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Posted by Brian^K: Sound is not a problem... that goes direct to the 5.1 speaker system. This is just a matter of video, and you cannot mix :) the HDMI (for the HD) and the composite video (for the CC)... although if my wife was willing, we could set up a second television for the CC..... heheheheheh
We do always watch everything together. And when there are subtitles, we switch to the HDMI video connection.
In your case, I am not talking about audio only. I was assuming you have a receiver that allows HDMI audio and video. If you do, you can run HDMI audio and video to the receiver, which will in turn run HDMI to your TV.
You can also run a separate component version to your TV's component in, and run the player's regular stereo outputs into your TVs stereo inputs to watch programs from the player to your TV via component while still preserving the HDMI version to your receiver to your TV. Don't tell me "you cannot mix" cuz I do this daily. It is not about mixing. it is about choosing which version your TV shows. I also have a TV antenna connected to my TV in case the DISH goes out. This is not "mixing". I simply select "Antenna" instead of "DISH" or "DVD" when i want to watch the antenna broadcast. Most TVs allow switching between different sources, and "mixing" is not involved.
However, if you watch everything together, this will not matter. My wife and I watch a lot of stuff together, but she does not feel compelled to join me for every viewing of Zulu, or Battle of Britain or A Bridge Too Far, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Brandon Conway 
For the US releases at least, the major studios will be putting EN SDH on the disc going forward and ditching Closed Captioning. It's in their best interest to do so. I'm 99% sure that every Warner US BD disc has EN SDH subs, for example.
I don't normally pay attention to subtitles listings unless it's a "foreign" film, but recently, I noticed that most studios do seem to provide more subtitling support on BD than they did on DVD. In fact, I was asked by someone if I had any/many DVDs w/ Chinese subtitles, and I had very few and nearly all are Sony/Columbia titles (or Chinese movies) -- Sony seemed to be the only mainstream studio who cares to provide more subtitling support than just English and Spanish and/or French here in North America, but even they haven't done that much in recent years.
However, in my search, I noticed that I actually have a whole bunch of BDs that provided Chinese subtitles usually along w/ a long list of other language subtitles -- of course, that bunch is still small compared to my entire BD collection, but it's a lot bigger than it was for my DVDs. And the supporting studios are not limited to Sony alone, but seems to be quite varied at least for now. Maybe part of the greater support is due to the more relaxed region coding/distribution policy of the current BD marketplace vs what it was in the earlier days of DVD. Regardless, it's still nice to see the increased support for subtitling even though I don't normally use that feature for English language films...
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Man-Fai, the subtitle increase is definitely due to creating discs with more territories in mind.
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Sounds like BD is doing just fine.
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Given a
recent survey of PS3 owners in terms of BD usage (the web page is a bit overly enthusiastic, perhaps, but the numbers are what matters), I think it is legit to count them as players.
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I'm with you, Craig.
My PS3 is my primary BD player.
I have one game. I've got 193 BDs.
I certainly hope they're taking us into consideration.
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Add me to the list of thouse who use a PS3 as a Blu-Ray player only. I don't even own a game (have dl'ed 2 demos).
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Ditto the comments about using the PS3 almost exclusively for movies so far.
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TravisR 
If the rumored price break comes to the PS3 next month, I'll be picking one up. I may buy a game but 99% of the time, it will be used for Blu-rays.
LOL it still hasn't lowered in price? Those rumors have been around since the beginning, I think :).
I thought about getting a PS3 myself when I was searching for a Blu-ray player. But the apparent noise and the fact I almost never play games made me decide against it.
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LOL it still hasn't lowered in price? Those rumors have been around since the beginning, I think :).
Depends on how you look at it I guess. If you didn't care about PS2 backward compatibility, the 80GB PS3 is indeed cheaper than it used to be.
Sony seems to be (more or less) following the PC sales model for the PS3, ie. keep the same pricing structure, but migrate the feature sets (outside of PS2 support) down the chain as tech/production advances allow.
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The noise issue was a bit bothersome (I know there are various anecdotal reports of more or less noise--in my small room, the noise was a bit much). However, thanks to the magic of bluetooth technology, I solved that problem and made it more versatile at the same time. A couple of inexpensive cable runs from Blue Jeans Cable (one HDMI and one toslink--my receiver is not HDMI capable...yet ;) ) and a bluetooth remote and voila--I have a BD player for my projector in the theatre as well as on my TV in the kids' playroom (they don't care that it's not HD) and the noise issue is no longer a problem. I will concede my solution is a bit unorthodox and may not be suitable to very many people, but it works for me. Having suffered through the load times of the player at my friend's house (admittedly, back in fall 2007), I like the speed of my PS3. I'm still learning how to use it as a media centre (though I suspect things will run far more smoothly when I upgrade my computer). If I were buying one today, I'd get the Oppo. But I have no serious urge to displace my PS3 in favour of the Oppo until such time as I replace the living room TV with an HD display (won't be for some time yet, it's not a priority). At that moment, I'll send the PS3 upstairs and get the Oppo (or whatever they have then) for the home cinema.
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Jim_K
You shouldn't have any fan noise as long as it's somewhat ventilated. The fan operates at different speeds and only kicks on high speed if it overheats. I have an enclosed cabinet for my HT gear and as long as I leave the front door propped open about 4" for ventilation when it's in use there's no fan noise at all. If I forget and leave the door closed, then yeah it'll sound like a jet engine after a while.
A minor inconvenience compared to the various issues with standalone players.
I'm waiting for that fabled price drop to get a 2nd PS3 to place in my bedroom.
My PS3 sits (and did in the HT room) on the top shelf open to all sides (I have it sitting horizontally). I have the 80gb model with SACD playback capability (no longer available) and, from all the anecdotal reports I've read over the past few years, my specific model is one that has more reports of fan noise than any other (very unscientific method, I grant). I recall reading that the most recent models are generally far less prone to fan noise and the 40gb non-SACD model that was available when I bought mine was said to be quieter than any other. I wanted the SACD playback capability, so I gambled on the fan noise issue.
The noise is not constant (which, in a way, is too bad, as a constant fan noise is easier to ignore than a variable one) and it is not deafening. But it is enough to distract from quiet passages in films and music in my small room. And it is louder than both my projector fan and my HD-A2 fan. In the end, the noise motivated me to find a solution that made the player more versatile, rather than less, so I don't mind. I also learned that a 30 foot HDMI run could be purchased at a dollar a foot and work impeccably (same for a 30 foot toslink--which was good to know as I needed a second 30 foot length to solve a different audio connection/layout problem in the living room). Thank goodness for Blue Jean Cables (there are some other online places with equally good pricing, but BJC had the best shipping costs to my house in Canada)--at the per foot price for both HDMI and toslink at local B&M stores, I was looking at 30 to 50 dollars a foot--instead of 30 dollars total, I was looking at NINE HUNDRED to FIFTEEN HUNDRED (TIMES 2)--for cables!!! No thanks.
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Sure the PS3 makes some fan noise, but so does my projector, and the apartment complex I live in isn't exactly quiet, so I personally find it a complaint not worthy of balancing out the advantages.
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Carlo Medina
The fan noise is a requisite evil with the PS3. Remember it is more like a computer than anything else, and such needs cooling in order to avoid overheating. What would happen if they quieted it down? The XBox 360, that's what. Whereas the original versions of the 360 experienced anywhere from 20-50% failure rate (google Red Ring of Death), the PS3 failure rates have been much lower. If you need quiet, go with a standalone player, the PS3 is not going to please you.
I sit 12' from my PS3 and with any volume going on the receiver, I can't hear the fan.
I have to say that, in my HT room, the PS3 was only five feet away from me. At 12 feet, I'm sure I wouldn't notice it. (It's still only five linear feet away from my seat, but it's behind a closed door, so I don't hear it at all).
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