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*** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread

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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
I think it is really funny to use Black Sabbath's IRON MAN for the end credits. Sabbath's song is the anti-thesis to IRON MAN as a hero.

Yeah. As I recall, Sabbath's song is a homage to the Ted Hughes story The Iron Man. It's cute that they used for it for the Iron Man soundtrack but it has nothing to do with the character.
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread

To their credit, they didn't use the lyrics.
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by oscar_merkx
What happened ?
Someone may know but, it could have been as simple as the director just not liking what Goldsmith had done or they couldn't see eye to eye. Scores being rejected or composers being replaced, unfortunately, is quite common. Goldsmith had a few scores rejected during his career another of which was for the movie Timeline. I don't like Goldsmith's Timeline score so, I don't blame them there. Howard Shore had a score reject for Ransom that I think is better then what James Horner through together for the movie. Of course, Shore most recently had his score for Jackson's King Kong rejected which ended up being scored by James Newton Howard. Alan Silvestri was originally hired to score Pirates of the Caribbean but, was fired. Gabriel Yard wrote a far superior score then James Horner for the movie Troy that was directed. Yard's score is magnificent and would have help the movie bit time IMO. It is also one of those scores that I could have easily seen competing for an Oscar if it hadn't been replaced.

This is a good website dedicated to rejected film scores: Rejected Film & TV Scores - The Main Page
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Re: Iron Man (New Line sets 2005 release date)

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
For me, I enjoyed the directorial tone and effort much more by Nolan on Batman Begins, than Jon Favreau. There's this thing missing in Iron Man, it's the way the action scenes are cut together that don't quite provide tension and suspense given the amount of firepower and capabilities that the suit gives Tony Stark (plus the camera doesn't move as fluidly as I'd like), and even the early escape sequence wasn't shot or put together all that well. Favreau just doesn't quite have the pacing and editing panache to make really gripping cinema to my eyes. Nolan's just operating on a different playing field. I've loved to see what Alfonso Cuaron could do with a nice-sized budget on the next Iron Man.

I didn't like the "world" of Tony Stark when he interacts with the real world, it had the same blandness of the scenes from the Fantastic Four films, it just feels false. It's the little touches that separate films that feel like they are in their own headspace when you watch them, versus ones that are too concentrated in the principle characters, so much so that the rest of the backdrop feels inert and lifeless.
Patrick captures much of what I felt. For me, every detail was just off that, on the whole, gave an entirely uninteresting movie. The enemies -- some Elbonian clan and a corporate rival -- lacked menace and urgency. The realism of Tony Stark's world was undercut by the cartoony physics and his impossible hyper-MacGyvering of weapons systems. The romantic tension was lacking all chemistry. It was one of those oddities where, by all measures, it should be a rollicking good time, but it's just dull.

I really wanted to enjoy this movie -- I wanted a good action fix this weekend, but it wasn't there.
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread

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I mean do movie audiences only have enough money to see one film a month or something? I went to both films mentioned in the article and both films succeed in their primary function which is to entertain.
This deserves its own thread really. It's not that I can't afford movies, it's that I don't want to. I can pay $20 to see a movie, and possibly be disappointed by it (as with Iron Man). Or I can stay home and watch Tivo, a movie on DVD, or any of 30 unwatched TV seasons on DVD (that are better than most all current "blockbusters"). And then there's video games. Or board games. Or other hobbies. And that's not even thinking about housework and career-work and family.

Theaters aren't enough of a priority -- or that much fun compared to all the other leisure options available to be worth more than about one movie a month.

And my friends with kids -- two movies a year if they're lucky.
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Just got around to seeing IM last night, and I had a great time. One thing I didn't care for was the speed at which the villain (Obadiah) was able to learn to use his suit. Unless I missed something, it seems as though it would have taken some practice (as Tony Stark had in several scenes). Also, instead of the explosion at the end killing the villain, I would have preferred the icing problem be the kill scene. I think it would have been the perfect climax.
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This was my favorite movie so far this year - I'll definitely get the DVD. I think it did justice the the original comic...
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