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Originally Posted by Frank M
Why do they mix films from two different directors in one big box set instead of releasing two separate box sets for Borzage and Murnau ?
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Charles Hoyt
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
Maybe after this box comes out they will put out individual sets for the average DVD buyer.
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"I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me."
My 25 most wanted DVDs: Chilly Scenes Of Winter (1979); The Dead (1987); The African Queen (1951); Johnny Guitar (1954); The Sterile Cuckoo (1969); The Friends Of Eddie Coyle (1973); The Rain People (196...
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Originally Posted by ted:r
If one wishes to boycott this Box simply because of price and because they think that Fox will price future offering cheaper, I would venture to say they will be sorely disappointed.
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
I'm not boycotting out of any moral outrage; like most people, I have a limited income and dropping $170 on this DVD boxed set isn't worth it. I love film, I'm a fan of Murnau and Borzage, but I've got copies of some of these films already and others I can rent. I could justify buying the Ford set when it was available on B&N for $90, but Fox has overpriced this set, in my opinion - far fewer films than Ford at Fox for nearly the same price.
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
I appreciate your enthusiasm to see these great films, but if the set cost $500, would you still be excited about the "opportunity" to buy it?
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
Your notion that the box is for "connoisseurs" is correct, but that's also exactly the kind of marketing logic used by companies to get consumers to overpay for something. ("Be part of an elite group! Only real cinephiles love film so much that they're willing to buy this!") etc.
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
Arguing that this box is a good deal when you consider triple-dips is also pretty weak -- just because they screw me with triple-dips, that means it's OK when they gouge me with an overpriced box set?
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
Fox certainly has a right to charge whatever they want, and they've obviously determined that these films will have very limited appeal (sadly), hence the high price. But remember, Fox isn't releasing this set out of altruism - it's designed as a big-ticket item to maximize profits. If you can afford it and are excited to buy it, that's cool, but someone can also pass up the "opportunity" to give Fox their money without worrying that he or she is inhibiting the release of any more classic films from the studio. Fox knows the value of its library, and they likely understand that the Murnau/Borzage set will sell less than the Ford set -- again, probably why it's more expensive.
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"I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me."
My 25 most wanted DVDs: Chilly Scenes Of Winter (1979); The Dead (1987); The African Queen (1951); Johnny Guitar (1954); The Sterile Cuckoo (1969); The Friends Of Eddie Coyle (1973); The Rain People (196...
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Originally Posted by ted:r
My two basic points are: 1) Boycotting this mainly because one thinks Fox will realize the Error of Its Ways, price-wise, is an unreasonable belief, and 2) it is reasonable to expect more obscure films (which probably need a lot more restoration work also) to cost more than the average run of the mill film. And I still hold to those beliefs.
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Originally Posted by BradleyS
Those are good points, well argued. I just think that Fox made a killing with the Ford set last year, and they realized that there was a niche market of cinephiles who were willing to shell out big bucks for deluxe sets. So they scrambled to put together another set for this year's holiday season.
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"I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me."
My 25 most wanted DVDs: Chilly Scenes Of Winter (1979); The Dead (1987); The African Queen (1951); Johnny Guitar (1954); The Sterile Cuckoo (1969); The Friends Of Eddie Coyle (1973); The Rain People (196...
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Originally Posted by Pete York
As for restoration driving up the price, maybe, maybe not. Fox spent millions on The Black Swan which was sold at $14.95 srp and I picked up for $8. Even if that is an isolated case, there's more than a little wiggle room between $14.95 srp and ~$24.
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Charles Hoyt
