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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
The Beaver has a page for
Cimarron
(I much prefer the older version myself...)
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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
As much as all films should be seen in their original aspect ratios, "Stalking Moon" really needs to be seen in its 2.4:1 Panavision ratio. I think one of the reasons that some people have seen it on video and not liked it as much as they remembered in theaters is that the panning and scanning really messes up the film, even moreso than with most films of the era. The space between and around the characters is extremely important, whether making them seem exposed in the first half of the film in the wide open Arizona desert, or making the audience sense the potential for menace behind every rock, hill, and tree in the mountainous New Mexico setting of the second half of the film.
Agreed that Escape from Fort Bravo looks pretty terrible, which is about par for the course when you see the "Anscocolor" name. In terms of the video presentation, I got the sense that they likely had to put a lot of hard work into it to get it to look as passable as it does. Heavy grain turns to massively heavy grain during opticals, but the color timing remains steady. The whole palette seems to want to tilt towards magenta, but they manage to hold it off for most of the presentation. Contrast is very high, but they manage to eek enough detail out of dark areas of the screen for it to work, etc. It appears slightly over-matted at a 1.78:1 aspect ratio.
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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
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Agreed that Escape from Fort Bravo looks pretty terrible, which is about par for the course when you see the "Anscocolor" name. In terms of the video presentation, I got the sense that they likely had to put a lot of hard work into it to get it to look as passable as it does. Heavy grain turns to massively heavy grain during opticals, but the color timing remains steady. The whole palette seems to want to tilt towards magenta, but they manage to hold it off for most of the presentation. Contrast is very high, but they manage to eek enough detail out of dark areas of the screen for it to work, etc. It appears slightly over-matted at a 1.78:1 aspect ratio.
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Yeah, I remember other "Anscocolor" films like "Men of the Fighting Lady" and even "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" not having vivid coloring to them.
In regard to the aspect ratio being over-matted at 1.78:1, I was under the impression that "Escape from Fort Bravo" was filmed in 1.66:1 ratio?
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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
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...In regard to the aspect ratio being over-matted at 1.78:1, I was under the impression that "Escape from Fort Bravo" was filmed in 1.66:1 ratio?
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Watching the DVD matted to 1.78:1, you will continue to be under that impression. I am watching via an LCD projector and things still look a little tight - even with zero overscan.
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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
Let's show a little love for the Flynn westerns,
DVDBeaver has the lowdown...
Greatly looking forward to these


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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
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Let's show a little love for the Flynn westerns, DVDBeaver has the lowdown...
Greatly looking forward to these   
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I have watched three of four and am impressed so far. My review might not be done until the end of the week, though. I am still furiously typing up my Western Classics Collection review. All of those look very good except for "Escape from Fort Bravo" which was discussed above. "Cimarron" suffers from some edge ringing that is distracting during brightly lit exteriors.
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Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08
The Flynn set is currently #81 in sales ranking for ALL Movies and TV DVDs on Amazon.com. Very happy about this!
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