the set-up for the Atlantis movie, currently being scripted by Mallozzi and Paul Mullie.
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Also, with a permanent station in the Milky Way, wouldn‘t Atlantis, logically, cease to be a launch point for gate travel and, instead, become a research center for Ancient technology?”

One quibble with Mallozzi's Weblog:


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As stated in the episode, the Pegasus gate overrides Earth's. Couple that with the Asgard being gone, and no longer offering the SGC their support, it would seem just as likely that the IOA would take advantage of the situation and put themselves in control of gate travel.

Now, I'm sure between Carter and McKay they could use the same 'bypass' they came up with for Midway to keep the SGC's gate active, but I think if the movie's going to deal with the IOA, this would be a part they should show.
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i have a feeling that thingamabob that they used to jump atlantis right to Earth will also be used on SGU


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One quibble with Mallozzi's Weblog:


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As stated in the episode, the Pegasus gate overrides Earth's. Couple that with the Asgard being gone, and no longer offering the SGC their support, it would seem just as likely that the IOA would take advantage of the situation and put themselves in control of gate travel.

Now, I'm sure between Carter and McKay they could use the same 'bypass' they came up with for Midway to keep the SGC's gate active, but I think if the movie's going to deal with the IOA, this would be a part they should show.

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The two movies will be filmed at the same time during the Summer such that the casts and the sets for both shows can be easily interchanged. Presumably the cast of SG1 will have an extended cameo in the Atlantis movie and vice-versa.

Stargate Atlantis has the upper edge, in my opinion, in terms of the characterization and story-telling. The universal villain (The Wraith) are far more challenging and interesting than the original adversaries in SG-1. The Wraith really get the imagination going; and they are a bit like science-fi vampires. The back-history of Atlantis, regarding the Ancients is extremely imaginative. The show can hold it's own without the cast of SG-1. So I don't necessarily like it when the two shows get mixed together. I enjoy Stargate Atlantis far more than SG-1. The two shows should be treated as two separate series. But I understand that comingling the two shows is showing off the Stargate Universe. So be it!
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Guess it just goes to show everyone has different tastes. See I find the Wraith (and Replicators) boring and overused. Kinda like how Star Trek overused the Borg. I find the different cultures SG1 encountered, (how they had ties to similar cultures on Earth), much more interesting. And I guess because of their diverse characterization, I thought most of the Goa'uld were interesting too.
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I think it is more a matter of how villians are used, not how much. The Jem'Hadar and Founders (Dominion) were used quite a bit on DS9, and it was compelling.

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...See I find the Wraith (and Replicators) boring and overused....
I don't think any villain deserves more than 1 1/2 seasons, maybe two.
I also don't agree with the concept that each antagonist has to exceed the previous one. Science Fiction offers a limitless supply of variety in enemies. If you've noticed, SciFi producers seem to avoid SciFi writers. (or even readers)

Finally, I just don't like Vampires, even "Vampires In Space".
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