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Stalled series? There's Hope!

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Speaking of MIA Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In only got 2 best of releases and that was back in 2004.

Rhino did this, and I guess unless their license lapses that and the Guthy-Renker subscription discs (which I bought) will be it. Although with Dick Martin's death and the show's 40th anniversary there is an opportunity to try for season sets. The only music issues would be the first few episodes; most of the musical material after that is original to the show. Even if they (or anyone) did put out season sets the last season would probably not be released. George Schlatter, who didn't produce them but got their copyrights in a court battle, really hates them, and supposedly they're not that great anyway. When Trio aired the show they only went to 1970.

I don't see why, if Paramount would let them, MPI couldn't release the rest of the Beverly Hillbillies picking up from where they left off.

MGM still owns Green Acres but they basically don't exist, except to provide $40 bare-bones Blu-Rays and non-anamorphic DVDs. What was the last TV show they released?

King of the Hill is probably a music rights nightmare. They dropped all extras after season 2 to clear music for seasons 3-6, and it ate into profits.

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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

I don't put WKRP in the list of stalled shows, but the list of unreleased ones. Maybe we will see redoes of shows like that were screwed up the first time. (*cough*ALF*cough*)

Sony has tons of Screen Gems, Norman Lear/Embassy, Aaron Spelling, etc. shows just hanging there, not to mention almost every game show not by Goodson-Todman. They're not going to do anything with them, so they should let someone else have them (BCI, are you listening?)

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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

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Goody. Someone else to release edited episodes of Mama's Family. Let's party! Unless they actually re-do it and do it right then I'll say it and not be sarcastic.

Although with shows they actually own outright, edited episodes are seldom a problem. On those shows, I hold out hope. Knots Landing, for instance. Few music rights issues, passable extant masters.



That's probably a music rights thing. Change the licensing regulations and it'll be out in no time.


Believe me, the people I'm involved with have no interest in Mama's Family or any other 80s shows. The Warner shows that a company would want are the westerns and detective shows from the late 50s - early 60s. When someone says "Warner Shows", that is what people think of and are referring to.
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

Here's my list of stalled and/or abandoned shows:

Adam 12
Alias Smith & Jones
The Big Valley
The Fall Guy
Have Gun Will Travel
Simon & Simon
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It's funny, not 'ha-ha' funny, that Warner isn't involved given all the complaints and wishes about the remaining three seasons of Everwood.
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

For me I'd love to see a continuation of "Have Gun Will travel"and the "Big Valley", and would perhaps entertain a naive hope for "The Defenders", "Bus Stop" and "It's a Man's World". The only B+W sitcom I'd die for is "Dobie Gillis", would love to have the chance to rediscover others that I couldn't fully appreciate as a dumb kid. "Boris Karloff's Thriller" and an assured continuation of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents/Hour would light me up too. The Warners's Western and Detective holdings like "Cheyenne" , "Maverick", 77 Sunset Strip" Hawaiian Eye" etc. are long sought after. For more recent stuff "Larry Sanders Show" and "Franks Place" from the late '80s (The Tim Reid show set in New Orleans) Other folks on here have mentioned plenty of other gems too, and I really appreciate this hopefull "Intell" on possible licensing to the established and maybe new independent companies. Who knows, maybe even a few real vintage TV fans may yet become involved. The best thing about this site is how much you can get to learn from our knowledgeable members with industry connections.
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

Could this mean unedited releases of WKRP, I wonder? Hope Universal is part.
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

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Rhino did this, and I guess unless their license lapses that and the Guthy-Renker subscription discs (which I bought) will be it. Although with Dick Martin's death and the show's 40th anniversary there is an opportunity to try for season sets. The only music issues would be the first few episodes; most of the musical material after that is original to the show. Even if they (or anyone) did put out season sets the last season would probably not be released. George Schlatter, who didn't produce them but got their copyrights in a court battle, really hates them, and supposedly they're not that great anyway. When Trio aired the show they only went to 1970.

As far as the Trio showings, your statement is somewhat misleading. The reason the Trio airings stopped when they did is that the syndication package was being sold in two lots of 70 episodes each. Trio only bought the first package, which was exactly one-half of the episodes produced. In fact, the final episodes of the Trio run were the first four shows of the fourth season (not the end of the third). I'm sure it was a cost-saving measure on Trio's part to only lease half of the run, not the perceived lack in "quality" of the last two seasons.

As for George Schlatter, I'm sure if it meant making some money, he'd probably let them "escape" (if he holds veto rights anyway). Seen with a (admittedly jaded) modern eye, just about any episode of Laugh-In can be seen as sort of "bad", and I'm not trying to be insulting here. I have a warm spot in my heart for Laugh-In, and have VHS recordings of all the Trio showings, but I'm not going to stand here and say it's one of the funniest TV shows ever. Very innovative and ground-breaking for its day (particularly in pace, editing, etc), but lots of corny, old jokes. Hey, the Sid and Marty Krofft shows can quite justifiably be seen as "bad TV", but I do like some of it myself.

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I don't see why, if Paramount would let them, MPI couldn't release the rest of the Beverly Hillbillies picking up from where they left off.

Well, that really is the question, isn't it? Guess they have to make up their minds on whether they want to release the rest of it themselves or go ahead and licence out. The fact that a few of the B/W episodes didn't fall into P.D. makes Paramount just "picking up" a little more awkward (i.e. if they could've just started with "season 3", it would be a lot easier than releasing that with "what's left of" season 2).
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

Of course all of us are going to hope for a series that probably won't happen -- my first thought, of course, was WKRP, but I just doubt anybody can afford to pick it up even if Fox shopped it around -- but this is good news nonetheless.

In the past, the pattern has usually been that shows can get licensed out, but a studio won't usually "shop around" a show that it's already started releasing itself, even if it has no real possibility of finishing that show. But the last few seasons of a great show are in many ways a more valuable property for an independent company than the first season of a more obscure show, and at this point, many of us are more anxious to see the incomplete Fox or Paramount or Sony series continued, on whatever label, than to see shows that haven't been released yet. (There are some shows I still want, but there are more shows that I just want to see completed.) Let's hope for some good news, and thanks to Gord for the encouraging hints.
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many of us are more anxious to see the incomplete Fox or Paramount or Sony series continued, on whatever label, than to see shows that haven't been released yet. (There are some shows I still want, but there are more shows that I just want to see completed.) Let's hope for some good news, and thanks to Gord for the encouraging hints.


My point exactly!!

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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

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at this point, many of us are more anxious to see the incomplete Fox or Paramount or Sony series continued, on whatever label, than to see shows that haven't been released yet. (There are some shows I still want, but there are more shows that I just want to see completed.)

My thoughts exactly!
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

Hill Street would be so nice.

Lots of unreleased Uni stuff is turning up on Netflix, so the transfers are ready.
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Well, I didn't expect to have an announcement this soon after writing the article, but here it is...

Adam-12 season 2!
Adam-12 DVD news: Season 2 Coming in September | TVShowsOnDVD.com

Gord

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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

so... Universal titles are coming out.

My wife will be very upset when I start getting any and all Simon & Simon releases.
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Re: Stalled series? There's Hope!

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...The Warner shows that a company would want are the westerns and detective shows from the late 50s - early 60s. When someone says "Warner Shows", that is what people think of and are referring to....

Sounds like something a company like "Timeless" would try to do
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[quote=Gary OS]
BTW, speaking of this very thing, did anyone have a chance to listen to Shokus and hear about "Leave it to Beaver"? I didn't have an opportunity to tune in.

Both Frank and Ken were optimistic that season three and the others would eventually be released, although both were very upset with the way Universal has treated them with regards to their possible involvement with the DVDs. What will probably happen is that Shout Factory or another independent company will pick up the licensing and distribution from Universal, just as they announced that Adam 12's second season will be out this fall via Shout.
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Lots of unreleased Uni stuff is turning up on Netflix, so the transfers are ready.

How does Netflix get these anyway?

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Sounds like something a company like "Timeless" would try to do


Yes, it does.
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Thanks for posting this article, Tony. I hope we start to see some results. I'm ready for some more "Mary Hartman Mary Hartman"!
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OK, so here's the deal.
I was just about to give up on this hobby, because every series I collect is either completed or "stalled"
Here's my list of hopefuls which will make my collection complete.
Many of which are long in coming;

Charlie's Angels
Simon & Simon
T.J. Hooker
Hart To Hart
The Fall Guy
Hunter
Taxi
WKRP
It should be noted that most are Sony product, so if they can find someone to release the classic Spelling-
Goldberg stuff, it would be great.
For me, if these were completed, my collection would be a wrap!!

Dave/Gord, will there be a smile on my face soon??

WKRP?!?! NEVER AGAIN. I bought season 1 because I thought the music changes wouldn't affect the show - I was so wrong. Keep WKRP in syndication world until they could release the unedited original versions of the episodes.

As for stalled shows - give me Mary Tyler Moore, Night Gallery, Beverly Hillbillies, Leave it to Beaver and All in the Family.
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Please, please someone release some more Cagney & Lacey, Knots Landing and the final season of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea!
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I certainly hope that they are being realistic about it when they shop these series around. You're not going to get the moon for these series. If that's what the studios are looking for, there will be no takers and for good reason.

Adam 12 and a number of series got caught up in the DVD-18 issues that plagued Universal. I remember a number of posts on this forum about people liking the show but refusing to buy it on dvd-18s. I think that's why Adam 12, Dragnet, and others failed. I guess they realized their name was mud and why
McHale's Navy and Ironside was released through Shout.

As to Warner, they have stated they do not license. Man From UNCLE was an exception because I suspect Arena Productions actually had a stronger case for retaining at least partial ownership of dvd rights. The licensing was likely a compromise. Unfortunately most of the Warner shows do not have these issues.
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speaking of Warner Bros. they gave up with Mama's Family after only releasing the first season back in 2006. Many people cried foul do to the episodes being the syndicated, instead the originals, but still they could of released a "Best of" like with there TV Favorites line.
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Just my luck. Guess which studio abandoned my most-wanted series? That's it, Warner! I'm not asking for much, really, just give me KNOTS LANDING and EVERWOOD and I'll shut up. I'm even willing to let go of LIFE GOES ON if you at least give me these two. Part of me still clings to the very tiny hope that maybe once they're done with DALLAS, they might consider giving KNOTS LANDING another go...

Anyway, here are those I can still hope for, from SONY and FOX:

DIFF'RENT STROKES (SONY)
HILL STREET BLUES (FOX)
THE NANNY (SONY)
NYPD BLUE (FOX)
PARTY OF FIVE (SONY) - was stalled until the recent release of Season 3 but subsequent seasons most probably depend on how well it sold
PICKET FENCES (FOX)
THE PRACTICE (FOX)
ST. ELSEWHERE (FOX)
WHO'S THE BOSS? (SONY)

Bring these sets on!

Everwood : Seasons 3-4 - Knots Landing : Seasons 3-14 - The Nanny : Seasons 4-6 - Party of Five : Seasons 4-6 - Picket Fences : Seasons 2-4

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I seem to collect so many dvds which include many abandoned and stalled shows, some I hope to see more of include:

1-800 Missing - only season 2 was ever released
227
8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter
All In the Family
America's Next Top Model
American Dreams
American Family
Baretta
Baywatch
Benson
Bernie Mac Show
Boomtown
Boy Meets World
Butterflies
Cold Squad
Doc
Everwood
Jeremiah
Law & Order - not sure if its stalled just been a while since the original series has had a release
NYPD Blue
Poltergeist: The Legacy
She Spies
Sweet Valley High
This Is Wonderland
TJ Hooker
Touched By An Angel
The White Shadow
The Zack Files

Know some are Warner and probs unlikely but here's hoping maybe one day.
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I went in much more detail over on the TVGuide.com blog, but here's the "stalled" series I'm waiting on:

Everwood (Please Warner bring out the remaining seasons and with all of the music intact.)

The Fall Guy (with no music replacements or edits)

Jamie Oliver (Poor sales seem to stall any future releases from this British chef. I would love to see more releases like Jamie's Great Italian Escape, Jamie's School Dinners, Jamie's Return to School Dinners, Jamie at Home, The Naked Chef, the remaining episodes of Oliver's Twist, etc.)

Quincy, M.E. (the rest of the series with no music replacement and on single-sided discs)

Disney/Buena Vista/Miramax: Please put Beautiful Girls on Blu-ray with bonus features and the original theatrical trailer in 1080p, and an anamorphic re-release with bonus features and the original theatrical trailer day-and-date on DVD. Thanks!

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I Personally have nothing against music replacement if that's the only way a show can come out on DVD!

Same with "Syndication Edits" I have no problem with those either.

Sometimes we have to take what we can get.
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I Personally have nothing against music replacement if that's the only way a show can come out on DVD!

Same with "Syndication Edits" I have no problem with those either.

Sometimes we have to take what we can get.

That's just what the studios want to hear. Then they can fart out substandard work and expect the rest of us to be grateful. Not me, and not anyone who truly cares about the presentation of their favorite shows.

And who's to say they'll stop at 22 minutes? What's to stop them from presenting a whole season of a show in minisode form? (I'd be appalled, but not surprised, if Sony-Baloney tried to pull that)

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The Stalled stuff i would love to see get a 2nd-life so i could complete.

Hill Street Blues
St. Elsewhere
Hart to Hart
Fantasy Island
The Fall Guy
Simon & Simon
Cagney & Lacey
Picket Fences
T.J. Hooker

While we are at it farm out these below to since it seems they are never going to see the light of day:

Eight is Enough
Falcon Crest
Matt Houston
Scarecrow and Mrs. King
Spenser: Fore Hire
Street Hawk
Tales of the Gold Monkey
Trapper John, M.D.
Vega$
the DVD Collection
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I hope Sony is one of the studios considering farming out their library. I have so many of their titles I'd like to finish:

The Flying Nun
Hazel
Charlie's Angels
Fantasy Island
Police Woman
and the list goes on...

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