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HTF Blu-Ray Review: Bonnie and Clyde

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Bonnie and Clyde (Blu-Ray)

Studio: Warner Home Video
Rated: R (violence)
Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1
HD Encoding: 1080p
HD Video Codec: VC-1
Audio: Dolby Digital English 1.0
Subtitles: English; French; Spanish; Korean
Time: 111 minutes
Disc Format: 1 SS/DL Blu-Ray disc.
Case Style: Booklet
Theatrical Release Date: 1967
Blu Ray Release Date: March 25, 2008


Bonnie Parker (Faye Dunaway) is a bored, frustrated waitress in the slums of east Dallas when one day Clyde Barrow (Warren Beatty) walks into her life trying to steal a car outside her momma’s house. The two exchange flirtatious banter with Bonnie clearly seeing Clyde’s bad boy side and a means by which to occupy her time or get her out of there. Bonnie challenges Clyde’s contention that he had done time by asking him to commit a robbery, which he does. She is so turned on by this man and his actions she rushes him to the car for some frantic love-makin’. But Clyde ain’t the love-makin’ type, giving Bonnie one more reason to pursue this dangerous and dapper deviant. The pair, hopped up on adrenaline, frustration and greed cut a path of crime across the dustbowl of 1930’s America, robbing banks and stores but not the common man. They add to their crew a nebbish sidekick, C.W. Moss (Michael J. Pollard), Clyde’s brother Buck (Gene Hackman) and his shrieking wife, Blanche (Estelle Parsons). The gang continues its spree while being chased from state to state by local law all the while fighting with one another over internal politics. No good crime goes unpunished, and the longer the group continues its heists the more willing the coppers will use any means necessary to apprehend them.

Bonnie and Clyde is one of those pictures you’ve heard so much about due to its graphic violence and its not so subtle sexual overtones. In the framework of today’s movies, it’s downright tame, but in 1967 it set the screen on fire. American audiences had never seen a bottle of pop put to such illicit use, nor had they seen that much blood coming from that many bullet holes. It ushered in the newest trend in movies: the age of deeper fictional realism in the face of social demoralization. Arthur Penn’s direction and willingness to amp it all up paved the way for the onslaught of violent and sexual pictures such as The Wild Bunch, A Clockwork Orange and Straw Dogs. While these aspects of the film may have got the most attention at first, the strong performances from all five of the primary actors garnered huge attention at Oscar time, nabbing Parsons a well deserved supporting actress win.

The movie also deals with the public’s fascination of infamy. Today we are regularly overwhelmed with the misdeeds of our famous, but that wasn’t as prevalent in the ‘30’s. Folks of the time relied on newspapers to read what the gangsters of the day were doing, and Bonnie and Clyde captured the imagination of America with their Robin Hood-esque antics and self promotion. Clyde was a big fan of his fame, making sure he told his victims his identity during a heist, and being upset when the media attributed robberies to him that were not. He and his gang would routinely read the papers to see what they were up to, even using law enforcement as unwilling accomplices.

Penn and screenwriters Robert Benton and David Newman show the gang as carefree delinquents and reinforce this theme with a jaunty banjo line trying to trick us into thinking they really aren’t bad folk, they’re just making do with what they can. Once they get down to business and bullets start flying, any charm they had is thrown out the window. We are reminded that regardless of their motives, they were still cold blooded killers. Penn and the screenwriters continue this rollercoaster of expectations throughout the pictures leaving us sympathetic, almost, to Bonnie and Clyde’s fateful conclusion. Their end, with not a legal proceeding in sight and thumbing its nose at the still new Miranda rules, only cemented their public personas as a couple of “good folk just tryin’ to get by while John Law was keeping them down.”

This release introduces Warner’s new “book format” disc cases. It’s basically, just that, a regular size disc package that is a hardcover book containing a 34 page booklet with information on the film and it reprints part of the original press kit. This is a great way to set apart these classic releases and I’m looking forward to more of these from Warner.


Video:
Note: I am watching this title using a Marantz VP 11-S1 DLP projector, which has a native resolution of 1080p. I am using a Sony Playstation 3 Blu-Ray player while a Denon 3808CI does the switching and pass through of the video signal. I am utilizing the HDMI capabilities of each piece of equipment.

The Blu-Ray disc is in the VC-1 codec presented at 1080p with an aspect ratio of 1.85:1. The film elements of the picture have recently been re-mastered in high definition to produce an excellent looking video image. There is not a trace of dirt or debris to be found. Color fidelity is outstanding showing distinct differences between each of the actors skin tones. Sets, both interior and exterior stand out, with the dust bowl surroundings and dilapidated houses looking suitably drab. During the first scene in the movie, where Clyde is trying to steal the car in front of Bonnie’s house, the couple walks past a bank of trees that makes the overall image look 3-D. It is no surprise that several scenes in the movie have this excellent depth of field. There are, however, some scenes where focus is soft, but that appears to be more of a stylistic choice on the part of the cinematographer, Burnett Guffey and Penn. Detail and sharpness is otherwise excellent throughout the picture and I was having fun picking out the minute detail in the labels of items on some of the shelves in the stores Clyde was robbing. Film grain is noticed but it is minor and adds to the organic feel of the image. Black levels are very good, but seemed to lighten in the latter half of the picture leaving the image a little flat. I did not notice any edge enhancement or video noise. Warner does good again by its catalog releases.


Audio:
The Dolby Digital 1.0 soundtrack was attained by the HDMI connection of the Sony Playstation 3 to the Denon 3808CI.

Adam Gregorich and I had a good laugh at the packaging for this disc and its boasting of “hi-def” sound, but just how “hi-def” can 1.0 be? Really not too much after watching the feature. The source elements have been cleaned up and restored producing a very clean audio track, but that’s about it. The volume on the 1.0 track is also very low and I had to raise the sound by about 25% over what I normally listen to. Obviously there was no surround information, and there was very little LFE activity. I also found it surprising there were no additional language soundtracks with this release.


Bonus Material:

The History Channel Documentary- Love and Death: The Story of Bonnie and Clyde (43:15, in SD): Some remaining family members, authors and historians talk about the real life story of Bonnie and Clyde. This is a great companion piece to the film, accompanied by numerous pictures, to give you a true feel of these people.

Revolution: The Making of Bonnie and Clyde (65:00 total in SD): This doc is split into three parts:
Bonnie and Clyde’s Gang: The screenwriters, Penn, Beatty and others talk about the genesis of the project. It’s fascinating to find who may have been involved in the picture and other story elements at different times. Funny how much Bob Dylan’s name pops up.
The Reality and Myth of Bonnie and Clyde: Here we dig into more of the nitty-gritty of the movie, talking about set design, costumes, locations and more. All the participants talk about the filming as well.
Releasing Bonnie and Clyde: This third part talks about the activity after shooting, including editing and music. It details Jack Warner’s review and other reviews as the film was rolled out, as well as how Beatty and others changed the advertising to better suit the picture. The participants wrap-up the doc talking about its influence.

Deleted Scenes (5:28, in SD): these scenes were deleted prior to the theatrical release and audio for them is presumed lost. For this release, the intended dialogue is available via subtitles sourced from the film’s shooting script. There are two scenes, The Road to Mineola and Outlaws. The first one is Bonnie, Clyde and C.W. figuring out how they’re going to pull the next heist, and the second one is Bonnie vamping it up (again) to We’re in the Money while C.W. takes a bath. It then goes into the scene where Clyde tells Bonnie she may want to leave since he’s now a murderer. Nothing too exciting here with elements of this covered elsewhere in the picture.

Warren Beatty Wardrobe Tests (7:41, in SD): a way too long piece of Beatty walking around in various costumes.

Trailers (4:11): both the teaser and the theatrical. It is odd how for such a period piece of a movie you can peg these trailers as being products of the late sixties.


Conclusions:
One of the most influential and impressive films is given a deluxe treatment on Blu-Ray. Warner’s does a great job on an outstanding video presentation and some great extras.

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All reviews done on a Marantz VP11S1 1080p DLP projector.

Displays professionally calibrated by Gregg Loewen of Lion AV.

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I have this enroute, and I am very anxious to watch this movie again. Truth be told, this film got me interested in pre-70s cinema, and I can't thank it enough for it.

I'd be interested to here a little bit more about the packaging, particularly how is the disc stored? The Evil Dead books were always notorious for scratching the discs included. I suppose I should be thankful Blu-ray Disc has a protective coating.
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Thanks for the review. I'll have to pick this one up.

I have one minor quibble. Hi-def or high fidelity sound doesn't inherently mean multi channel. High Fidelity simply means that the sound signal and the equipment it is playing through are able to reproduce a wide frequency range with great accuracy. Mono can clearly do this.

I will grant you that the general nature of film sound in the late 60s probably means that this track is something less than High Fidelity.

Also the volume of this sound track was intentionally mixed low at the request of Warren Beatty at the time of the making of the film, so that the gun shots, mixed at a higher volume than the over all track, would be shockingly loud to the audience.

Doug
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Paul, the "bookcase" is very well put together. Imagine a hardback book that has a jewel case on the inside of the back cover. I had no issue with the presentation or quality factor of the design.

Douglas, in this new age of TrueHD and DTS-MA with up to seven channels of lossless sound, a 1.0 track was nothing if not...quaint. I agree with all of your points on the quality of the track and how they were presented at the time. One of the reasons I love HTF and doing the reviews is that those with a deeper knowledge of films can provide us with info on the sound mixes or what have you. In the two-plus hours of bonus material, I didn't hear anything about the sound being quieter so the gun battles were intentionally startling. Thanks for the assist!

Pat

All reviews done on a Marantz VP11S1 1080p DLP projector.

Displays professionally calibrated by Gregg Loewen of Lion AV.

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Originally Posted by PatWahlquist
Paul, the "bookcase" is very well put together. Imagine a hardback book that has a jewel case on the inside of the back cover. I had no issue with the presentation or quality factor of the design.

Pat, thanks for the description. That sounds much better than the 'sleeve solution' in the same location that I had envisioned.
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Just curious -- What was the tone of the History Channel doc? The real Bonnie & Clyde were class-A losers and psychos and the film, while a great piece of cinema, is also an incredible romanticization of its subjects.

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Just finished watching the this film on Blu-ray.

Certainly one of the greatest classic films ever made.
I never tire of watching this film every few years.

I have a question for Mr. Harris...

The entire scene where Bonnie reunites with her Mother seems
terribly out of place. The quality of the video gets very soft and
muddy. At first I thought this was done purposely to set a
particular mood. But in addition to the murky video, the audio
levels suffer as well. Very difficult to hear dialogue in the first
portion of that scene.

So, is this a matter of the filmmakers making a stylistic choice
or is there film damage here?
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I just wish that studios would present mono as high-fidelity. While many people may not here the difference, there are a few of us who would appreciate a lossless 1.0 mono option. What's the difference between one channel lossless and 5? Both should have the opportunity to be presented without distortion from the medium no matter how good or bad the source is.

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Can´t wait to get this. Another film that I´ve been "holding of" for several years now (I´ve waited for the new SE - or HD-version like this one), so it´s great to watch this again in 1080p.

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This release introduces Warner’s new “book format” disc cases. It’s basically, just that, a regular size disc package that is a hardcover book containing a 34 page booklet with information on the film and it reprints part of the original press kit. This is a great way to set apart these classic releases and I’m looking forward to more of these from Warner.

I really love the packaging for this release and I'm excited to learn that Warner will continue to release classic films in HD with this simple and classy case.

I had the chance to see this film projected on 35mm last year at the Arclight in Hollywood and I must say that the image found on this new Blu-Ray release rivals that presentation in many respects. Kudos once again to the best home video studio in the biz for another must have release!
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Nice review. I've been looking at the screen captures at dvdbeaver, and they make it appear that the contrast is too high, that the details in dark and bright areas are gone. Anyone notice this in watching the Blu-ray, or are the screen captures misleading?

I'm not allowed to post links yet (sorry about that--you need 10 posts to post links), but if you google "bonnie and clyde" plus dvdbeaver, you'll get the Blu-ray review link that has the screen captures. That review has a link to the dvdbeaver SD review as well, useful for comparison.

Notice, for example, the details in the tree trunks behind Bonnie in the fourth SD screen capture, and compare to the solid black trunks in the first Blu-ray capture. Also notice a bit of oversaturation in the bright parts of her blouse. Bad screen captures, or too much contrast in the Blu-ray image?
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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
I have a question for Mr. Harris...

The entire scene where Bonnie reunites with her Mother seems terribly out of place. The quality of the video gets very soft and muddy. At first I thought this was done purposely to set a particular mood. But in addition to the murky video, the audio levels suffer as well. Very difficult to hear dialogue in the first portion of that scene.

So, is this a matter of the filmmakers making a stylistic choice or is there film damage here?
I'm not Mr. Harris, but I will offer this quote from page 117 of the published screen play:
Quote:
EXTERIOR: SIDE OF A ROAD SAND TIP (DAY)

Very long shot of three or four cars parked on the side of a road in Texas. There are a lot of people gathered around, but the sound is an indistinct mixture of talk, laughter, etc. There follows a quick montage of cuts which isolate specific moments in the family reunion, thereby implying the entire tone of the proceedings. The sense of family pervades. Everything seems slightly muffled, hazy, dream-like.

MONTAGE BONNIE'S MOTHER
Bonnie's mother, an old woman.

MONTAGE BONNIE AND MOTHER
Her mother grabs her and hugs her and cries.

MONTAGE C.W.
C.W. is standing guard on a sand-dune, with a shot gun.

MONTAGE BONNIE AND SISTER
Bonnie's sister is standing beside a small boy. Bonnie kneels down beside him and holds the child's hand.
Then follows a shot-by-shot description of the dream-like montage filmed by Penn. The point of this scene is that Bonnie can't go home again. It's too late for family life. So Penn employs filters and post-production processing to create a feeling of disorientation. He changes the quality of light and sound so that the scene looks and feels slightly out of place in comparison to the hard image that precedes and follows it. He also tinkers with the audio so that voices linger a frame or two behind lip movement, and voices sound further away than they appear, as if these people are rapidly fading into Bonnie's past. Specialized shots and specialized lab work don't always survive in restorations, and just how well Penn's effects are maintained in this new edition remains to be seen. I thought the original DVD release handled it quite well.

After this montage, the film adopts a darker tone as it enters the third act.
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Gents,

I thank you for the thorough explanations.
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Originally Posted by Kent in Utah
Nice review. I've been looking at the screen captures at dvdbeaver, and they make it appear that the contrast is too high, that the details in dark and bright areas are gone. Anyone notice this in watching the Blu-ray, or are the screen captures misleading?

Kent, I believe that Gary actually takes pictures of his screen with a camera, just to give you an impression. HD discs always look better than Gary's shots, so don't worry!
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Thanks, Bleddyn. Gary has explained that he uses a digital camera and has a very hard time getting it to work as he would like, especially with his plasma monitor.
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This one will join my wish list.

Thanks for the fine review (and the additional info discussed subsequently).

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Count me in as someone who is a big fan of the packaging. Very classy. Nice to finally see an HD release step outside what has become the norm of just providing a basic case with no insert or accompanying reading material whatsoever. I haven't had a chance to watch my copy yet, but I can't wait. I have a feeling this will end up as one of the better releases of the year.
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