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"I'm told that many more catalog titles are in the works for possible release by the end of 2008, including such films as Walk the Line, the classic Batman: The Movie, The French Connection, Super Troopers, Fargo, the X-Men trilogy, the original Planet of the Apes, possibly Young Frankenstein and maybe even MGM musical titles, not to mention the expected new release films."
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I hope they come lowered in price.
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"I'm told that many more catalog titles are in the works for possible release by the end of 2008, including such films as Walk the Line, the classic Batman: The Movie, The French Connection, Super Troopers, Fargo, the X-Men trilogy, the original Planet of the Apes, possibly Young Frankenstein and maybe even MGM musical titles, not to mention the expected new release films."
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Mmmmmmmmmm Planet of the Apes!!!!!!
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That's what they're counting on, early adoptors will buy more than the average consumer which is why they charge the prices they do.
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I guess this thread eventually will be another "Fox price range"-discussion, but let me still say this: Good news that new titles are coming. Keep the good titles coming and I´ll buy them. But yes, not in "full price" if they´re "bare bones" or something..
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Well you can't blame people for complaining, their catalog prices do suck.
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Sure sure, but it´s just that perhaps we could have at least one thread where we could talk about the actual Fox-releases and films..
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Frankly, the constant bitching about Fox's prices has gotten beyond tiresome. Clearly people have forgotten laserdisc prices, not to mention DVD prices in its early days. As DVD became commonplace, the prices dropped. The same will happen with Blu-ray.
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That's too bad, but I'm going to speak out about their prices until they come down. It isn't about me, but for this format to grow, it needs to be more competitive in their pricing, plain and simple.
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Sure sure, but it´s just that perhaps we could have at least one thread where we could talk about the actual Fox-releases and films..
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Oh well, I give up..
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Oh well, I give up..
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Frankly, my negative comments about Fox/MGM catalog pricing is against my basic nature as a collector and film lover. You don't acquire a library of over 4000 discs worrying about pricing. However, I'm concern about this format becoming more than a niche market especially with the current state of the economy as it is, the only way it's going to make it beyond the HT enthusiasts like ourselves is for their product to be competitively priced and marketed in a way that catches on with the mass market. We're coming up to the two year anniversary and it would be nice that at that time, Fox goes beyond their recent price reductions on select titles and do the same with all catalog titles. If Fox's competitors can price their catalog titles more competitively, why can't Fox/MGM?
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Paul S. - There are clearly other titles in the works. I doubt Fox forgot about Alien.
Robert - I wholeheartedly agree with your (and everyone else's) complaint. However, I also see Jari's point. It would be nice to discuss Planet of the Apes (1968) and The French Connection for 2-3 posts in a row without the (rightful) price complaints.
That being said, count me in for Planet of the Apes, The French Connection, X-Men, X-Men 2, and maybe Walk the Line and Young Frankenstein.
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We're coming up to the two year anniversary and it would be nice that at that time, Fox goes beyond their recent price reductions on select titles and do the same with all catalog titles. If Fox's competitors can price their catalog titles more competitively, why can't Fox/MGM?
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Sure, I agree.
I have almost all Fox/MGM-titles that have interest me (many), but I´ll admit that most of them were bought from these Bogo-sales from the last Xmas-time (cheap as hell!
). But I´ve bought some titles in full price also.
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Paul S. - There are clearly other titles in the works. I doubt Fox forgot about Alien.
Robert - I wholeheartedly agree with your (and everyone else's) complaint. However, I also see Jari's point. It would be nice to discuss Planet of the Apes (1968) and The French Connection for 2-3 posts in a row without the (rightful) price complaints.
Thaat being said, count me in for Planet of the Apes, The French Connection, X-Men, X-Men 2, and maybe Walk the Line and Young Frankenstein.
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Nobody is preventing you from not discussing those titles.
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I guess this thread eventually will be another "Fox price range"-discussion, but let me still say this: Good news that new titles are coming. Keep the good titles coming and I´ll buy them. But yes, not in "full price" if they´re "bare bones" or something..
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I'll believe the good news when these titles are actually on the store shelves. Fox's track record of canceling announced titles doesn't instill confidence.
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Perhaps a specific sticky thread to discuss Fox (and other's) BD pricing would be a better way to make your points, and would also provide a convenient place for any studio representatives (especially Fox) that the HTF leadership could convince to come by for a quick reality check of HT enthusiast issues.
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Good idea. I mean this "Fox price"-issue will eventually kill all the Fox related-threads. E.g. with this topic, it was the 2nd post where the "price"-argument was raised (still not the record). After that, the thread will take the usual route (price-debate, Fox anger - even "Blu-ray is greedy and it sucks") and the people wanting to talk about those actual releases are long gone.
So perhaps we need that "BD pricing" thread?
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While I agree with your feelings wrt Fox pricing, I have to admit it's a tad disingenuous to continually post, in multiple threads, about your personal pet peeve, then tell fellow posters that you're going to continue this practice; while, as moderator, you publicly admonish other posters for doing the same thing.
Perhaps a specific sticky thread to discuss Fox (and other's) BD pricing would be a better way to make your points, and would also provide a convenient place for any studio representatives (especially Fox) that the HTF leadership could convince to come by for a quick reality check of HT enthusiast issues.
It's taken me 3 hours to word this post, as I want to remain positive about things, but I am concerned about the attitude, and wanted to make a public statement.
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Thank you for your comments, though, I disagree with your use of "disingenuous" in regard to my so-called pet peeve about Fox/MGM BR pricing. Unlike, cover artwork for example, this is an issue that affects us all to some degree not just Robert Crawford because the more you pay for Fox/MGM releases the less money you have to buy other releases. Fox already knows we have issues with their BR pricing. I personally asked Steve Feldstein about this issue and he basically refused to answer that question. Furthermore, this wasn't the first time Fox was asked about their pricing and their reply was that the "early adoptor will pay more for software". In a few months, it will be two full years into this format, when does it stop being early adoptors paying more for software with their catalog software becoming available at a price point that the mass market can find reasonable?
Perhaps, I am being overbearing with this issue, but I find it disconcerting that though people are concerned about Fox/MGM pricing, they rather not talk about it and instead just keep buying Fox/MGM software which does nothing, but encourages them to continue their pricing structure in regard to catalog releases. I will grant you that I have made my point in this thread so I will not broach this subject matter again here except in response to posts such as yours.
In closing, I've always tried to remain positive in regard to the studios and have defended them for years against attacks by others on various issues. Being negative is not usually part of my makeup as I always try to look for the positives in everything. I've supported this new format by having 3 Blu-ray players in my household with hopefully a 4th one in the next several months that will play all of the options offered with this video format. My BR collection is about to cross the 200 disc mark with the hope that Fox/MGM titles segment of my collection keeps growing too.
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Good idea. I mean this "Fox price"-issue will eventually kill all the Fox related-threads. E.g. with this topic, it was the 2nd post where the "price"-argument was raised (still not the record). After that, the thread will take the usual route (price-debate, Fox anger - even "Blu-ray is greedy and it sucks") and the people wanting to talk about those actual releases are long gone.
So perhaps we need that "BD pricing" thread?
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You keep saying you want to talk about these new releases. Why don't you practice what you preach?
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Why don't you practice what you preach?
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Ah, it´s "me" again. Perhaps it´s "you" every once in a while..
Films? Let´s put it in this way. If Fox keeps releasing great titles and is keeping the extras, I´ll keep buying them. Some in full price, and some from the next bogo-sales (or similar). From the sales I´ll also get those "bare bones"-titles (and keep the SD DVD) eventually.
There are some titles (e.g. original PotA, "Longest Day") that I´ll buy as soon as they´re released. E.g. "Longest Day" is a special film for me (I´ve seen those actual beaches and visited in Normandy for starters).
So it´s great that Fox is releasing Blu-ray-titles. I´m not happy with several of their releases (extras dropped and still the high price), but at least they´re releasing titles (it´s better than what Universal and Paramount are doing at the moment).
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Ah, it´s "me" again. Perhaps it´s "you" every once in a while..
Films? Let´s put it in this way. If Fox keeps releasing great titles and is keeping the extras, I´ll keep buying them. Some in full price, and some from the next bogo-sales (or similar). From the sales I´ll also get those "bare bones"-titles (and keep the SD DVD) eventually.
There are some titles (e.g. original PotA, "Longest Day") that I´ll buy as soon as they´re released. E.g. "Longest Day" is a special film for me (I´ve seen those actual beaches and visited in Normandy for starters).
So it´s great that Fox is releasing Blu-ray-titles. I´m not happy with several of their releases (extras dropped and still the high price), but at least they´re releasing titles (it´s better than what Universal and Paramount are doing at the moment).
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I would hope that Fox is releasing titles compared to what Universal and Paramount has done with BR, but due to the circumstances that's not really a fair comparison.
Anyhow, I will not deprive myself of my favorite Fox/MGM films due to this pricing issue. I am a firm believer in "not cutting off my noise to spite my face". Therefore, I will be buying "Patton", "The French Connection" and "Planet of the Apes" once they're released on BR because they've been among my favorite films ever since I watched them in a cinema more than 35 years ago. However, there are so many other titles I could've bought too.
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