Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

Now is this just me or is WB giving us another Blu-ray release only using the old tired dolby digital track? I was checking on the audio options for the bluray release and it looks like it will only be offering a DD track. Has anyone heard if this is correct, or are they actually going to give us a uncompressed pcm or dolby true hd track? If all we are getting is the tired DD track ported over from the SD-DVD release then I will most likely pass on this title when it is released.

I would rather wait for a second release when they might offer a lossless audio track and buy this tittle then. I am glad we are seeing this title on Bluray but come on WB, you are killing me.

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

Are you talking about the original Ocean's 11 or the remake?

The remake was released back in November in the trilogy set, so I imagine it is just that same release packaged by itself. All 3 Ocean's films only had DD on the blu-ray release and DD+ on the HD DVD release. This was pretty standard for Warner.

Doug

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

Since it's probably the same disc included in the Blu-ray boxset that's already available, you might want to check with someone who has that.

EDIT: I see Doug beat me to it. I believe, though, that the DD on Warner's Blu-rays was usually at 640kb/ps, which would make them superior to the S-DVD (though probably not enough to satisfy the OP).

M.

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

Hey Doug,

Sorry I kinda spaced out about having this thread and forgot about it. Anyway I was refering to the newer Oceans 11. I am not to thrilled about this title being offered in DD and I guess with WB being involved I should not be surprised. They put out a great title like Blade Runner and then they turn around and go back to crummy DD. For me it does not matter that it is 640kb/ps as DD is DD and I do not care for it. So since it will not be coming with Dolby True HD, PCM or DTS-HD MA I am going to have to pass on this title! I am going to buy repurchase the Mummy and Mummy Returns on Blu-ray since it will include a lossless track to replace my DD+ version on HD-DVD.

IMHO DD+ is ok and better than DD but I would rather have DTHD, its the only Dobly audio I am impressed with even with the stupid DN.

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

Well as I said this is just a re-package of the original 3 film set, so I'm sure they didn't go back and re-author the disc, they just broke up the set.

Doug

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

Thanks for the info Douglas. I will wait for WB to get there act together and put out another Blu-ray version with lossless. This is one of the things I put up with and was not happy with HD-DVD. The use of DD+ which IMHO is nothing more than a over glorified DD. I would really prefer to not buy anymore DD titles ever again.

I hope that we do not get any DD titles from Paramount or Universal on Blu-ray. I just never understood why WB uses DD tracks on Blu-ray.

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

I hear ya, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Dogu

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

I hear you on that one Douglas.

This is one title that I will have to put on hold until it does get re-released with lossless. There will be other titles that get put off as well that do not have lossless.

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

I would prefer lossless, but the lack of it won't prevent me from picking up a movie that I really enjoy. Plus because I was more or less forced to get a PS3, I can't listen to lossless audio until I upgrade my receiver anyway, and thats not likely to be anytime soon.

Doug

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

I just got tired of the double dip game with DVD so I am trying to to waste money on buying duplicate titles if I can help it. I remember buying a number of DVD's in DD because that was all that was available at the time. Only to have a newer transfer and a DTS track come out later. I never care to much for lossy DD and for me its kind of a waste. But mostly because I can not afford to to keep up that practice and upgrade my ht at the same time. Heck even if I wasn't upgrading my equipment I still am tired of buying titles over and over on the same format. I am sure that there will be a few titles that I will end up buying anyway even though they have a DD track. But I am trying to not do that if I can help it.

What receiver do you currently own Douglas?

I currently own a 10+ year old Yamaha RX-V995 that will end up being upgraded to a Denon 3808ci or to a Onkyo 805 or 905. All depends on if I can actually get some money saved up to actually buy it? Then its off to upgrade my Sony BDP-S300 to a Panny BD30K to go with the new receiver. Then to a new 60" or 70" 1080p 120Hz HDTV and then I upgrade the center channel and rear channel speakers. Cant wait to get it all done so I can just concentrate up buying movies. Dam this is an exspensive hobby.

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

I have a 10 year old Sony STR-DE595. It has 5.1 analog in, so I can get lossless sound from my HD DVD player, and I was able to get lossless from my Samsung BD-P1000, but now that I've gone to the PS3 I'm out of luck for now.

I'm looking at upgrading to the Onkyo TX-SR605, but it will probably be a year or more before I can do that. There are several business expenses that come first and at the moment lossless audio isn't one of them, but a VC-1 encoder is.

Doug

Re: Upcoming Oceans 11 Bluray Release, why DD?

While Oceans should have had lossless, I don't think it's quite as big of a problem since it's a more dialogue-driven movie.