WHV Press Release: How The West was Won (DVD/Blu-Ray)+Western & Errol Flynn Classics

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Absolutely awesome indeed

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To quote Tallulah Bankhead in LIFEBOAT: In a word, wow.

Does this mean that SEARCH FOR PARADISE will someday be released to Blu-Ray or DVD? Can't get enough Cinerama! I also hope the 70mm Cinerama films will someday be re-released in Smilebox format (2001, GRAND PRIX, etc.), since the curved image is the way they were originally seen.

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I don't think the 70mm "Cinerama" films were meant for a curved screen, especially 2001 and Grand Prix. It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World wasn't even designated as Cinerama until after it was filmed, I think. The whole point of Smilebox is to correct the perspective and geometry of 3-panel Cinerama films because of the extremely wide angle. The image is inherently a curve.

It may be somewhat good for the first two Todd-AO films (Oklahoma! and Around the World in 80 Days), but even they only had occasional wide-angle shots that would benefit from the geometric correction.

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Yes indeed.
Let's hope the popularity of the newly restored HOW THE WEST WAS WON and consumer acceptance of the smilebox format will encourage WHV to release other Cinerama / 70mm experiences in the way they were intended to be seen. I think we'd get there sooner if the smilebox version were made available on standard DVD as well. It won't hurt the push on Blu-Ray, but the steep cost of BR limits how many people witness the smilebox, and that steep cost isn't coming down to earth soon enough. Meanwhile there's money to be made in standard DVD with something new.

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I think they could've increased the UCE price by $5 or $10 above the UCE price for Bonnie & Clyde and The Searchers if they presented the film in two different ways.

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[quote=Patrick McCart]I don't think the 70mm "Cinerama" films were meant for a curved screen, especially 2001 and Grand Prix.

I've seen "2001" on a Cinerama screen, and the space station/Earth orbit scene and especially the Star Gate sequence have an even greater impact on a curved screen. I'd imagine the same goes for the steeply banked Monza racetrack scenes in "Grand Prix", although I've only seen that movie flat. And there's always the advantage of seeing those films the way millions of people saw them in their original release, the way I would've seen them if I'd been old enough to go to roadshow movies on my own in the 1960's

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But the films are released in both systems, DVD and BR.
Wait ... which two ways?

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I would have liked the Smilebox to be included in the SD set but I'll be happy with it anyway. I'm surprised that Santa Fe Trail isn't in the Flynn set, is that because it's public domain?

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I posted this in a similar thread but it bears repeating.

I have been informed that the Cinerama Adventure documentary
has over 20 minutes of Smilebox process shots in it and it will be
included in both Blue Ray and standard versions of How The West
Was Won. So those who only buy the standard vers. will be able
to see many examples of SmileBox from all the old travelogues
and HTWWW.

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Thanks for the news.

Awesome

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If I remember correctly there is also an example of Smilebox on the King Kong (1933) 2 disc set.

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To the owners of, Search For Paradise, South Seas Adventure, Seven Wonders of The World and This is Cinerama, I have my wallet open and will be first in line to purchase a Smilebox DVD or Blu-Ray version.

I made a big mistake by buying a suspect DVD of CINERAMA's RUSSIAN ADVENTURE off E-Bay and it went straight into the rubbish bin, as it was totally unwatchable.
The muffled mono sound also rubbed salt into the wound.
The image was so bad you could hardly see what was going on.
Cinerama buffs beware.

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Letterboxed and Smileboxed in the same UCE package; spread over 4 DVDs rather than 2.

I mean, how much does it cost to press a DVD these days? $1?

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A few years ago, I had the pleasure of attending a screening of Dave Strohmaier’s documentary about Cinerama which is an extra feature on the HTWWW set, and it's truly outstanding. WB is to be commended for including this in the package -- it's a must see for anyone interested in the history of cinema and film formats. To be honest, I'm more excited about seeing this documentary again than I am about HTWWW.

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I saw David Strohmaier’s Cinerama documentary at the Cinerama Dome in LA a couple of years ago, at a morning screening. The picture was projected "window-boxed" (in the middle of the giant Cinerama screen) from a video source, but the picture quality was outstanding and the Smilebox sequences, which curved a little more on the giant curved screen, were awesome, truly reminiscent of the feel and scope of Cinerama even though they were obviously much smaller than they would have been in true Cinerama. The documentary is great, with lots of shots from Cinerama movies that have not been seen in decades. I just can't wait to get this package.

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I hope they present the documentary anamorphic on the DVD so that the Cinerama sequences use the entire space of a widescreen TV.

The 4:3 material should just be pillar boxed out to 16:9

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The showing at Yale University last year was masked to 1.66 but I'm sure 1.78 would be fine.

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Have there been any updates as to whether the DVD edition will contain the Smilebox version?

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I echo those who praise Cinerama Adventure. It's a superb piece of work - like the doco on Cleopatra, it goes the extra mile in seeking out not just the fact and the image but the social, artistic and political context. I especially liked the aside that Cinerama is an anagram of American. I loved that!

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yeah, the airs some people put on around here-you'd think you had accidently stumbled into a meeting of the MENSA CLUB...and were not welcome

Ill have to agree with you here-most of the "Hi-Tech home viewing" set will have never heard of HTWWW, and would rather watch something screamingly modern like the latest Disney shazam / LAURA CROFT/STAR WARS/VAN HELSING/BATMANs/SUPERMAN/SPIDERMAN/DAREDEVIL/HELLBOY Cloverfield, TERMINATOR 2-3 ,ARMAGEDDON etc etc or at worst, Blade Runner/ALIEN etc.
Most of the people ive met or have seen posting at various BBs into HT have little interest in film/s made before 1980 or worse, 2000-where the look is so sharp and saturated- and a WESTERN at that- WESTERN!? too unscreamingly unmodern and quaint=boring-there are exceptions, my self included.
In another post about WARNER sci-fi double features-some of which are double hexed by being black & white AND made before 1980....
What chance will we ever have of seeing some of these and many other classics or low sales classics on BD-?

I'll tell you after I get home from the grocery store tonite with my winning SUPERLOTTO ticket, which is why SD just might be around for awhile-and if the economy doesnt pick up, BD may join HD in the cememtary.
The blowout-fire sales of BD are getting to be like Starbucks-one on every corner-make me just a tad nervous-some are almost being given away...
The number of box stores closing/ or of tech sales on the edge is incredible...almost as bad as 600 Starbucks/_______(fill in the blank) closing-its gonna get a lot worse-1929 had a number of nice('everythings just fine') rallies before slowly sliding to rock bottom.
But im getting off topic.

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Amazon has now changed the pics for both the SE and UCE to show them as 3-disc sets; the film split over two discs, extras on the third:

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I see the three discs for the UCE but only two for the SE. The SE mentions "...10 behind-the-scenes photo cards, 10 postcards..." but they are not shown in the picture.

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RolandL: Here's a link. Amazon.com: How the West Was Won Hopefully this is like Apocalypse Now - The Complete Doosier, with a transfer for the LB and SB versions on each disc? It's really short to be split into two parts otherwise, no?

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The discs are labelled 'The Movie - Part 1', 'The Movie - Part 2' and 'Special Features'.

That Smilebox transfer really is looking like a BD exclusive, despite the hopes being raised here.

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Sorry. My bad. I thought when John said "SE" he meant the Blu-Ray SE.

155 minutes on one disc might be sacrificing to much PQ.

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The BBC technology programme Click had a report about film restoration last week, which featured Ned Price talking about the remastering of How The West Was Won, along with some before and after shots.

Here's a link to it: BBC

The film restoration segment is about ten minutes in.

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I'm very excited to see these on my new Pioneer 60" KURO plasma.

P.S. About cover art: although Warners has made cover art from original poster art in years past, the covers are always (in my estimation) repainted.

A very good example of this is Suspicion. Just look online for the poster art for this 1941 Hitchcock movie, and then look at the DVD cover. They are similar, but not the same. The art has been repainted, by someone inferior to the original illustrator.

I think those new covers for the Westerns look swell.

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I'm admittedly a bit dense but I still don't understand if the complete Smileboxed edition of HOW THE WEST WAS WON will be included on the UCE?

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No evidence whatsoever to support that possibility; the short answer is it won't be and the SB version will be - as stated in Warners own press release - a BD exclusive.

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My big beef isn't the smilebox, since I'll be buying the BD.

But I really want the deluxe edition with all the printed materials.

I'm gonna have to buy both, I guess.